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Great Tweet: You've Been Entertained By Drag Your Whole Life... (Original Post) GGoss Mar 2023 OP
My fav. Jethrine Bodine on Beverly Hillbillies. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #1
Love it. Funtatlaguy Mar 2023 #11
Uncle Milty!! Artcatt Mar 2023 #36
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2023 #2
I laughed and thought how appropriate this post is. I also thought that we've been entertained by SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #3
I've been to quite a few myself.... reACTIONary Mar 2023 #44
Robert Preston in Victor Victoria (1982) John1956PA Mar 2023 #4
One of my favorite movies. scarletlib Mar 2023 #6
Does THIS Work ??? GGoss Mar 2023 #26
Yes! Thanks for the directly-working link. John1956PA Mar 2023 #28
I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!! (n/t) MissMillie Mar 2023 #63
the ultimate!! Especially Shady Lady From Seville! A favorite for years yellowdogintexas Mar 2023 #72
It was a great pleasure for me to watch it when it first aired on TV in the 1980s. John1956PA Mar 2023 #74
Try bringing that up to a MAGAt. They will quickly tell you none of those characters Runningdawg Mar 2023 #5
Flip Wilson as Geraldine ybbor Mar 2023 #7
I used to love Flip Wilson when I was growing up! Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #13
One of the first comedians I was introduced to ybbor Mar 2023 #37
Oh, how I loved Geraldine! FM123 Mar 2023 #14
Her (am I allowed to say that? 😜) voice was spot on! ybbor Mar 2023 #39
Oh that voice, FM123 Mar 2023 #52
Do you remember his bit of Geraldine, the preacher's wife relating how the Devil made her buy a new CTyankee Mar 2023 #45
Some episodes I remember better than others FM123 Mar 2023 #53
Glad I scrolled down and saw this, I was about to find a Geraldine pic to post. The Polack MSgt Mar 2023 #78
It's the fucking conspiracy theory bullshit. Initech Mar 2023 #8
Did you happen to catch Terry Gross yesterday? Excellent interview on the subject. JudyM Mar 2023 #57
No but I will check that out! Initech Mar 2023 #70
I'd rather have a drag queen babysit my kids Metro135 Mar 2023 #9
On of my favorite priests... ybbor Mar 2023 #43
That middle part "Funeral for my Nana" doesn't seem to fit. What do you mean? Maraya1969 Mar 2023 #54
He said the mass ybbor Mar 2023 #55
Oh so he didn't really MARRY your sister he MARRIED your sister Maraya1969 Mar 2023 #56
So sorry that happened. shrike3 Mar 2023 #68
I saw a drag show recently with the seniors group. Most of us 70+. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #10
That sounds like a strip show, not a drag show. Ray Bruns Mar 2023 #12
No stripping. Just erotic costumes. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #24
Some of the videos... skypilot Mar 2023 #42
Well, there were no kids with our group of seniors on a bus trip. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #50
These examples were all straight men (OK, Bugs is a straight rabbit). maxsolomon Mar 2023 #15
' Bugs is a straight rabbit' speak easy Mar 2023 #59
Fair point. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #76
Exhibit 'G' speak easy Mar 2023 #77
I agree that it makes no sense for Republicans to get in a huff about this. But, as a woman, pnwmom Mar 2023 #16
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2023 #62
Agreed. Merlot Mar 2023 #79
I think that you can tell a lot about how a man. . . Collimator Mar 2023 #80
Barney Fife in drag overleft Mar 2023 #17
And he was terrific! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2023 #23
Barny JanLip Mar 2023 #29
Andy Griffith was one of my mother's all time favorite shows Rhiannon12866 Mar 2023 #31
Add Bob Hope and Milton Berle to the list. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #18
+1000 roamer65 Mar 2023 #58
"We're all born naked. Everything else is drag"--Ru Paul Warpy Mar 2023 #19
My favorite Shakespeare play is a comedy called... Whatthe_Firetruck Mar 2023 #51
Went to a drag show in New Orleans in 2016. Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #20
Tyler Perry BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #21
Those Bastards want to ban Benny Hill Wolf Frankula Mar 2023 #22
dont forget these ,,, AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #25
My absolute favorite! Butterflylady Mar 2023 #46
Jack Benny from way back.... Jade Fox Mar 2023 #27
"The Bridge on the River Kwai." Best Picture Oscar 1957. John1956PA Mar 2023 #30
And who can forget The Time is Now Mar 2023 #32
I"ve never really been attracted todrag as a genre personally - but soldierant Mar 2023 #33
Yep republianmushroom Mar 2023 #34
With tfg rubbing his face on him. rubbersole Mar 2023 #38
"Some Like It Hot" w/Marilyn Monroe. rubbersole Mar 2023 #35
One of my faves. A genuine classic. (nt) Paladin Mar 2023 #71
They've got to hate somebody... paleotn Mar 2023 #40
If You Want To See Drag... DET Mar 2023 #41
Are the outrage fire stokers running out of topics? Aussie105 Mar 2023 #47
The Kids in the Hall lame54 Mar 2023 #48
Thank you! I was looking through this whole thread for them to be mentioned. MotorCityBeard Mar 2023 #60
Speaking of Britain - Monty Python did lots of skits with one or more of them in drag. n/t thenelm1 Mar 2023 #64
Bazinga!!! Talitha Mar 2023 #49
It's the soapbox du jour. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2023 #61
Don't forget this one mikeysnot Mar 2023 #65
Oh That's Right !!! GGoss Mar 2023 #67
My favorite was The Bird Cage. Texin Mar 2023 #66
It's just another hypocrisy bandwagon. hay rick Mar 2023 #69
The whole thing is so hypocritical. halfulglas Mar 2023 #73
"To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything! Love, Julie Newmar" yellowdogintexas Mar 2023 #75
If conservatives didn't have *someone* to beat up on, they'd have no sense of identity at all. eppur_se_muova Mar 2023 #81

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
3. I laughed and thought how appropriate this post is. I also thought that we've been entertained by
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:38 PM
Mar 2023

republicans somewhat, being that they've always been a 'drag' on the rest of us. And by the way, I've been to probably hundreds of drag shows over 40 years or so, I've yet to see a show where there were children there. So again, republicans are beating the drums of doom over NOTHING. They are lying to us again w/ a non-issue.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
28. Yes! Thanks for the directly-working link.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:15 PM
Mar 2023

Mr. Preston had a great time with that role. At the end of the movie, when he was performing in stage in drag, his laughter seemed almost as if he was breaking character.

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
72. the ultimate!! Especially Shady Lady From Seville! A favorite for years
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:10 PM
Mar 2023

Victor, Victoria is on my permanent top movie list. It is pure perfection. The script, casting, physical comedy - everything is awesome.

I really hated that Preston did not get an Oscar but he was up against Lou Gosset and Charles Durning.

If you have never seen this movie, find it and watch it.

It is Blake Edwards' masterpiece.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
74. It was a great pleasure for me to watch it when it first aired on TV in the 1980s.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:19 PM
Mar 2023

James Garner and Julie Andrews had great chemistry going back to "The Americanization of Emily." Watching Robert Preston's character as the comedic inflection point was sheer joy. I think Mr. Preston was allowed to go off script and improvise. He seemed to be having a great time in performing.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
5. Try bringing that up to a MAGAt. They will quickly tell you none of those characters
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:44 PM
Mar 2023

were trying to molest their kids. Bring up the fact their preachers, teachers and boy scout leaders have that covered and watch them not give a damn.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
13. I used to love Flip Wilson when I was growing up!
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:32 PM
Mar 2023

Just so happens, I named the best dog I ever had after him.

ybbor

(1,749 posts)
37. One of the first comedians I was introduced to
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:40 PM
Mar 2023

His show was can’t miss. Geraldine was a special treat! Such a wonderful memory!

CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
45. Do you remember his bit of Geraldine, the preacher's wife relating how the Devil made her buy a new
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:55 PM
Mar 2023

dress?

"And then he pulled a gun!"

It never failed to make me laugh...

The Polack MSgt

(13,797 posts)
78. Glad I scrolled down and saw this, I was about to find a Geraldine pic to post.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 03:43 PM
Mar 2023

My dad's favorite show

Initech

(108,783 posts)
8. It's the fucking conspiracy theory bullshit.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:15 PM
Mar 2023

Conspiracy theorists are going to be the end of this country if we don't stop them.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
70. No but I will check that out!
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:03 PM
Mar 2023

Q Anon is some scary shit. It’s not something to be taken lightly. It’s a legitimate threat to the stability of this country.

Metro135

(403 posts)
9. I'd rather have a drag queen babysit my kids
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:18 PM
Mar 2023

than a priest. Odds are much better that the priest will be a pedophile, not the drag queen.

ybbor

(1,749 posts)
43. On of my favorite priests...
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:44 PM
Mar 2023

Married my sister, funeral for my Nana, abused one of my best friend’s brother for years!

Maraya1969

(23,497 posts)
54. That middle part "Funeral for my Nana" doesn't seem to fit. What do you mean?
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:10 AM
Mar 2023

I was sexually abused by a minister for about 3 years myself. I know so many of them are just creeps.

Maraya1969

(23,497 posts)
56. Oh so he didn't really MARRY your sister he MARRIED your sister
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:17 AM
Mar 2023

to someone else! I thought the guy was your brother in law!

Could not understand why you threw in your Nana's funeral

Oh damn I am dying here!

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
68. So sorry that happened.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:37 PM
Mar 2023


I have had five (so far) male acquaintances turn out to be predators. None were clergy. All were married. Four were fathers. I was shocked when each was arrested. You can't tell. They look like anybody else. The only thing they had in common was that they "loved kids" and spent a lot of time around them. It's gotten to the point where I get sick to my stomach if I hear that someone "loves kids."
 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
10. I saw a drag show recently with the seniors group. Most of us 70+.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:19 PM
Mar 2023

Gotta say, I didn't enjoy it all. I was expecting comedy and fashion, but the show was nothing but rigorous erotic dancing.

It wasn't sweet. It wasn't funny. It was not striptease, but was a kind of very physical, often gymnastic dancing, while people put dollars in the performers' skin-tight and glittery outfits.

Other people said they enjoyed the show. But no one seems to want to go back.

I have to say, I would not have enjoyed this show if it consisted of actual women, either.

So, if my experience is any indication of what a drag show is, it is very different than the scenes from the comedic movies and TV shown above. The only one acting seductively is Bugs Bunny!

There are a number of Bugs Bunny eps when he wears drag. My favorite Bugs episode of all time is "The Rabbit of Seville."

Elmer Fudd is singing that he wants to "eat a rabbit." So Bugs puts on drag, and dances while singing "What do you want with a rabbit? Can't you see that I'm much sweeter? I'm your little senorita."

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
24. No stripping. Just erotic costumes.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:56 PM
Mar 2023

Before the first act, they gave people a chance to acquire $1 bills. (For example, to cash in a $20.)

And as a dancer would pass a seat, people would put the dollars in the outfits.

Some of these dancers were doing these spread-eagled somersaults. Impressive, but not interesting.

Yes, similar to strip. But, the dancers stayed in their costumes.

This was the place ...

https://www.fladragshow.com/

skypilot

(9,128 posts)
42. Some of the videos...
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:43 PM
Mar 2023

...posted on the Twitter thread in the OP were eye-opening. Story time with a drag queen is one thing but what I saw in those videos was not appropriate for children and there WERE children in attendance.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
50. Well, there were no kids with our group of seniors on a bus trip.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:58 PM
Mar 2023

Many people were filming the performers. The lead person, who seemed to be a big man with a wig and very real-looking breasts, encouraged filming and photos.

All of the performers were muscular, super-fit men. Yet, some could also really pass as women.

It was a very hard-R-rated environment. But, not X-rated. Not for kids.

maxsolomon

(38,725 posts)
15. These examples were all straight men (OK, Bugs is a straight rabbit).
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:36 PM
Mar 2023

Homophobia is the difference.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
16. I agree that it makes no sense for Republicans to get in a huff about this. But, as a woman,
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:37 PM
Mar 2023

I never much enjoyed that type of humor.

When men acted in drag in those roles, it always felt to me like they were caricaturing women -- making fun of them. So, it just wasn't funny to me.

But everyone has their own sense of humor. Obviously the bans are ridiculous.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
80. I think that you can tell a lot about how a man. . .
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:52 PM
Mar 2023

. . . feels about women by the way they approach drag. With Monty Python, I sensed a kindness and respect there in their play acting as the opposite sex. Sure, they were poking fun, but they more often fully skewered certain male British types of personas.

Many, many decades ago, there was a player on Saturday Night Live who did female characters. I couldn't shake the sense that his dislike of women was channeled into his performance. I also got the feeling that this actor was Gay, and I do know that Gay men do not generally hate women and that a dislike of women is NOT why they are Gay.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
31. Andy Griffith was one of my mother's all time favorite shows
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:26 PM
Mar 2023

And I still watch it since it's still on quite frequently, it's always a welcome break from dealing with the news. Not to mention, we always watched Carol Burnett in my house, too!

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
19. "We're all born naked. Everything else is drag"--Ru Paul
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:42 PM
Mar 2023

Remember the drag show in "South Pacific?" That was in the squeaky clean 1950s.

All the female characters in Shakespeare's plays were performed by young guys in drag.

This is not a new thing.

Grow the ruck up, you bluenosed, right wing Christian assholes.

Whatthe_Firetruck

(610 posts)
51. My favorite Shakespeare play is a comedy called...
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 11:12 PM
Mar 2023

... As You Like It. The layers of drag in this one is surreal.

Where a young male actor (originally) would portray the female character Rosalind, who ran away with her 'female' friend (another boy actor) to the forest from some rotten nobles. Rosalind dressed as a boy to protect her friend, and found the trees adorned with terrible bits of verse extolling her as Rosalind. Curious, she tracked down the doggeral writer who was enamored of her from when he ran into her at court before she fled. She then convinces the young lover who does not recognize her, to woo her (well, 'him' ) as if 'he' was Rosalind in order to get pointers on upping his romance game.

So we have an actual boy, portraying a girl, who was dressed as a boy, and 'pretending' to be the girl.

I saw a PBS presentation of it filmed in outdoor locations, and loved it.

Eta: was probably the BBC 1978 TV version, but couldn't find it on youtube. I did find a colorized 1936 rendition.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
20. Went to a drag show in New Orleans in 2016.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:47 PM
Mar 2023

I was with my then girlfriend and my two really good friends (husband and wife) from Tampa. We ate and drank well wandering around the French Quarter (as I've done dozens of times in previous years). As our buzzes grew we were looking for something to do out of the ordinary, so to speak. Only about 40 feet away was a theater (bar) that had drag shows. We hemmed and hawed and then we all came to a consensus. What the fuck! Let's do it and see what it's all about. We all had a thoroughly great time. It was fantastic. Two of the dancers came to our table and thanked us for being enthusiastic (alcohol) as we were. It was my first dedicated drag show and we all had a great time.

I wasn't accosted, I wasn't hit on, I wasn't injured, I wasn't freaked out. It was a very good time. Everyone in the crowd was just as enthusiastic and enjoyed themselves too.

To me, they're just another segment of our fucked up society that's easily marginalized and exploited for political gain. Our country is really descending into a pathetic state.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
30. "The Bridge on the River Kwai." Best Picture Oscar 1957.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:21 PM
Mar 2023

The prisoners put on a drag show to celebrate their completion of construction of the bridge

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
33. I"ve never really been attracted todrag as a genre personally - but
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:29 PM
Mar 2023

I'm well aware it has meeb entertaining people literally for millennia. So that's probably a definiency of humor in me.

And I have almost always found Monty Python incredibly amusing.

republianmushroom

(22,325 posts)
34. Yep
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:30 PM
Mar 2023

and they grew up with them and probably allow their children to still watch them.

My favorite Rudy Giuliani.

DET

(2,499 posts)
41. If You Want To See Drag...
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:42 PM
Mar 2023

Just walk down Commercial Street in Provincetown. Here, there, and everywhere.

MotorCityBeard

(203 posts)
60. Thank you! I was looking through this whole thread for them to be mentioned.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:08 AM
Mar 2023

I've always loved The Kids in the Hall and their drag. I really don't think of it as drag, though. They really created some great female characters. Cathy with a C, Kathy with a K, Tammy, The Queen, etc.

Little Britain was another great comedy sketch show with some great female (drag) characters.

 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
67. Oh That's Right !!!
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:41 AM
Mar 2023
Long Lost Footage Shows Rudy Giuliani Dressed In Drag with Donald Trump



Thanks for the reminder !






halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
73. The whole thing is so hypocritical.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:16 PM
Mar 2023

Brings to mind the hypocrisy of their stand on trans people. Yet, their canonization of Ashli Babbit as a martyr for their cause. They don't really care if it's somebody trying to bring down the US Government for their cause.

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
75. "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything! Love, Julie Newmar"
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:46 PM
Mar 2023

One of the best! Watching those three guys is a true delight.

They all appeared to be having a blast playing those characters, too

I have been to 2 drag shows. One was a drag beauty contest at a Stonewall Democrats fundraiser. It was so much fun but not appropriate for kids due to language and some fairly suggestive moves. The gowns were great and everyone was having enormous fun,

The other was back in 1967 when I was in college. One of the fraternities put on a "She-Male" contest as a fundraiser. I can't imagine anyone doing this now, unless it was a true drag show putting on a themed performance. & yes I know the name is awful, but this was the middle 60s. It was hysterical, mostly because every one of the men ran it to the hilt- The guys really looked like they were channeling Flip Wilson. Their costumes were very inventive and they were all having fun with it. I can still see in my mind's eye one of our star basketball players decked out in a very preppy outfit (skirt, sweater, hose & heels. He was already 6'5&quot He won by the way. He went on to play a few years of pro and then was an executive at KFC

Who would have thought that little Methodist liberal arts college would allow such a thing!!! Statistically at least one of them could have been gay but this was after all the 1960s in Kentucky and it was rare to meet anyone who was out.

Anyone here ever attend a Womanless Wedding? These used to be very popular back in the 50s in rural areas - as fundraisers. Again the guys put on a crazy show, never realizing they could have been inadvertently shaming their own friends, relatives or children who were still in the closet.

eppur_se_muova

(41,939 posts)
81. If conservatives didn't have *someone* to beat up on, they'd have no sense of identity at all.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:48 PM
Mar 2023

They see themselves as better than all those "other" types. It defines who they are, or so they believe.

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