The Mysterious Woo-Anon 'Sisterhood' Tearing Families Apart

[Nevilledog]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-liana-shantis-lumerian-mystery-school

Jason and Jennifer Veras had been together since high school. “We were a loving family. We were a happy family. We barely had any issues throughout our 23 years in a relationship,” Jason said. “Until she brought Liana Shanti into our family.”

Everything changed soon after Jennifer started following a mysterious online guru who has built a following of women around the world, teaching them to cut ties with their “family cult” and to save their children from a ruling class of evil reptilian creatures who created the COVID “scamdemic”—a Luciferian plot to harvest innocent souls.

First, Jason said, Jennifer changed her diet—raw vegan and juice cleanses. Then she started spending hours every day meditating alone in the backyard and listening to her spiritual teacher’s audio classes.

Over the next few months, he claimed, Jennifer became increasingly paranoid and started espousing conspiracy theories. The COVID vaccine changes people’s DNA, she told him. And people who got the shot could shed the vaccine on others. She insisted they had to cut ties with anyone who had been vaccinated. Jason said she kept telling him they needed to leave California; soon the government would force every unvaccinated adult and child into concentration camps; they had to move to Florida where they would be safe.

At Jason's birthday dinner in May 2021, his mother shared that she'd been vaccinated. His wife was furious. Jason, 41, said Jennifer, 41, accused him of knowingly exposing their children to vaccine “shedding.”

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Two new words: Woo-Anon & Conspirituality

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

1. "they had to move to Florida where they would be safe." Will Florida become homeland for loons!

[thomski64]

3. ..well on their way..

..head in the clouds..

[Hortensis]

27. I think imagining FL somehow causes/is a place for this is delusional in itself

and that those prone to adopt fact-free notions that should not be attractive are more vulnerable to further progression toward delusional rabbit holes than they're aware of.

The woman in this narrative was obviously more vulnerable to radicalization than most, but she started at some other, far more "normal" point, maybe a mommy-and-me group where someone spread anti-vax horror stories or an online healthy cooking site, where visitors were targeted and provided links to the next steps toward this rabbit hole.

ANY social media site, btw, can start that progression. We've watched it happen here. Just for one example, DUers we once chatted normally with who fell to "Hillary Derangement Syndrome," and when it was no longer allowed here moved to one of the satellite sites that sprang up around DU. At that one, members who were prone progressed themselves from political radicalization to full-blown whackjob extremism. I remember discussion among people whose names I remembered (!) of whether Hillary threatened to kill Bernie's grandchildren if he didn't endorse her or if she had him kidnapped and beaten into submission.

[maxrandb]

13. Will become??? I think we're already there nt

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. Have been for a while now.

[obamanut2012]

16. Why do you think DeSantis won by so much???

It is why I just left.

[DavidDvorkin]

2. Why do people believe this crazy stuff?

That's what puzzles me.

[Sky Jewels]

4. It's amazing how many gullible, delusional people are out there.

Then again, tens of millions of Americans think an undead carpenter/magical being from the Judea of 2,000+ years ago is going to come back to Earth any year now.

[Hekate]

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[Sky Jewels]

7. "Bigoted"? If criticizing chosen belief systems makes one bigoted,

then you’re a bigot if you say anything negative about Republican tenets.

I’m so tired of people acting like religious beliefs are off limits to criticism just because they involve
supernaturalism and magic.

“Faith” is literally belief in the absence of evidence. To me it couldn’t be more obvious that it’s patriarchal nonsense and mythology. Christianity has poisoned this country in many ways, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

The resurrection fable is just as loony as the stuff this guru spews. However, it’s culturally accepted because it’s older and has served the purpose of controlling people for centuries.

[Celerity]

8. +1

[Easterncedar]

10. Yep

[obamanut2012]

17. I agree

[Conjuay]

20. Exactly

Consider how many lives have lost and how much blood has been shed because of this FANTASY.

I knew at six, when Sister Louise started in about a talking snake, that one of us was not dealing with reality.

It continues unchecked and - if anything- has grown into a mega church flim-flam.

It is part and parcel of the RW nonsense that is now a threat to our women, children, and non-binary folk.

[Ligyron]

34. Ya know what blows my mind?

It doesn't matter what religion we are talking about, in the beginning somebody had to make that shit up out of whole cloth.

Of course, they could plagiarize off an existing mythology like the Mormons or that other religion from the middle east that shall remain unnamed did, but still...

[edhopper]

11. Sounds rather rational to me

Then again, I don't think Bronze Age myths are reality.

[shrike3]

22. I know plenty of anti-theists.

And many of them are the worst Covid deniers I know. Also, racists, misogynists. Anti-LGBTQ. Anti-science. One of them tried to tell me that aliens were trying to shutdown nuclear power plants all over the country because a nuclear accident would disrupt the time-space continuum. (According to the theory) This is a person who says the same thing DUers say about religion. I don't get it. Maybe it's youtube. They see youtube videos and believe they're true. That's where the aliens/nukes theory came from.

[edhopper]

30. Yes atheist

can be idiots and assholes too. I don't know what ant antitheist is?

[shrike3]

31. anti the belief in God, if that makes sense.

Antitheism, also spelled anti-theism, is the philosophical position that theism should be opposed. The term has had a range of applications. In secular contexts, it typically refers to direct opposition to the belief in any deity.

The word antitheism (or hyphenated anti-theism) has been recorded in English since 1788.[3] The etymological roots of the word are the Greek anti and theos.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines antitheist as "One opposed to belief in the existence of a god". The earliest citation given for this meaning dates from 1833.

Hitchens called himself an anti-theist.

[edhopper]

32. Thanks

learn something new....

[shrike3]

21. People who feel exactly as you do about Christianity have told me that Covid is a conspiracy

by the U.S. government to control us/our DNA. IOW, they believe whacko stuff. A lot of them are in the so-called "natural medicine" community.

No one is immune. Even people as "enlightened" as yourself.

[Sky Jewels]

29. I don't pretend that every non-religious person is perfectly rational.

Like I said, there is a lot of delusion out there. Some of it is ingrained in the culture, like Christianity, and some is not.

[shrike3]

23. There are gullible, delusional anti-theists.

I've dealt with a lot of them.

[Silent3]

5. I should probably learn to have more sympathy for people like this...

...since apparently so many people are capable of falling for this kind of bullshit.

But damn, it's difficult. I'm mostly pissed and angry at what seems like willful stupidity to me, and the fucking arrogance it takes to believe you've tuned into special secret knowledge, and that everyone else around you who doesn't buy into the shit you're buying into is the problem.

[Easterncedar]

9. Well said

There is arrogance in the victims.

[edhopper]

12. Your sympathy should go to family, friends

and loved ones who are harmed by this crazy shit.

[John Ludi]

15. My area is a magnet

for faux-hippie, new age, "wellness community", The Secret-thumping narcissistic clowns and most of them have glommed onto QAnon and QAnon-adjacent madness like this like flies to rotting roadkill. People I used to be able to hold a conversation with (a surreal and completely non-linear conversation, but a conversation nevertheless) now think that people like me who voted for Biden eat babies...or some such puerile insanity. And it's only a short trip before these demented bliss-ninnies decide to do something about it. I'll be tidying up and selling my property before the next cold season...between them and all the sub-literate hick Trumpers I just can't deal with the area anymore.

[genxlib]

18. What area is that

Just curious

[John Ludi]

19. The Driftless area

of SW WI.

[shrike3]

24. Thank you. The new age "wellness" community seems particularly susceptible.

It's very strange. I know a lot of artists and creative types and more than a few have gotten into that. Wellness and conspiracy theories. The government wants to keep us sick. Very disappointment.

[Carlitos Brigante]

25. We live in a nation of grifters and marks. Unfortunately my MIL has decided she's a mark. nt

[Johnny2X2X]

26. I could totally see several friends falk for this

So many fall for this woo type stuff. I know people who legitimately base some of the biggest decisions in their life in things like Mercury being in retrograde, whatever that means.

[Wingus Dingus]

28. I just see this as latent mental illness, hiding under a veneer of

social normalcy and high functioning until some brain-worm finally triggers obvious mad behavior. I never buy the whole "my wife/husband/father was perfectly normal until Q or MAGA or Fox came along!" A strong and healthy mind doesn't suddenly believe in absolute illogical nonsense.

[dalton99a]

33. Their cult leader Liane Wilson:

https://midweekkauai.com/paina/wyland-restores-kapaa-mural/
https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/wngd0x/the_real_liana_shanti_or_should_we_say_liane/