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yonder

(10,227 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:33 PM Mar 2023

Welp, this pissed me off.

I called the bank yesterday to order more, rarely used personal checks. I intended to talk to a real person but after a few tries at their phone tree, was directed to the printers website and forced to do it online. *grumble* Then after a couple of attempts to navigate the site and being subsequently bumped out a notch or two (mostly my fault but more **grumbling**), I finally got to where I could select and order the checks. Yay.

I just wanted the cheapest, simple ones but decided to browse their style selections. I looked at a few and came across "Patriotic Themes". Okay, whadda they got? The usual slogans one might expect. God Bless America, America the Beautiful, America, Love it or Leave it, etc. Then I saw it: "Proud to be a Republican". Okay, where's the one for Democrats? Nada. Nope. They don't have one. What? So the check printing company is pretty much telling me a Democrat can't be patriotic and patriotism is exclusive to the GOP? Bullshit.

By this time I was really pissed. I went to order the checks but another software glitch prevented this Proud Democrat from assigning a number consecutive to my last check, instead defaulting to a #101. Add more coal to the fire. Not acceptable, and I'm about outta my mind with frustration and anger towards this print company. I bailed their site after leaving a shitty review and will take this "Patriotism" issue up with the bank on Monday - which may include closing my more-than-small accounts if the asshole printing company does not get pressured to add "Proud to be a Democrat" to their patriotic selection. I will be following up on any flowery promises they might make about fixing this by mail to both the bank and print company.

I realize that this is really small potatoes in the big picture of what's going on today. People are facing life-changing, mortal situations and decisions that far outweigh what can be put on a piece of paper. Hell, I probably won't choose this check style anyway. But that's not the point. I also realize it's not the bank's fault. In fact, former Idaho Governor John Evans, a Democrat, comes directly from the family who founded this bank. But this is how this insidious bullshit gets started. If I can make a small effort and change this printing company's idea of just who can be considered a patriot, I guess I'll call it a small win.

End O'Rant. Proud to be a Democrat

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Welp, this pissed me off. (Original Post) yonder Mar 2023 OP
Barry Goldwater - and even Ike - talked about "creeping socialism...m" albacore Mar 2023 #1
It is no longer creeping. It's starting to run. lastlib Mar 2023 #41
Firehouse of hate. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #47
You don't need to order through your bank SCantiGOP Mar 2023 #2
Good to know, thanks. As said, I don't use them much, 80 lasted several years yonder Mar 2023 #7
Proud to be a Democrat personal checks FakeNoose Mar 2023 #3
Oh my ... Delphinus Mar 2023 #35
Bradford Exchange is never cheap, soldierant Mar 2023 #53
That's an outrage. lambchopp59 Mar 2023 #4
group think NJCher Mar 2023 #12
Vista print. barbtries Mar 2023 #5
Go somewhere else dpibel Mar 2023 #6
Good for you! Wild blueberry Mar 2023 #8
I had no idea about other check providers till now. Thanks to all for the insight yonder Mar 2023 #9
I rarely write checks either... llmart Mar 2023 #10
It's not just checks Farmer-Rick Mar 2023 #11
they are quite dedicated NJCher Mar 2023 #13
No fight is insignificant. Stopping this fascist machine takes a thousand small brakes. Good on you! ancianita Mar 2023 #14
Thanks for the helpful attaboy. yonder Mar 2023 #18
My C.U. will print a sheet of 5 if I go into the branch vanamonde Mar 2023 #15
I'll keep the small option in mind if available because I might just run out. yonder Mar 2023 #19
I'll take a credit union over a bank anytime. Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 2023 #32
I use ... aggiesal Mar 2023 #16
I think this is the one I used to use, back in the 1990's. They used to run ads in Sunday supplement halfulglas Mar 2023 #17
I'll look into that one too. Thanks for the link yonder Mar 2023 #20
I've ordered from Bradford Exchange as well ... aggiesal Mar 2023 #21
We should all put a Biden sticker AND an American flag sticker on our cars. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #22
All I have now is my DU sticker SCantiGOP Mar 2023 #26
I know. I don't think the MAGAs understand what my current sticker means Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #27
Ice had a Biden/Harris sticker on my car since 2020, plus one that says "Democrat." ShazzieB Mar 2023 #49
Yes. I'm sick of them co-opting the concept of "patriot" to mean the opposite of Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #50
But adding this: you are right. It IS a small thing. But it IS a thing. And Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #23
OMG I don't blame you. I'd have been LIVID. GIVE 'EM HELL! CousinIT Mar 2023 #24
which company?, give us a name Shellback Squid Mar 2023 #25
Recently switched from a "bank" to a credit union. My checks are simply free checks. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #28
Link to where you can order Proud to Be a Democrat checks. Kaleva Mar 2023 #29
Is same deal with Sirius XM. Susan Calvin Mar 2023 #30
The bank I use has an option to order free checks mnhtnbb Mar 2023 #31
Glad to lend an ear!!!!! nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #33
Actually, I find it rather weird PatSeg Mar 2023 #34
+1000 Plain check, little information as possible, you are spot on. cayugafalls Mar 2023 #37
It appears to be a certain type PatSeg Mar 2023 #38
Agree. I just wanted a simple, no frills check for the same reasons. yonder Mar 2023 #43
Yes, there is a time and place for political statement, PatSeg Mar 2023 #45
This thread cilla4progress Mar 2023 #36
Perhaps they know that liberals are not the phony flag-waving patriots that Republicans are. Martin68 Mar 2023 #39
This type of thing enrages me XanaDUer2 Mar 2023 #40
There are few, if any, human customer service people left in the world. Samrob Mar 2023 #42
Dump the bank and join a credit union. diane in sf Mar 2023 #44
Mine are generic greblach Mar 2023 #46
Don't blame you. Sounds like my day with Walgreens. They suck BTW. Is the co. Harland Clarke? nt Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #48
MOVE homegirl Mar 2023 #51
me too YoshidaYui Mar 2023 #52
I use very few checks these days. Hard for me to keep straight. CTyankee Mar 2023 #54

albacore

(2,744 posts)
1. Barry Goldwater - and even Ike - talked about "creeping socialism...m"
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:36 PM
Mar 2023

What we have in this country is "creeping Fascism". It comes in small increments, but it never lets up.
Yours is a perfect example.

lastlib

(27,421 posts)
41. It is no longer creeping. It's starting to run.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:55 PM
Mar 2023

I truly believe it is approaching time to wage war on it.

SCantiGOP

(14,647 posts)
2. You don't need to order through your bank
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:53 PM
Mar 2023

There are hundreds of places you can get checks.
You can even order them through Costco if you have a membership.
Google “order personal checks” and you’ll get a lot of options.

yonder

(10,227 posts)
7. Good to know, thanks. As said, I don't use them much, 80 lasted several years
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:11 PM
Mar 2023

Both the bank and their print company will still be hearing from me and in a couple of different ways.

soldierant

(9,256 posts)
53. Bradford Exchange is never cheap,
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:38 PM
Mar 2023

but in my experience the quality is never cheap either.

Personally, I have pretty much left banks for a credit union - and almost never use checks.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
4. That's an outrage.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:57 PM
Mar 2023

So is some T shirt company called Kalesafe that keeps popping up ads: I wrote them some stinging feedback on their customer "contact us" about having a whole selection of loud "Trump" shirts but no counter-products. I don't get the idea of any business that alienates well over half of their customer base right up front like that.
But, at the same speed I'm certainly not going to patronize any retail business flying "MAGA" flags all over it either. I'm 10 more weeks on this Arizona contract, every small town out here has at least one idiotic storefront like that.

NJCher

(42,320 posts)
12. group think
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:35 PM
Mar 2023
every small town out here has at least one idiotic storefront like that.

I can't even imagine that, living in a blue town and blue county.

It would truly make me uncomfortable to be around that many unthinking cultists.

I think you need a



barbtries

(31,097 posts)
5. Vista print.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:04 PM
Mar 2023

if that's not the website you were on, give them a try. it's been a few years since i ordered checks since i write maybe one or two per year, but they're way cheaper than the bank and it's no hassle.

they probably don't have progressive, Democrat, or liberal checks because we tend to keep up with the times. lol

https://www.vistaprint.com/marketing-materials/checks/wallet?swsquery=checks&querycat=search_dropdown

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
6. Go somewhere else
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:07 PM
Mar 2023

There are plenty of places you can order checks. And they're all cheaper than buying them through your bank.

yonder

(10,227 posts)
9. I had no idea about other check providers till now. Thanks to all for the insight
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:19 PM
Mar 2023

I'm a bit out of the loop in some ways. It ain't going to keep me from raising a stink about my bank's choice of printers, though.

llmart

(17,302 posts)
10. I rarely write checks either...
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:32 PM
Mar 2023

but I ran out two months ago and ordered mine online from Wal-Mart (I never shop at Wal-Mart). Their prices for just a basic check were the best I could find.

Farmer-Rick

(12,408 posts)
11. It's not just checks
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:32 PM
Mar 2023

During X-mas shopping I noticed many places had GOP crappy sayings on t-shirts, mugs and even X-mas cards. But rarely were there liberal sayings. Creeping fascism is everywhere.

NJCher

(42,320 posts)
13. they are quite dedicated
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:45 PM
Mar 2023

to their goal of dividing America.

I wouldn't participate in it in any way. Not going to play their game.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
14. No fight is insignificant. Stopping this fascist machine takes a thousand small brakes. Good on you!
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:24 AM
Mar 2023

No such thing as small potatoes. We change things where we are as much as we can. Otherwise the insidious will kill us.

I hope you get pissed off as often as necessary.

vanamonde

(238 posts)
15. My C.U. will print a sheet of 5 if I go into the branch
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:45 AM
Mar 2023

They used to do it free though now it costs a nominal amount. I can generally get by with 10 checks a year, just a couple dollars.
You might check with your financial institution.

yonder

(10,227 posts)
19. I'll keep the small option in mind if available because I might just run out.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:41 AM
Mar 2023

My bank's current printer is now off the list (but not the shit list)

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,901 posts)
32. I'll take a credit union over a bank anytime.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:47 AM
Mar 2023

I've been with my current CU for over 25 years. I like that their fees and interest rates are generally lower than banks.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
17. I think this is the one I used to use, back in the 1990's. They used to run ads in Sunday supplement
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:23 AM
Mar 2023

When I realized how much ordering through my bank was a rip-off. I haven't ordered in years since I now do most of my bill paying online through my bank website, but I was shocked when my friend, who doesn't trust paying online, ordered more checks for herself through her bank and I almost fainted when I found out how much they cost now through her bank. I told her she doesn't have to do that and can order from anyone as long as she has the correct routing number and account number, but she doesn't want to change.

But I noted the Trump and MAGA stuff creeping into regular merch also. I guess they wanted to get in a little on the action of those popup places that hawk that gaudy crap.

yonder

(10,227 posts)
20. I'll look into that one too. Thanks for the link
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:52 AM
Mar 2023

Neither my wife or I were aware of a non-bank option till tonight and remarked how expensive they were. Gouging their accounts for the privilege of letting them use our funds as they see fit I guess.

I happen to like this bank, but they are going to get an earful.

aggiesal

(10,518 posts)
21. I've ordered from Bradford Exchange as well ...
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:10 AM
Mar 2023

but the check paper was thin and cheap.

The checks from checksunlimited.com are thicker and very sturdy.
They also have a large number of themes.
I picked the Warner Bros. with Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner & Sylvester the cat.

Good Luck

Scrivener7

(58,151 posts)
22. We should all put a Biden sticker AND an American flag sticker on our cars.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:17 AM
Mar 2023

Right now I have a Gadson Flag with the snake shaped like a uterus. When that wears off, my plan is to do the Biden and flag combo.

SCantiGOP

(14,647 posts)
26. All I have now is my DU sticker
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:38 AM
Mar 2023

My wife is afraid somebody might shoot at us on the road, but the sticker stays, to be replaced next year by a “(blank) 2024” once we have our candidate settled.

Scrivener7

(58,151 posts)
27. I know. I don't think the MAGAs understand what my current sticker means
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:43 AM
Mar 2023

because none of them knows what a uterus looks like.

But I was shocked at the number of "events" that happened when I had my "Biden/Harris 2020" sticker on.

People giving me the finger, people swerving in front of me on highways and slowing down to near stopping, people acting like my tire was flat and motioning me to the side of the road to tell me I was stupid for voting for him. And these all happened in Northeast states.

I'll put the sticker back on, with the flag, once our primary is over despite all that.

But I won't visit my relatives in red states.

ShazzieB

(22,153 posts)
49. Ice had a Biden/Harris sticker on my car since 2020, plus one that says "Democrat."
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 06:31 PM
Mar 2023

I like the idea of adding a flag sticker, to show we ARE patriots!

Scrivener7

(58,151 posts)
50. Yes. I'm sick of them co-opting the concept of "patriot" to mean the opposite of
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 06:35 PM
Mar 2023

patriot.

Scrivener7

(58,151 posts)
23. But adding this: you are right. It IS a small thing. But it IS a thing. And
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:19 AM
Mar 2023

your plan is the right thing to do. We need to call this nonsense out whenever we see it.

Tell us how it goes.

CousinIT

(12,161 posts)
24. OMG I don't blame you. I'd have been LIVID. GIVE 'EM HELL!
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:24 AM
Mar 2023

And while you're at it, inform the twits that you will NEVER order checks from them again, and that you will go with one of numerous other options to get your checks (like those suggested in this thread).

GIVE 'EM HELL!

mnhtnbb

(33,094 posts)
31. The bank I use has an option to order free checks
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:30 AM
Mar 2023

It (BB&T)recently merged with another bank (SunTrust) to become Truist. What a stupid name. Anyway, I moved, so when my small supply of checks ran out, I ordered new free ones with my new address.
Looked through the options for designer checks, none that are politically partisan, but they do have a gay pride check (Love is Love) and one that is Be The Change.

PatSeg

(51,975 posts)
34. Actually, I find it rather weird
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:59 AM
Mar 2023

to proclaim your political affiliation on your checks. Why would someone do that? I had no idea such checks even existed.

Being people use checks for various reasons, any personal information should be kept to the absolute minimum.

cayugafalls

(5,955 posts)
37. +1000 Plain check, little information as possible, you are spot on.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:00 PM
Mar 2023

Why use a check to virtue signal anyways.

PatSeg

(51,975 posts)
38. It appears to be a certain type
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:06 PM
Mar 2023

of mentality, people who go around blasting who and what they are for the whole world to see. They probably have huge Trump signs all over their yards as well.

yonder

(10,227 posts)
43. Agree. I just wanted a simple, no frills check for the same reasons.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:35 PM
Mar 2023

There's no reason to attract undesirable attention to oneself and why bumper stickers, clothing logos, etc. are a no go for me too. Especially in my very red state.

PatSeg

(51,975 posts)
45. Yes, there is a time and place for political statement,
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 04:31 PM
Mar 2023

but not on any kind of financial records. You don't know who will come in contact with that check and now they have your name, address, and account number.

Martin68

(26,942 posts)
39. Perhaps they know that liberals are not the phony flag-waving patriots that Republicans are.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:08 PM
Mar 2023

"Love it or Leave it" is not a liberal meme. God Bless America is a questionable concept in my opinion. I prefer, God Bless Everyone and Every Country. But that's just me, I guess.

XanaDUer2

(15,769 posts)
40. This type of thing enrages me
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:10 PM
Mar 2023

You should be able to call yuor bank and order checks . This is outsourcing everything. You cannot call a pizza place and place an order. Now it goes to another country and you have to enter your cc info.

You also cannot call and have check registers sent due to covid i was told go to the bank directly.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
42. There are few, if any, human customer service people left in the world.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:03 PM
Mar 2023

Try connecting with one at Comcast, Verizon, or almost any main communication center for utilities or Big Box stores.
You hit "0" for live agent and then get the message that volume is higher than usual call back later. Even the IRS that is so desperately in need of collecting your tax dollars won't answer the phones. I guess they just go on and garnish wages or place liens on your property. Same is true with State Tax agencies.

Where have all the jobs gone? Gone robots, every one.

diane in sf

(4,208 posts)
44. Dump the bank and join a credit union.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 04:22 PM
Mar 2023

I do deposits by phone and get cash with my debit card while shopping. Thus I avoid using teller machines which are crime magnets around here.

Evolve Dammit

(21,420 posts)
48. Don't blame you. Sounds like my day with Walgreens. They suck BTW. Is the co. Harland Clarke? nt
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 06:30 PM
Mar 2023

CTyankee

(67,738 posts)
54. I use very few checks these days. Hard for me to keep straight.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:58 PM
Mar 2023

I have plain old checks for the few I write.

Isn't automatic withdrawal for recurring payments of utilities and my one credit card enough?

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