"I am the sword of God!" . . . Expect violence, domestic terrorism!

[skip fox]

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When Trump says "I am your retribution," he's channeling Yahweh, God of the Old Testament.

But when god purportedly said "Vengeance is mine," he meant that his followers should not commit violence; he would take care of retribution.

But Christianity has been so perverted for the MAGA crowd, Trump's declaration that he is "retribution" gives license to his followers to commit acts of extreme violence.

("Let you, emulating me, may become the hand of the Lord!" = the hidden text.)

[FalloutShelter]

1. DJT is a maniac!

This is NOT a test. He must never get power again.
Democrats will need to put aside petty differences and mobilize like never before.

JMHO

[wnylib]

24. +1000

[vlyons]

2. Christianity, that is the established church, has always been perverted

Since Constantine the Great made Christianity the state religion, it has waged countless wars on pagans, labeled any deviation from their dogma as heretical, murdered and tortured people, grifted for money, stolen land.

But actually practicing what Jesus taught -- eh not so much. Go read the Sermon and the Mount and see for yourself that many who call themselves Christians are just hypocrites.

[sanatanadharma]

6. Curiously, in fighting heresy, the church defeated the Gnostics

Curiously, in fighting heresy, the church defeated the Gnostic point of view.

The Gnostic teaching said that God could be known; therefore orthodox Christianity is officially agnostic (opposed to Gnostic).

[vlyons]

8. It was more about control and power

Gnostics believed that one could have personnel knowledge of god without the intercession of a priest. You didn't need a priest to hear your confession and absolve you.

[True Blue American]

14. I do not know about Gnostics

But firmly believe each person has a direct line. No need for some one else to speak for me..

[ymetca]

33. In some of the Gnostic Gospels

Jesus the kid, pushes a playmate to his death from a roof. A crowd gathers, mortified, but Jesus just laughs and resurrects his friend from the dead!

In another story, Jesus secretly conspires with his half-brother Judas to sell him out. Seems rather heroic on Judas' part, doesn't it? To be reviled for all eternity for something his brother put him up to.

Heck, the Gnostic Origin Story depicts the Garden of Eden as a false paradise, created by the Devil, with the Serpent being the True God, leading them out of their befuddlement. Indeed, it was the Gnostics who interpreted the concept of sin as being merely ignorance of the Truth. That seems like a pretty insightful idea right there, and creates a sharper divide between the Old and New (so-called) Testaments.

And remember, the Gnostic Gospels in the Nag Hammadi Library predate anything the Vatican has let us know they have.

All these other "gospels" were deemed heretical by the early Church, and the Gnostics ruthlessly stamped out. Which is why these sacred papyri were hidden in a cave for over a millennia.

[wnylib]

27. It was about politics. That's why Constantine

decided on Christianity as the official religion of the Empire. The new religion had been spreading for a few centuries and he wanted a unified empire under one religious philosophy - one official form of it to unify the people. That's what happens when there are no lines drawn between religion and government.

In Roman times, there was no such thing as separating the two. Prior to Christisnity, Romans were expected to sacrifice to the gods on certain occasions for the good of the Empire, to keep the gods satisfied. It was civic duty and people who refused were punished. Punishing "heretics" after Christianity became the official religion was a continuation of attitudes from pre Christian times.

[vlyons]

31. Absolutely correct

Christianity is a Roman invention. Constantine called for the 1st Convention of Nicea in 325AD to formulate the dogma of the Christian Church. That was when the dogma of the Trinity was made official doctrine, and those who didn't accept it were labeled heretics.

[malaise]

32. THIS

Wish I could rec

[Mr. Ected]

3. When the criminals can outrun justice with a 4-year head start

It opens the door to ceaseless terrorist rhetoric protected as political speech and the potential demise of democracy.

I have no answers, just fear beyond anything I've feared before.

[calimary]

23. Indeed. Even worse when we have one high-level criminal

who’s evaded justice for all of his disgraceful, greedy, treacherous behavior, crimes, and deceit over a lifetime of 70+ years.

[live love laugh]

34. And for good reason...

[AZ8theist]

4. I don't disagree with your assessment of biblical bullshit....but...

Doturd is simply TOO FUCKING STUPID to knowingly make that connection.

He's a fucking moron, and unable to think beyond what he needs to do to fleece the rubes.

There's no depth of thought there. It's complete stupidity.

[skip fox]

10. The Old Testament appeals to morons. n/t

[True Blue American]

15. Absolutely right.

No depth at all. Not even skin deep.

[Traildogbob]

5. Flipped on

tV this AM and a Morning Mega Church was on. Before I could dive over the couch to the remote the preacher was talking about the loving God they should follow who build his kingdom on Love and Wisdom. With a straight face. Before I hit the floor with remote in hand, I started laughing like hell.
Love and Wisdom!!!! Like the second coming of trump. All love, all brains. And then the pastor had the money plate passed around.
Fools and their money.

[area51]

7. The nazi party has no use for the New Testament. n/t

[True Blue American]

16. Neither does Trump. Someone is writing his words

To keep the gravy train flowing. They are as ruthless as he is.

[2naSalit]

18. +1

Even his more coherent social media outbursts are written by someone else or they planted the ideas in his head.

[mountain grammy]

28. Exactly!

He's getting help and I'd bet many people who didn't listen to his cpac crap heard it from the pulpit on Sunday.

[Chainfire]

9. Trump's speech could have been written by Joseph Gobbles.

It was targeting a specific audience of his loyal cult who would have been experiencing orgasams of joy at his words. Trump is still recruiting and inspiring an "army," and he is doing it in full view of the world. Sales of assault rifles will probably spike next week. Now, the next question is what will DeSantis do to trump Trump's speech? There is no longer any pretense that Republicans believe that the voice of the people is relevant. Within their party there is a race to the bottom, and the rank and file either approve or are willing to turn their heads because the Republican Party is giving them license to hate again, and plenty of targets to focus on. Pick from the menu to suit your personal taste...

As a child of the 50s and 60s, it absolutely breaks my heart to see all of the social gains that were made from the 60 through the 80s are now being destroyed, state by state. MAGA will be the death of the nation.

The Justice Department has it, within their power, to put the breaks on the runaway Fascist train by simply doing the right thing, yet all we see is delay after delay. I believe that it is probably already too late to bring Trump to trial before, "for the good of the nation" the felony investigations and possible prosecutions against him will be suspended due to the impending elections. If Trump was indicted yesterday, with all of the likely delays, the case would not go to trial before the election witching hour. Trump may have already won the battle of the clock.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. Not disagreeing with one word. It is a call for violence in "code" like Michael Cohen outlined.

Many Christo-fascists already consider him "The Chosen One." He will capitalize on that with these biblical references. I am sure they are furnished to him by the Nazi's behind the scenes whether it's a Frankie Graham or Stevie Miller or I won't go to jail Bannon or whoever.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Insightful. . . . nt

[Initech]

12. I wouldn't put it above these lunatics to attempt mass murder.

While claiming they're committing their evil deeds "for the children".

[Evolve Dammit]

20. me neither. It's a call to arms in code. Death Eaters MTG, Boebert, DeSatan, Abbott, Bannon etc will

be pushing as well; some veiled, some brazenly open.

[Artcatt]

13. Xtianity: the official religion of:

angry idiots.

[dalton99a]

17. Trump lives for revenge.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. Even Melanoma stated that. It's who he is.

[cutroot]

22. These evangelicals are not followers of Jesus

They are simply using him to give themselves some sort of spiritual authority. Pharisees. We should be careful not to link them with the true followers of Jesus. A true Christian recognizes trump as evil immediately

[skip fox]

29. How sad it is for true Christians to be branded such.

I'm not one myself but I was one when much younger.

So I know ho they must feel, how they need to dissociate themselves from Maga OT crowd which must be even more runious in their eyes than the normal grifters (e.g., TV megachurch preachers with private jets), because the Maga types will effect their youth, either turning them off to Christianity or seducing them to the Maga-brand. (The normal grifters only steal their cash, though it may turn their youth, those who hate hypocrisy, away as well.

I sympathize.

[FoxNewsSucks]

25. Fucker should have been locked up awaiting trial.

Not out doing this and grifting.

[jaxexpat]

26. "....his followers to commit acts of extreme violence." Many of them would walk through fire to.....

enjoy committing those acts. Those who consider themselves society's outliers, the non-participants, would gladly use violence to let their fellow citizens know they're demanding recognition. Thinking that it's about time they got some "respect".

While we've been sitting back, watching this awful spectacle of the misguided unfold, perhaps a bit smugly, their confused frustrations and perceived petty slights have borne a resentment that many of them long to act upon. The ongoing prosecution of the insurrectionists does not deter them, probably because there has been too little prosecution and too late.

Therre's no likely use trying to count on the GOP to get a handle on this violence either. As they get their comeuppance and while conceding their long-term part in this debacle, I'm afraid we'll still all pay. Really, we already have.

[skip fox]

30. "Sometime you keep on paying and pain," as the man said.