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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:55 PM Mar 2023

The untold story of "Amerikadeutscher", Fred Trump and Donald Trump.

There are too many coincidences, similarities in this story for it to be untrue. This is a story that should be investigated in depth, a documentary be made, so the American people can be informed.

It is the story of an American organization ( the Bund Organization) created in 1933, based in New York City, that supported Hitler. Spread Hitlers propaganda. They took direct orders from Berlin. Built Nazi youth camps across America. Some leaders of Amerikadeutscher (The Bund Organization) would later be involved in espionage for the German Gestapo.

It is the story of an American named Fred Trump. A known racist, white supremacist, who was without doubt a supporter of the Bund.

It is the story of how Fred trump created the racist, fascist, monster, called Donald Trump.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1910/S00036/the-america-of-trumps-father.htm

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The untold story of "Amerikadeutscher", Fred Trump and Donald Trump. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Mar 2023 OP
Paging Ken Burns, please make this Documentary. sarcasmo Mar 2023 #1
That would be great. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit Mar 2023 #3
How many Americans don't know about the history of Trumps father? fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #4
History buffs Traildogbob Mar 2023 #14
Trudeau gave the rump a picture of his grandfather's Brothel he ran during the Yukon gold rush Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #15
bwahahaha. mopinko Mar 2023 #27
We didn't. It was covered here at the time, with much hilarity. niyad Mar 2023 #29
so sorry i missed it. mopinko Mar 2023 #30
You would have loved it! niyad Mar 2023 #31
Here is that thread.... from June 2018.... and Kayleigh McEnany tweeted about it IcyPeas Mar 2023 #34
d'ya suppose he ever got the joke? mopinko Mar 2023 #35
Very interesting. tanyev Mar 2023 #5
You got that right. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #7
Yes, that bit about Allied ships getting attacked after Fred volunteered to build barracks. tanyev Mar 2023 #10
We are fighting the same type of movement we faced in the 1930's. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #6
Saw a documentary snowybirdie Mar 2023 #8
I have seen pictures and videos of the Nazi youth camps built here in American. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #9
I'm going to have to look into cilla4progress Mar 2023 #22
I have a book about the thirties and they show a picture of a Nazi rally kimbutgar Mar 2023 #11
Fits right in with Rachel Maddow's Ultra podcast and what was iluvtennis Mar 2023 #12
Ty for sharing! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #16
Boebert sunyasi Mar 2023 #21
Even the German Kaiser knew better than to allow Trump's grandfather to return to Germany Pepsidog Mar 2023 #13
And traitors wear the TRAITOR PIN (AR-15 pin) State the Obvious Mar 2023 #17
The only book Donald Trump has read: LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #18
Lots of innuendo, but very little facts... TomWilm Mar 2023 #19
Unfortunately, the MAGA crowd would look upon Trump's Nazi ancestry as a positive. Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #20
Wayne Madsen, that name is a blast from the past Brother Buzz Mar 2023 #23
back in the day mopinko Mar 2023 #28
I stopped reading him before he imploded on DU Brother Buzz Mar 2023 #32
I'm almost certain the Mainstream Media will tell this story as part of their coverage of 2024 BadGimp Mar 2023 #24
Here are some pictures. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #25
It always puzzled me when I watched djt, on an afternoon program back in the 70s, say his allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #26
This post reminded me about this 1958 TV show: Trackdown Liberal In Texas Mar 2023 #33
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
4. How many Americans don't know about the history of Trumps father?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:19 PM
Mar 2023

One of the smartest things I did in my life was to become a history buff. If you don't know history, at some point you will be fooled, owned, by propaganda.

Traildogbob

(13,163 posts)
14. History buffs
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:09 PM
Mar 2023

Will one day have nothing to discuss. No one will know any of it. All of history redacted. Except maybe how we freed Iraq with our mighty military and its commander. And in the 2020’s freed the white man from all their burdens of the white race.

mopinko

(73,941 posts)
35. d'ya suppose he ever got the joke?
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:13 PM
Mar 2023

prolly been telling himself it was a legit hotel so long, he believes it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
7. You got that right.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:34 PM
Mar 2023

Is it possible that Trumps father was a spy for Nazi Germany? Trumps father was a no good rotten son of a bitch. If you noticed while reading the article. Trump and his father have some of the same behavioral patterns. Trumps father became a big supporter of Jewish organizations after the war broke out. Are you fucking kidding me. He was trying to cover his ass. Just like his son does. Trump will act like he supports the people he is trying to destroy.

tanyev

(49,685 posts)
10. Yes, that bit about Allied ships getting attacked after Fred volunteered to build barracks.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:22 PM
Mar 2023

Horrifying and completely believable. It would explain why Donny kept that book of Hitler’s speeches on his nightstand. I don’t believe for one second he ever really read them. But it could have been a memento of something his father and then he himself admired.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
6. We are fighting the same type of movement we faced in the 1930's.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:26 PM
Mar 2023

This time without a Hitler. Without a great depression and world war. We can and will defeat this movement without the blood shed of WWII.

snowybirdie

(6,750 posts)
8. Saw a documentary
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:38 PM
Mar 2023

the other day on Paramount Plus in a series called something like American Secrets. It was the story of American involvement in the late 30s. The Bund was a focus. I immediately thought of Fred Trump! He would be the perfect member.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. I have seen pictures and videos of the Nazi youth camps built here in American.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:55 PM
Mar 2023

There are pictures and videos of the infamous Bund rally held at Madison Square Garden in early 1939. I wonder if Trumps father was at that rally. I think Trumps father was a lot smarter than his son, just my opinion. Trump's father was better at concealing shit than his moron son.

kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
11. I have a book about the thirties and they show a picture of a Nazi rally
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:57 PM
Mar 2023

In San Francisco’s city hall. I got the book at a flea market and brought it for that picture. Couldn’t believe my hometown ever hosted a Nazi rally but there it was in the book!

iluvtennis

(21,527 posts)
12. Fits right in with Rachel Maddow's Ultra podcast and what was
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:59 PM
Mar 2023

happening in America wrt to Nazi support back in 1930s.

If you haven’t listened to the podcast, it’s highly recommended.

Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra
===================
Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the government. Insurrectionists criminally charged with plotting to end American democracy for good. Justice Department prosecutors under crushing political pressure. Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra is the all-but-forgotten true story of good, old-fashioned American extremism getting supercharged by proximity to power. When extremist elected officials get caught plotting against America with the violent ultra right, this is the story of the lengths they will go to… to cover their tracks.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra, also on Apple Podcasts, Sticher, Spotify, etc.

sunyasi

(37 posts)
21. Boebert
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:39 PM
Mar 2023

At CPAC Boebert said that she and MAGA wanted to be called Ultra MAGA from now on. Coinkydinky? ITN

Pepsidog

(6,366 posts)
13. Even the German Kaiser knew better than to allow Trump's grandfather to return to Germany
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:01 PM
Mar 2023

after having left for the Yukon. Trump is a traitor, and never hid the fact that he was all about himself. Trump has never expressed appreciation for living in America. Trump doesn’t have a patriotic bone in his body. He comes from a long line of blatant traitors.

TomWilm

(1,970 posts)
19. Lots of innuendo, but very little facts...
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:29 PM
Mar 2023

... and nothing solid to tie Trump’s father to the Amerikadeutscher Bund - though it is more than plausible. But the info about an “Old Man Trump” song by Woody Guthrie was new to me:

Lonestarblue

(13,561 posts)
20. Unfortunately, the MAGA crowd would look upon Trump's Nazi ancestry as a positive.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:31 PM
Mar 2023

The Republican Party has been going toward Nazism for years. I k ew Trump’s grandfather was born in Germany, but did not know it was Bavaria, the area for much of Hitler’s initial support.

Brother Buzz

(40,415 posts)
23. Wayne Madsen, that name is a blast from the past
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:59 PM
Mar 2023

Wayne Madsen drove so far into the weeds with his conspiracy theories that I lost interest in anything he writes.

Good article, questionable writer. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it.

BadGimp

(4,109 posts)
24. I'm almost certain the Mainstream Media will tell this story as part of their coverage of 2024
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 04:01 PM
Mar 2023

They will right?

allegorical oracle

(6,592 posts)
26. It always puzzled me when I watched djt, on an afternoon program back in the 70s, say his
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:21 PM
Mar 2023

family came from Sweden. I bought it because djt was nobody to me. He was lying way back then.

Liberal In Texas

(16,431 posts)
33. This post reminded me about this 1958 TV show: Trackdown
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:54 PM
Mar 2023

Episode titled "The End of the World"

I really think the con man (named Trump) was modeled after old man Trump. Using the name, it wasn't even subtle.
"I alone can fix it" and conning people into building a wall.

It has been posted many times here in the past, but in case you missed it or want a refresher:

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