This is some serious shit on Rachel

[malaise]

BananaReTHUGs voting to remove prosecutors in Georgia.

[FoxNewsSucks]

29. "no insider info" "must dot I's and T's"

And that group is quick to alert and censor any disagreement.

.....or is it

[LAS14]

2. Was Rachel on for you tonight? We got Chris Hayes (with a sub).

What's up?????

[royable]

13. That was in the hour prior to Rachel coming on.

Edit--at least what I heard on Sirius XM.

[LAS14]

24. Yeah, I think I looked at our recordings...

... about a minute before 9 p.m.

[2naSalit]

4. And while nobody's looking...

Same shit is going on in Montana. The legislature is only half done marauding the government for this term - 90 days biannually.

[gab13by13]

8. Pa. would have done it if Democrats had not won the majority.

[MontanaMama]

14. THIS.

I can’t even begin to speak to what’s happening in Montana. I’m afraid to open the paper in the morning.

[soldierant]

20. Not in Montana myself, but I have a general idea

and it's why the owners of Wonkette moved from there to Michigan. Up tp a point staying and fighting may be nobler, but when one gets to a certain level of outnumbered, anyone who feels the need to move has my sympathy.

[2naSalit]

33. I don't get the paper anymore...

Too stressful. But I do hear the report on the legislature on the NPR station, both station collaborate and file the same report. They do a good job of covering what's happening. But it still pisses me off.

So I try to limit my exposure.

[malaise]

52. Don't forget deFascist in Florida

https://www.axios.com/2023/01/21/ron-desantis-first-amendment-andrew-warren-ruling

[2naSalit]

61. Everybody knows about that...

But nobody is paying attention to the Montana magat peachtree dish of oppression.

[malaise]

62. Very important

I agree

[ratchiweenie]

65. Agreed. If they don't like what the voters passed, they just change it.

We really need to get rid of these Crooks running Montana now. Grifters every one.

[2naSalit]

66. I know...

And now my House rep is that fucking ryan zinke. I loathe that guy.

[ratchiweenie]

74. Mine too and he is a total snake and a crook. Must be ousted next time.

[2naSalit]

75. I'm wondering what happened to...

All those investigations into his criminal activities. I'd like to see him indicted for his role in the whole criminal enterprise of maga.

[ratchiweenie]

78. Yes, they just seemed to fade away. Guess the Trump admin managed to

cover it all up.

[milestogo]

5. The fucking Republicans are dismantling the judicial system in Georgia.

[onecaliberal]

6. Let's keep waiting. It's working out so well for us.

[FoxNewsSucks]

26. Yep. Patience.

I'm so sick of it. Makes me wonder who here is on whose payroll sometimes.

[Lucky Luciano]

27. Well ya know it's gotta be airtight.

[LymphocyteLover]

46. as opposed to what?

[onecaliberal]

49. Really? 🤦🏼‍♀️

[LymphocyteLover]

69. Yes. What are you going to do? Protest? Write/call the DOJ?

Give up on Biden?

[onecaliberal]

70. I've done all of those things and am a huge Biden supporter.

Expecting government agencies charged with investigating criminals to do their jobs. I’ve had about enough of the smears from the peanut gallery.

[triron]

71. You're right. Too much crossing the and dotting i's.

[LymphocyteLover]

82. Yes, I'm not doubting any of that.

I'm just saying what else can we really do?

[gab13by13]

7. Hey,

I posted about this today in one of those Don't Worry, Be Happy Threads. I posted about the Georgia Senate having passed this last Thursday, now the House Assembly has passed it.

I got no hits on this because I have been called a doom and gloomer,

Don't Worry, Be Happy, Indictments are imminent in Georgia except pretty soon one of the people who is a target is going to be able to fire Fani Willis.

I have been leery to post this but I think now is the time, I believe that saying that everything is going according to plan, that DOJ and state prosecutors are getting ready to indict Trump is a right wing authoritarian talking point to keep people quiet.

Our democracy is on the brink and it's about time that more Americans realize this.

[Irish_Dem]

10. +1

[SledDriver]

12. I am always skeptical of the "justice is coming" cheerleaders

[MontanaMama]

16. +1

The rethuglicans will work their way through GA, MI, PA, WI and AZ with garbage like this. They’re not done by a long shot. Doom and gloom is warranted. We’re seriously out of time.

[rso]

23. Rethuglicans

Except that all those States (except Georgia), have democratic governors who have veto powers over the legislature.

[inthewind21]

76. We were

Seriously out of time 20 years ago when it was broadcast, loudly and often, that republican goals were to take over state houses and stack the federal courts. The barn door is wide open, and the horses are bolting. Gonna be quite the task to shut the door AFTER the fact.

[lees1975]

19. Well said.

[triron]

21. Fantastic insight! Sorry I, for one, missed it.

[Orrex]

22. How dare you question The System!

The System is infallible! The System is wise! The System works 100% of the time in every case regardless of ethnicity or income bracket.

How dare you imply that The System is favoring, for the umpteenth time, the corrupt and the wealthy and the powerful!


I hope that a gaggle of cheerleaders swoop in to scold you for your impudence!

[Silent3]

42. And somehow, someway you're saying something bad about Biden!

'Cause if you trusted Biden you'd expect him to magically fix everything!

[Orrex]

47. Right?

And I'm particularly irritated that he hasn't personally briefed me on the latest goings-on. The nerve of that man!

[Silent3]

48. No! You have no right to be irritated with Biden...

...if you haven't been privy to ALL inside knowledge about what Biden has been doing! And even if you say you aren't irritated at Biden himself, if you don't put on your null-hypothesis rose-colored glasses like a good Democrat, you're being a big disrespectful meanie to Biden!

[onecaliberal]

84. 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[FoxNewsSucks]

28. Makes me wonder who here is on whose payroll.

We're about to lose to fascism, and are still being told "be patient".

[area51]

45. +1 n/t

[malaise]

54. Didn't see it

Add a link here please

[treestar]

59. it will never pass constitutional muster

it's a pain to have to deal with it, but there's no way it would hold up.

[AlexSFCA]

9. that's clever in the most evil way possible

but clever if it’s legal.

[gab13by13]

11. Georgia has laws right now that

set forth the procedure to fire or impeach corrupt prosecutors. The Magat legislators were careful not to mention Fani's name, they mentioned 2 other prosecutors for their reason for passing this law.

[onenote]

80. The earliest a complaint could be filed under the Georgia law is April 2024

That's the House version. Under the Georgia senate version the earliest a complaint can be filed is July 1, 2024.

[moondust]

15. Other states will follow.

Using GA as a model. It's what they do. Corruption gone wild.

[onenote]

81. Georgia actually is following other states, including New York.

https://www.budget.ny.gov/pubs/archive/fy24/ex/agencies/appropdata/ProsecutorialConductCommissionon.html

See also post #79

[gab13by13]

17. The DA is elected, Fani is up for reelection in 2024,

If they fire her what will happen? Will the deputy DA take over until the election or will the Magat legislators appoint someone or will there be a special election?

[Marius25]

18. Yup, fascism has completely taken over America

[Traildogbob]

25. Trump is pushing hard for this

For anyone thinking trump could “only do so much harm”, checks and balances”, and he would be better than Hillary……just fuck you! Look at our actions vs Israel. The damn country is in the streets and the military is stopping training in protest for their far right dictator shitting on their judicial system. Remember he was indicted yet still re-elected. We had better wake the fuck up, much more than the current woke.
The black hole of the GQP is sucking the life out of this country.

[gab13by13]

32. I'm with you,

and the people who call Trump stupid gives me chills. Yeah, he wouldn't get one question right on Jeopardy but he can destroy our democratic institutions and we are supposed to believe, Don't Worry Be Happy because he is stupid. The insurrection never ended on J/6/ 2021.

[wnylib]

36. Can the feds take over this investigation and indict Trump?

Individual states have their own election laws. But is there a federal law that could apply to what Trump did in Georgia?

Attempted extortion of Raffensperger? Abuse of power?

[gab13by13]

37. A long time ago I suggested that DOJ run a parallel investigation

with Fani, and all I got was criticism.

Yes, DOJ can prosecute Trump for what he did in Georgia.

[wnylib]

39. Then Fan I can turn over her records to SC Smith.

BTW, I started a separate thread on this question to get feedback from legal experts on DU.

[Traildogbob]

38. I do not know

And in todays America, trump could still be appointed President and Pardon himself. All the battles fought for this country’s survival and one fat assed, illiterate, rapist, lying, criminal is about to take us down. Our response is pathetic compared to the lives lost throughout our history. The justice system has failed us because of their fear to prosecute.

[Silent3]

44. Theoretically, but theoretically the feds could do lots of stuff...

...that they haven't been motivated to do quickly, if at all.

They could have gone after Trump for the same campaign finance violations that put Michael Cohen in jail, from Day 1 that Garland was in charge, but they let the federal statute of limitations run out on that, so now that's up to NY State to handle.

[gab13by13]

30. Get this,

the Ga. Lt. Governor is one of Fani's targets for prosecution and he is one of the people who gets to pick the new commission that fires DAs. What a blatant conflict of interest, but I won't be surprised if they get away with this.

[malaise]

51. Yep

What was amazing is how well she linked the Georgia BananaReTHUG plan to what’s going on in Israel, Hungary, Russia, etc.
I got up early to watch this again.

[live love laugh]

34. Just like they did in Mississippi ... "redistricting" and creating a new court district that

eliminated elected judges and court officials in Jackson, the capitol.

[spanone]

35. This is a fucking war on reality.

[malaise]

56. This is Fascism

Their coup,is ongoing - time for action.

[wnylib]

40. Israelis are taking to the streets over an issue like this with

Netanyahu.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICANS???

Wht don't we do the same here?

[triron]

41. Complacency, stupidity, and ignorance

[wnylib]

43. Well, then, isn't it up to us Dems to get the ball rolling?

We know that MAGAs will not do it. But if we get started on this, Idependents and anti Trump Republicans will follow. Not all of them, but, between the ones who f9 stand up and us, we could put pressure on MAGAs, let them know that we will not stand by and watch our legal system destroyed.

Besides protests, we could do walkouts, work stoppages, whatever it takes.

[inthewind21]

77. Exactly

This has been coming for quite a while. Republicans played the long game while the country rocked on thinking "this will never happen here" "this is already settled law" I just can't relate to candidate X or candidate x doesn't represent me. Here's a good read on how republicans raided the hen houses in full public view.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/republican-state-legislatures-changes/619086/

"Several other factors may be encouraging the red states’ right turn. Anderson, of Heritage Action, noted that state and local governments’ rules and restrictions during COVID-19 shutdowns prompted many conservative activists to conclude “that local and state politics probably impact their day-to-day more than even federal” policy does. Others I spoke with pointed out that conservatives are more confident that aggressive state-level social policies will withstand judicial challenges now that Republicans have solidified their 6–3 Supreme Court majority; the most restrictive abortion bills passed this year, for instance, would require the Court to roll back the nationwide right to abortion established in Roe v. Wade, as conservatives hope it will in a case involving a 15-week ban approved earlier in Mississippi. Groups such as Heritage Action and the American Legislative Exchange Council are also stepping up efforts to encourage Republican-controlled states to pursue a common conservative agenda; Heritage Action, for instance, published principles for election-law changes that Anderson has claimed helped guide..."

[malaise]

55. THIS n/t

[Grasswire2]

72. well, I am afraid to even suggest a mild protest with pots and pans and metal spoons

I might be considered impatient.

[Rhiannon12866]

50. Here's the video for those who missed it:

With Trump in legal trouble, Georgia GOP targets prosecutors - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017810651

Rachel Maddow looks at a new measure Georgia Republicans are pushing through the legislature that would give them the ability to remove elected prosecutors they don't like, and notes the glaring conflict of potential charges pending against Donald Trump in Fulton County as the bill advances. - Aired on 03/06/2023.

[malaise]

53. Thanks - Repeat just started

This is must watch

[Emile]

57. Pretty much a done deal too.

[fightforfreedom]

58. Lets always think worst case scenario for everything, It will make us feel so good.

[Grasswire2]

73. I like to live by the Boy Scout rule.

ALWAYS BE PREPARED.

And BEING PREPARED means BEING INFORMED.

That has served me very well over the years. Might even go on my grave stone.

ALWAYS BE PREPARED.

[treestar]

60. Republicans are children, making things personal

so they fire a prosecutor, then the next one can do the same thing.

Plus they are sure that the Democrats would never be in power to be able to do the same?

There's no way this law is constitutional. It's like saying outright that they think if you are high enough in government, or have influential friends, you can't be prosecuted.

[malaise]

64. No they are fascists looking for ways to escape consequences for

their crimes

[Emile]

63. Thank you Rachel for sharing your voice of reason.

[snowybirdie]

67. No one mentioned

the Tampa FL Prosecutor that was removed by the Governor after he signed a letter against the SC abortion ruling. Even though this man was a duly elected official. Last heard a federal court threw out the lawsuit against this action. In Florida, this is already happening.

[malaise]

68. See #52

[onenote]

79. These kinds of prosecutorial oversight laws are becoming more common

And not just in red states. New York enacted one a couple of years ago.

https://www.budget.ny.gov/pubs/archive/fy24/ex/agencies/appropdata/ProsecutorialConductCommissionon.html

http://cardozolawreview.com/the-new-york-prosecutorial-conduct-commission-and-the-dawn-of-a-new-era-of-reform-for-prosecutors/

[Kennah]

83. We live in the Age of the Strongman