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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Tennessee House Just Passed a Bill Completely Gutting Marriage Equality (of any sort)
It's been passed to the state Senate. But that it made it this far...
"The bill could allow county clerks to deny marriage licenses to same-sex, interfaith, or interracial couples in Tennessee. The Tennessee House of Representatives has passed a bill that would allow people to refuse to perform a marriage if they disagree with it.
According to the bill, which passed Monday night, a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the persons conscience or religious beliefs.
https://newrepublic.com/post/171025/tennessee-house-bill-gutting-marriage-equality
Didn't U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning already decide that a court clerk named Kim Davis couldn't deny marriage licenses based on her personal opinion of the couple? [1]
And sure, this ignores that last December, President Joe Biden signed the Respect for Marriage Act, but the new law in Tennessee takes advantage of religiously affiliated organizations long refusal to issue licenses for same-sex marriages. Is this the case or type of case that will give the conservative US Supreme Court exactly what they were asking for in Thomas's dissent in Dobbs, regarding also overturning marriage equality? [2]
[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/03/19/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-violated-rights-judge/7104110001/
[2] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/thomas-constitutional-rights-00042256
Karadeniz
(24,763 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,990 posts)TN is joining the FL and TX insanity.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)Like if you can't deal with the sight of blood, you don't become a surgeon.
Girard442
(6,918 posts)mobeau69
(12,465 posts)MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)Sheeeet man, hell I'm thinking about setting her up with my brother, he's only 47..."
May reason rule.
tavernier
(14,511 posts)You have to be white baptists, male and female, and both must claim to be straight. No age restrictions.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)"Wyoming Limiting Child Marriage Sparks Republican Outrage" - Feb 10th, 2023 Newsweek story headline
"Is age of consent on the Republican chopping block?" - July 19th 2022 Boston Globe story headline
"Republicans in Louisiana reject measure setting minimum age for marriage" - June 3rd 2019 Independent story headline
"Tennessee Republicans Push a Bill That Would Circumvent Marriage Age Limits" - April 22, 2022 Truthout story headline
"N.H. House kills bill that would raise minimum marriage age" - March 9, 2017 Concord Monitor story headline
And of course this gem:
"The governor of New Jersey declined to sign a measure into law on Thursday that would have made the U.S. state the first to ban child marriage without exception. Republican Chris Christie, a supporter of President Donald Trump, said such a ban would conflict with religious customs."
By the way, that's just the first page of Google news hits. There are many more...
Response to NullTuples (Original post)
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mobeau69
(12,465 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,649 posts)sue for relief from taxation, since they wouldn't be wouldn't have access to all the benefits/rights of the "chosen" taxpayers.
My belief is that if a person pays taxes, that person should be entitled to all of a society's benefits.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)break it to you but, you already spend plenty. It's called taxes.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)If I were to move there, I'd have helped fund my own misery. As it is, I have to live with knowing I am funding the misery of LGBTQ people who are stuck there.
Takket
(23,804 posts)SCOTUS has ruled. This bill is illegal.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)Then further aiding and abetting through the tax code, FFS.
canetoad
(21,032 posts)a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the persons conscience or religious beliefs.
It has little to do with furnishing a marriage license, which is an administrative task. It seems to be aimed at those who actually perform the ceremony - the person who does the solemnizing.
edhopper
(37,525 posts)that will support same sex marriage
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)May reason rule!
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)Tennessee law does not now require anyone to conduct any marriage they dont want to. But Fritts, the House bill sponsor, told the Children and Family Affairs Subcommittee Tuesday that a big reason he brought the bill was to help block elder abuse.
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This does not require a "closely held religious belief", plain prejudice will do.
Waiting for an Atheist, Agnostic, Sub Genius, or Satanic Temple clerk to refuse to certify "religious" based marriages...
Time takes time, and as always, stupid is as stupid does.
May reason rule!
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)...in most counties.
Even here in California, there can be...familial and religious dynasties when it comes to who gets hired in some of our small, red counties.
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)There might be one or more well connected individuals with enough pull to achieve that in a "red state".
Not going to hold my breath in anticipation though...
Nonetheless, I'd dearly love to see someone pull that off!
Time will tell, it always
does.
spanone
(142,064 posts)THIS IS REVENGE POLITICS ON FULL DISPLAY.
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