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exboyfil

(17,894 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 07:04 PM Mar 2023

Maryland bill would take Murder 1 off the table for those under 25 in certain situations

This is creating a bit of a firestorm in conservative circles. I happen to agree with them that this seems like a bad idea. The following bill would prevent a Murder 1 conviction if someone under 25 commits the murder in the commission of another crime like carjacking. This effectively reduces the maximum sentence from life to 40 years (Murder 2). The justification is that murder convictions disproportionately impact African Americans in Maryland when compared to the population and that younger minds have less ability to comprehend the results of their actions.

On the flip side the victims are far more likely to also be African American. I think this type of bill just devalues their lives. I want maximum deterrents in place for violent crimes like robbery and car jacking - shouldn't everyone?

From a purely political standpoint, does this type of bill help to garner additional votes or lose votes? The sponsor is a Maryland state Democrat Representative.


"Providing that a person who was under the age of 25 years at the time of the offense may not be found to have committed murder in the first degree if the charge is based on a murder committed in the perpetration or attempt to perpetrate a certain felony."




https://trackbill.com/bill/maryland-house-bill-1180-criminal-law-youth-accountability-and-safety-act/2363371/

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Maryland bill would take Murder 1 off the table for those under 25 in certain situations (Original Post) exboyfil Mar 2023 OP
Let's get at the root of the matter unweird Mar 2023 #1
What factors cause someone to commit murder to steal a car? MichMan Mar 2023 #3
Perhaps their personal experience has never demonstrated respect for their life unweird Mar 2023 #5
One could say the same for any murderers MichMan Mar 2023 #6
Even more reason to provide better nurturing unweird Mar 2023 #7
Bad idea. Really bad idea. LoisB Mar 2023 #2
If people under 25 don't have the mental acumen to comprehend their actions.... MichMan Mar 2023 #4
Works for me. It's a start. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #8

unweird

(2,696 posts)
1. Let's get at the root of the matter
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 07:25 PM
Mar 2023
I want maximum deterrents in place for violent crimes like robbery and car jacking - shouldn't everyone?


Let’s get to the root and expend efforts to eliminate the factors contributing to these crimes. Deterrence doesn’t work to prevent the crimes in the first place. I would rather invest in prevention than in maintaining or expanding reactive revenge in the name of punishment.

My two cents

MichMan

(12,234 posts)
3. What factors cause someone to commit murder to steal a car?
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 08:33 PM
Mar 2023

Other than a depraved indifference to life ?

unweird

(2,696 posts)
5. Perhaps their personal experience has never demonstrated respect for their life
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 10:41 PM
Mar 2023

Not having been accorded respect for their life it would be hard to spontaneously demonstrate respect for others.

MichMan

(12,234 posts)
6. One could say the same for any murderers
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 10:50 AM
Mar 2023

Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, 9/11 terrorists, McVeigh, Hitler, or Stalin all had personal experiences that caused them to do what they did.

MichMan

(12,234 posts)
4. If people under 25 don't have the mental acumen to comprehend their actions....
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 08:37 PM
Mar 2023

Should they be allowed to drink at 21 or vote at 18, then ?

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