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a Texas mother left her kids (age 12 and 3) home alone for 7 weeks.
Police and U.S. Marshals launched an investigation into Raven Yates that resulted in her arrest at an apartment complex in Mobile on Wednesday, March 8.
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Yates is alleged to have left her daughter and son, aged 12 and 3, respectively, at her home in Houston from September 8, 2022, until both were discovered by the older child's father on November 14.
A release shared by the Roman Forest Police Department on Wednesday stated the children couldn't get food for a lot of that time.
It added: "The concerned father reported to the Roman Forest Police that his 12-year-old daughter has been home alone with her 3-year-old brother since September 28, 2022, much of the time without access to food or medical supplies.
"The father immediately flew in from California where he had been working at the time. The father had been informed that his child's mother had been seen in Mobile, Alabama, without her children and realized they were home alone because he had been asked by his daughter to send food regularly."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mom-accused-of-leaving-kids-alone-for-7-weeks-flashes-smile-during-arrest/ar-AA18oM6V
The family realized the children had been left alone when the mother was seen in another state without her children.
Police did their investigation, and then on Dec. 8, 2022, they obtained an arrest warrant against Yates.
“US Marshals Gulf Coast Violent Offender Fugitive Task Force followed a tip to an apartment complex in Mobile Alabama the apartment manager confirmed Yates was staying with a male in the complex,” officers said. “At 4:30pm the male friend cooperated with entry into the apartment where Yates was apprehended.”
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/this-smiling-texas-woman-allegedly-abandoned-her-3-year-old-son-and-12-year-old-daughter-for-more-than-a-month/
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malaise
(296,102 posts)That is all
Paladin
(32,354 posts)
pazzyanne
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Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)I have a 12 year old, and I don't ever leave her alone for more than a couple of hours, let alone in charge of a 3 year old.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)
hlthe2b
(113,968 posts)to maybe have some mental health issues with that reaction.
Ilsa
(64,368 posts)asks why they never call, take her calls, or want to see her.
She infuriates me. Yeah, what parent wouldn't want to run away sometimes, but instead behaves responsibly because they love their kids?
Throw away the key.
Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)
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phylny
(8,818 posts)
Emile
(42,289 posts)A release shared by the Roman Forest Police Department on Wednesday stated the children couldn't get food for a lot of that time.
radical noodle
(10,595 posts)This woman is not "fat," so I agree with you that she appears to be healthy and not emaciated. My first thought was that she appeared not to have suffered from a lack of food for 7 weeks the way her children did.
"Not missing many meals" is classic fat shaming, so I can see how someone would make the conclusion you were engaging in fat shaming. Just a little different wording might not have resulted in the criticism.
Emile
(42,289 posts)the post only because it is distracting from the OP!
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)somebody insinuates that somebody is overweight?
phylny
(8,818 posts)It's unkind and unnecessary.
It's disgusting and criminal that this woman left her children to fend for themselves without food. That in and of itself is enough. No need to fat shame.
Ray Bruns
(6,362 posts)Goodheart
(5,760 posts)And, in fact, in this case the observation was very pertinent: she deprived her own children of food while obviously not herself. Just exactly who we're supposed to spare the unkindness from?
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Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Care shaming because of the comparison between her obvious lack-of-starvation and her children's starvation.
Emile's post #5, that you responded to, made that explicit with the phrase "missed many meals". Read it again. She obviously didn't miss meals but her children did.
It's about missed meals! You are the one to think it was about being fat!
How about waiting until actual fat-shaming occurs?
phylny
(8,818 posts)She took care of herself, not her children and that's disgusting.
What else would the statement "bet she hasn't missed any meals" refer to, except her size?
Sorry, there's no excuse for the comment as phrased
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)... where there was not a problem.
Blues Heron
(8,837 posts)Its gaslighting to then say someone is overly sensitive when they object to the usage of the common, fat shaming slur.
phylny
(8,818 posts)phylny
(8,818 posts)Here's some reading you can do about body shaming in general.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+what+is+fat+shaming&t=newext&atb=v207-1&ia=web
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)Investigators added that Yates threatened her daughter that the girl's father would take her and leave her brother alone if she told anyone.
Fearful of what may happen, the 12-year-old would get food by telling her father that Yates was working, and he would order food sent to the house. It was not until family members spotted Yates in Mobile, Alabama, where she is from, that they contacted the child's father because the kids were not with her.
Following an investigation, an arrest warrant was issued for Yates on Dec. 8, 2022.
Police added that Yates has been actively making posts about the situation, which led to tips and leads in the case on where to find her. When authorities followed a tip to the apartment in Mobile, the manager confirmed Yates was staying there with a man. At 4:30 p.m. local time Wednesday, the friend cooperated with entry into the apartment, and Yates was arrested.
"She was photographed in handcuffs with a full smile on her face and seemingly unbothered by the charges against her for allegedly putting her own children in danger," Carlisle said. "I don't know if she was playing a part or whatever it is, but she, I think, was playing for the camera. She wanted to have a smile. She wanted to look good. The arresting officer reportedly said she asked about putting lipstick on before the photo was taken."
Now, Yates is waiting to be extradited back to Montgomery County.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Seriously, I hope those kids don't end up separated. After a trauma like that and (obviously, well hopefully) losing their mother as a guardian, keeping them together will be critical in helping them deal with the long term effects of this abuse.
NJCher
(43,165 posts)If a person can deny an entire election, putting millions upon millions of people through the results of that lie, it would stand to reason than this person thinks she can deny being a parent.
It’s such a simple solution. Until it’s not.
NJCher
(43,165 posts)From dalton’s post above:
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She was photographed in handcuffs with a full smile on her face and seemingly unbothered by the charges against her for allegedly putting her own children in danger," Carlisle said. "I don't know if she was playing a part or whatever it is, but she, I think, was playing for the camera. She wanted to have a smile. She wanted to look good. The arresting officer reportedly said she asked about putting lipstick on before the photo was taken."
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Playing for the camera
Unbothered by charges
Wanted to look good
Uncaring re putting others in danger
And from another part of above post, blabbing away on social media
Sound like anyone else we have had the great misfortune of knowing?
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)We live in a time where far too many people don’t accept their personal responsibilities. Trump is their poster-boy.
I see this behavior all over. It’s a societal problem and I’m not certain it’s defined by the Red/Blue divide.
NJCher
(43,165 posts)which we will never be able to acknowledge, however, I have seen essays promoting that we do so.
Read up on it:
https://www.livescience.com/37684-narcissistic-personality-disorder-brain-structure.html
although outside of this article there are several scholars who have affected how the police look at this problem. These people have worked for decades with their research and it finally gained traction a little over a decade ago.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Will see much worse ahead. Abbott and GQP will do nothing to help those kids, now that they are out of the womb. “Fuck those kids, they are black anyway”. GQP motto.
forthemiddle
(1,459 posts)I know we love to blame Red States for everything, and in most cases it is appropriate, but in this case it has no bearing on it whatsoever.
The woman was pregnant 3 plus years, and 12 years ago. Well before Roe was overturned. This woman CHOSE to have her babies, and she CHOSE to neglect them. If she lived in Texas at the time, she could have obtained an abortion for either pregnancy.
Not everything is Republicans fault, sometimes it's good old fashioned irresponsibility.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)It was a statement about how these things will become much more of an issue because of it. That's what I got out of that post. And it is 100% spot on.
More people forced to have kids that aren’t ready or willing to have kids will lead to more situations like this. Even of this wasn’t a direct result of that.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)She wanted abortions but was able to get them? Texass has been limiting access for a long time. More than 12 years, and being black just made it all the more difficult even fifteen, twenty years ago. Texass has always been a hardass state when it comes to women's rights.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)My point is forcing birth upon women will possibly lead to many unwanted children. I live in an area where women and their partners, (I am not gonna call them men) make babies for government money. They treat their kids like shit, and they grow up stuck in the same path with no help out.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Texas-shaming gets a pass. It's fat-shaming that gets you in trouble, as this thread so dramatically illustrates.
LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)It DESERVES to be shamed.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)FYI, I too was born, raised, and live in Texas.
area51
(12,691 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)Might be she suddenly flipped. Or gradually and it wasn't noticed right away.
Does the father live with them and just has a job that takes him out of state?
niyad
(132,440 posts)normal.
Those poor children are going to need a lot of therapy, especially the girl.
flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)His divorced and crazy Mother left him alone for 2 weeks while she went on vacation. She left him cereal and Fast food, peanut butter and a few prepared meals and went to Europe.
Yeah.
His Uncle found out and came and got him from another state.
He says he was so frightened that he slept under his bed and never left his house.
He says he almost didn’t answer the door when his Uncle came because he was breaking the rules
And thought he would get in a lot of trouble.
I made him a birthday cake when he turned 40 and he burst into tears. He had never had one.
niyad
(132,440 posts)flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)He married my sis who ‘fixed’ him with lots of love. ❤️
niyad
(132,440 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)obviously open the door to take in food delivery. What in the world did she tell those children to so frighten them that they did not leave the house, did not try to get help? What kind of abuse had been going on there?
DFW
(60,186 posts)I know, I know, children are more resilient than we often imagine, but for WEEKS? I would SO have lked to wipe that smug grin off her face.
I have to remember that one time, here in Germany, my wife had to DEMAND that some stupid town bureaucrats arrest her for child abandonment or else.....(or else let her vote, that is). Once, when our girls were 3 and 5, and I wasn't an official resident here yet, she went to vote in an election here. She left the girls with a neighbor, or with me, I forget, and walked into town to vote. She was refused the right to vote. Why? Because she didn't live here.
Some idiot had made a mistake on some computer somewhere, and had listed her as living in Munich (München), a city in which she has never lived in all her life. She showed her ID, and the city officials still refused to let her vote. Their computer was right, and her ID was wrong. She finally told them to look up our two little girls. Sure enough, THEY were listed at the correct address here in the Düsseldorf area. My wife then said, OK, I'm calling the police because you, as town officials. have just accused me of child abandonment. Wait, Wait, there's no need for that (all of a sudden)!!! Knowingly instigating or aiding a false arrest is one of the few things that can endanger an otherwise secure lifetime job as a German bureaucrat.
So, they let her cast a provisional ballot, which became a permanent ballot the next day (voting here is on Sundays). The city bureaucrats even "generously" switched my wife's residence "back" to where it had been the whole time. They never did manage to wipe her non-existent Munich residence off their records.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Lancero
(3,276 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:43 PM - Edit history (1)
The person in your article is 22, with three kids.
Don't think this persons age was mentioned, but it's a reasonable conclusion that she's well older than 22 since one of her two kids is 12.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)And dad is in CA? I dunno but seems unlikely. My guess is “22” was for the benefit of what’s obviously a very flattering press release.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)2 years ago when the article was written. And the Raven in the article lives in LA. She's a singer.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)The listed age in the press release was probably fudged.
https://www.al.com/news/2023/03/mother-accused-of-leaving-2-children-in-texas-without-food-arrested-in-mobile.html
After Roman Forest police released details of the case to media, Yates had posted on social media about the situation. On her Facebook page, she describes herself as an “International Mommy CEO/Recording Artist/Model/Actress.”
And then theres this:
https://artistweekly.com/how-the-famouz-beauty-store-inspires-women-to-engage-in-self-love/
And there is a reason this entrepreneur works so hard. “I want my children to have a legacy, and that is what I am building with my business,” she explained, “My children are my biggest inspiration and motivation. Everything I do, I do for them.”
Lancero
(3,276 posts)Did he not ask questions, about why his kids were asking for him to send food? Did he not care enough to actually talk to his kids? How they were doing?
Poor kids. They got abandoned by both parents. Physically by mom, emotionally by dad.
RobinA
(10,478 posts)in these situations usually have about as much going on as the Moms.
JudyM
(29,785 posts)
Alpeduez21
(2,053 posts)
As the article says the mom said “ If you tell anyone what’s going on you and your brother will be separated.” But yeah the dad living four states away is at fault. Fuck that shit. Go back up and see about fat shaming then insert dad shaming
JudyM
(29,785 posts)
Sogo
(7,191 posts)me want to slap her.
I hate abusive and negligent mothers. I have two adopted nephews who came out of the foster system who had been abused by a mother who just keeps popping out kids and abusing them. One has done alright for himself. The other has mental and learning disabilities, but so wants to get his life on track. It makes my heart ache to know how badly he suffers due to his abusive mother....