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tblue37

(65,477 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 09:26 PM Mar 2023

She was so proud of her big gotcha. They can't even hire competent staff.



Rep. Boebert (R-CO): “We have more than 25% of federal employees not logging into work.”

@USOPM Dir. Kiran Ahuja: “I do take issue with the characterization.”

Boebert: “It’s in this leaked document.”

Ahuja: “You’re basing that from 2020, which is in the last administration.”
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She was so proud of her big gotcha. They can't even hire competent staff. (Original Post) tblue37 Mar 2023 OP
'in the last administration."' !!!! elleng Mar 2023 #1
She's... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #2
Ditto. n/t iluvtennis Mar 2023 #7
We keep saying that but she got re-elected. plimsoll Mar 2023 #14
Actually I think that is the perfect example of the danger of gerrymandering. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2023 #23
Scary past experience with the area lambchopp59 Mar 2023 #26
Doesn't surprise me, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2023 #29
Her district is competitive moose65 Mar 2023 #36
She got elected DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #24
I feel anyone DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #19
I got tired of... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #21
Running even a small restaurant is difficult. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #33
anyone azureblue Mar 2023 #35
Never Happen Azure DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #39
Oh, God! Isn't there SOME federal program......... MyOwnPeace Mar 2023 #3
Do you really think an idiot would hire anybody but another idiot? They speak each others language. dem4decades Mar 2023 #4
Time and time again DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #25
Boom! TY, Fred Wellman & the Recount! Cha Mar 2023 #5
Well, bless her heart! Chainfire Mar 2023 #6
I wouldn't trust these idiots to get my order right at McDonald's. Initech Mar 2023 #8
one would have to admit that they do accurately represent the people who elected them though anarch Mar 2023 #12
Because The People Who Elect Them Don't Care ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2023 #18
Because we haven't decided that the Hill we want to die on Volaris Mar 2023 #32
Gosar isn't exactly Mensa material, either. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #38
Christopher Titus called him "the world's shittiest dentist". Initech Mar 2023 #42
She is Boobert in so many ways, thanks for the Boobert Alert /nt bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #9
Boebert only got her GED NJCher Mar 2023 #10
She finally passed the GED on her 4th try. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #13
And paid $100. Initech Mar 2023 #43
Seeing that only around 1/3 of the American public has a 4 year degree... WarGamer Mar 2023 #37
the problem with your argument is that NJCher Mar 2023 #41
+1 Meadowoak Mar 2023 #44
I'm sorry but Congressfolks don't write bills. WarGamer Mar 2023 #46
why would you be sorry? NJCher Mar 2023 #48
My argument still stands. WarGamer Mar 2023 #49
your argument only stands in your head NJCher Mar 2023 #50
Nice gish gallop. WarGamer Mar 2023 #51
are you saying farmers and ranchers in the Northern Plains or Iowa have less NJCher Mar 2023 #52
Left unsaid.... RussBLib Mar 2023 #11
In 2020, a lot of people had COVID and we're quarantined. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #15
"Please, Sir, may I have another?" SeattleVet Mar 2023 #16
Moron Dopert Is Yet Another Republican Who Forgets Who Was President In 2020 ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2023 #17
I gave up counting the number of times she mispronounced SUPREMACIST. Native Mar 2023 #20
Also, her husband showed his weenie to little girls FoxNewsSucks Mar 2023 #22
Brunettes wearing glasses are really striking down the dumb blonde stereotype IronLionZion Mar 2023 #28
That meme has the wrong spelling for Palin's first name. Kinda makes it ironically dumb itself. nt thesquanderer Mar 2023 #30
Dunning-Kruger effect IronLionZion Mar 2023 #27
LOL, here's MeidasTouch's headline - Lauren Boebert: Professional Rake Stepper Brother Buzz Mar 2023 #31
As one could say, "Not the sharpest knife in the Caesar." sakabatou Mar 2023 #34
Lol! Kaleva Mar 2023 #40
Would be funny to see her expression at the end and how she replied. oregonjen Mar 2023 #45
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2023 #47

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
14. We keep saying that but she got re-elected.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:15 PM
Mar 2023

I figure that means %50 +1 of her district is at least that stupid.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
23. Actually I think that is the perfect example of the danger of gerrymandering.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:31 PM
Mar 2023

We can't even get rid of an idiotic **** like her because her district is drawn to ensure that ANY fucking republicon could win it. No matter how stupid, obnoxious or anti-American they are.

It's not the only district like that, and that's the reason republicons control the House even when more people vote D.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
26. Scary past experience with the area
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:52 PM
Mar 2023

Some familiarity with the area, ahem, correction: some deeply rooted PTSD beridden full-on burnt-my-past-bridges unexceptionally to the area to salvage my life familiarity with the region. Gerrymandered fully republican advantage, yes, but only a piece of the well-armed trouble there.
I could write a book on the facepalmwortthy stories of redneck stupidity from my unwilling late teen years moved in that vicinity. Many stories involving "running those no good pinko hippie commies out of town" stories. Several egregious racism violations. Grisly "killed the homo" legends who got off the murder charges scratch-free on the "gay panic" defense. Now all translated fully into hate-them-dems manifestos.
The Westboro bunch owns vacation homes there.
It's insanely fucked up area. Glenwood Springs-nice place. But drive straight through if you don't want to be sickened by the hateful MAGA displays.
None of that surprises me one iota from what I had the misfortune to experience.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
29. Doesn't surprise me,
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 12:03 AM
Mar 2023

most rural areas are similar.

Trumpism didn't create those people, it just gave them the freedom to be open.

moose65

(3,168 posts)
36. Her district is competitive
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 09:09 PM
Mar 2023

She won her first election in 2020 with 51% of the vote. In 2022, her election was the closest one in the entire country and wasn’t decided until weeks after the election. She won by like 500 votes.

She CAN be defeated. Her district isn’t like MTG’s.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
24. She got elected
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:32 PM
Mar 2023

by being a loudmouth, spouting Republican Talking Points, and riding in on Trump's coat tails........

Now the Republicans allow her to continue, because she keeps the media distracted from reporting what the Republican Party is doing in the shadows......
Same thing for why the Republicans allowed Trump, his daily antics distracted attention from all the corrupt crap the Republican Senators were doing in the shadows.....

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
19. I feel anyone
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:24 PM
Mar 2023

representing our country, should have a lot more education than barely passing the GED.........she couldn't even run a tiny restaurant without going broke...........

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
21. I got tired of...
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:26 PM
Mar 2023

Elected people talking down to me when I knew I was waaaaay further ahead of them, back when W was around.

LakeArenal

(28,835 posts)
33. Running even a small restaurant is difficult.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 08:03 PM
Mar 2023

It is also 7 days a week and most holidays.


So naturally it was too much for her.

azureblue

(2,149 posts)
35. anyone
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 08:13 PM
Mar 2023

In congress should pass a Combined US citizenship and basic Constitutional law test. Also Roberts rules of order.
This will have a two fold effect - 1 - keeping the idiots out of Congress, and 2 - Making sure the ones in Congress know what they are doing.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
39. Never Happen Azure
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 11:15 PM
Mar 2023

to many clueless stupid ignorant congress critters would have to vote for it, and the Republicans don't want any one with a brain trying to run things. They would rather the Uber wealthy run it from the shadows, and just tell them what to do and believe......

The only time that congress ever gets 100% behind a bill, is the one to give themselves a raise........

************************************************

I gotta tell you, I went thru the depths of my desk drawer and dug out two old pin/buttons I wore during the 60's.....still applicable today.

One said: IGNORANCE SHOULD BE PAINFUL

The other said: QUESTION AUTHORITY

I put them on the jacket I wear everywhere, people read them and just laugh. The Trumphumpers that read them and laugh, don't begin to think I may be talking about them and their lardass leader and his CABAL......

Sixty years later, and here we are, even deeper in the crap............

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
3. Oh, God! Isn't there SOME federal program.........
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 09:34 PM
Mar 2023

where GRANNY can just go home and SHUT THE FUCK UP????

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
25. Time and time again
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:36 PM
Mar 2023

I saw executives surround themselves with dumbshits who were just ignorant yes men and women......

Initech

(100,097 posts)
8. I wouldn't trust these idiots to get my order right at McDonald's.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 10:38 PM
Mar 2023

Why the hell are we putting up with dumbasses like Boebert and Greene in Congress?

anarch

(6,535 posts)
12. one would have to admit that they do accurately represent the people who elected them though
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:08 PM
Mar 2023

obviously not everyone in their districts, but the ones who voted for these imbeciles at least are being very well represented

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
18. Because The People Who Elect Them Don't Care
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:21 PM
Mar 2023

All that matters is the letter after their names. Their constituents are voting for that R. And NOTHING else. If they cared about ANYTHING else, morons like Dopert, Marjorie Traitor Greene, and Herschel Walker wouldn't get a single vote (not even from themselves, because I doubt they're smart enough to even know how to properly mark their own names on a ballot).

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
32. Because we haven't decided that the Hill we want to die on
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:09 AM
Mar 2023

Is public funding of federal elections ( plus whatever small donations you can raise--max 1K dollars PER CYCLE), per person AND CORPS, and everything else is illegal, PLUS the banning of PAID LOBBYLISTS (if you want to lobby congress for A Thing, that's FINE) BUT no one should turn a profit off that work..it should be voluntary minus travel/expenses.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
10. Boebert only got her GED
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 10:48 PM
Mar 2023

shortly before she was elected to the House.

She is so totally out of her element. Look at the educational accomplishments of her colleagues, according to Pew Research Center:

snip

In the House, nearly two-thirds of representatives (64%) have a graduate degree. Five representatives (1%) have an associate degree but no bachelor’s. Another 22 members (5%) do not have a degree. This group includes one member who has a professional certification: Democrat Cori Bush of Missouri has a registered nursing diploma.

snip

Which party has more educated people in the House?

snip

While 95% of Democrats and 93% of Republicans in the House hold at least a bachelor’s degree, Democrats are more likely than Republicans to have completed a graduate degree (73% vs. 55%). Fourteen of the 22 representatives without a college degree are Republicans.

snip

In the Senate: "Republican Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma is the lone senator without at least a bachelor’s degree. He holds an associate degree from Oklahoma State University of Technology."

snip

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/02/02/nearly-all-members-of-the-118th-congress-have-a-bachelors-degree-and-most-have-a-graduate-degree-too/

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
37. Seeing that only around 1/3 of the American public has a 4 year degree...
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 09:18 PM
Mar 2023

I see no problem with "Representative Level" politicians and their level of education.

Politicians, particularly Congressfolks are sent to DC by winning a majority of votes and they're expected to do what those who voted for them want them to do.

My Congresswoman, which is nice to write because my District is freshly gerrymandered from Red to Blue... she is expected to support the Democratic Party and President Biden because that's what the people sent her to DC to do.

You don't need a Degree in Physics to vote the way your constituents want you to.


Having said that... I'll go the other way re: Judges and Cabinet level folks and of course the POTUS.

Having Obama's intellect in the White House made for 8 years of restful nights.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
41. the problem with your argument is that
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 11:31 PM
Mar 2023

you are taking a very limited view of what a representative does. There is way more to it than representation of the constituents.

One has to have the wisdom to write bills that work within the structure of government. That is one of the problems with trump: he truly is ignorant of how government works. He especially doesn't understand how democracy works. He thinks he can just be the boss and that's that.

Same with Boebert. If you look at Boebert's bills, they are the type of top-down stupidity that would wreak havoc on how government actually operates. An example is her H.R.8030: Fentanyl is a WMD Act. Go ask the DEA how they'll be working with Homeland Security on this. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to take that on so Boebert can look good to her dumbass constituents.

Boebert does not have the sincere interest in government to actually propose and write legislation in keeping with what her colleagues can and do. Examine her bills alongside those of people like Schiff or Raskin. One quickly can see that the bills of the latter are very specific whereas Boebert's are "showmanship" bills, named to make herself look like she's representing r-w causes.

Here is another of Boebert's gems:

H.RES.680: Impeaching Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., President of the United States, for the high crimes and misdemeanors of betrayal of the public trust.

This has a lot of room for traction, don't you think?

I could go on, but I hope you get the idea.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
46. I'm sorry but Congressfolks don't write bills.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:20 PM
Mar 2023

They have teams of well educated people who DO write bills and research the Constitution and the law.

I stand by my argument re: "Representative level" politicians.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
48. why would you be sorry?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:27 PM
Mar 2023

Forget trying to tell me they don't write laws (which at that point are actually bills) because I know they do. Here's how I know: because I have proposed many a bill on municipal, state, and federal level and I have worked directly with the councilperson or state or federal congressional representative in the writing of these bills. Not to mention that 70% of representatives in the House (or at least before the republicans took over) are attorneys.

Not only did the legislator get involved, other legislators were asked to review and add input to the bill (in the form of writing). Yes, staff researchers did some writing, but it is not a case of the legislator telling his/her staff to "go write this law" like you are trying to say. Then the bill is sent to Committee, which is a whole other process in making it a law.

People like Boebert are doing nothing but clogging up the pipeline with nonsense that will never get passed out of committee. She is wasting our time, our legislator and support staff time, and taxpayer dollars.

So please tell us how you know Congressional reps don't write laws. Were you in their offices working with them? What is your experience in the legislative process? Have you ever proposed a bill to any governmental body? Have you ever even been in a Congressperson's office?

Do you even know how to look up and read bills by each Congressperson? Please answer these questions in any response you might compose.

Feel free to stand by your erroneous opinion, but I'm not going to let you get away with a sadly mistaken, ill-informed post like what you've written. I don't really care whether you stand by it or not, but I do want others to know that you don't know what you're talking about.

-----------

There is an exception to what I've written above and that is republicans. They do boilerplate laws. The laws that are anti-LGBQT, reports Rep. Cavanaugh, the filibustering representative from Nebraska, are boilerplate. In this case, who knows who actually wrote the original bill.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
49. My argument still stands.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:57 PM
Mar 2023

If a rural District of ranchers and farmers sends a High School grad to Congress... that's kinda the whole intent of the House of Representatives.

But whatever, you're rude and I'll not continue discussions with you.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
50. your argument only stands in your head
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 02:55 PM
Mar 2023

I think it's fair to assume the answer to my questions are no.

I asked you these questions so we could know how Congressional reps don't write laws. However, you completely failed to acknowledge or justify your answer, whereas I provided details from my social activist background about how I know. It certainly appears as though you have no justification for your position.

Therefore:

Were you in their offices working with them? Apparently your answer is no.

What is your experience in the legislative process? None? Looks like -0-.

Have you ever proposed a bill to any governmental body? You listed none.

Have you ever even been in a Congressperson's office? Please, at least you've done this?

Do you even know how to look up and read bills by each Congressperson? If you knew that, you wouldn't have posted what you did.

Stop misinforming people.


WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
51. Nice gish gallop.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 03:59 PM
Mar 2023

One more time before I block you...

The Constitutional intent of a Representative to the House of Representatives is for the person to be a member of the community.

It's perfectly A-OK for a rural district of farmers and ranchers in let's say... Wyoming, North Dakota or Iowa... to send a rancher with a High School Diploma to Congress.


Pointy headed intellectuals are always available for hire in DC to write legislation and research law.

And this is coming from someone with 2 Graduate Degrees...

You really need to work on your people skills... you really come across poorly. Like a jerk to be honest.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
52. are you saying farmers and ranchers in the Northern Plains or Iowa have less
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 06:19 PM
Mar 2023

education than other parts of the country? I think you are. How insulting to an entire group of people. This is bigoted and discriminatory on your part.

You also call staff members in Congress pointy-headed intellectuals. Wow. I happen to know quite a number of these people and not a one of them would get such an insulting description.

Nothing I have said in my posts is rude. I merely asked you to provide information that would qualify you as knowing that Congressional representatives do not in fact write ads. You have thus far avoided answering the question, which tells me everything.


RussBLib

(9,030 posts)
11. Left unsaid....
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 10:51 PM
Mar 2023

...ok, so Boebert's stats were from the Trump admin.

So what ARE the stats under Biden? Too soon for data?

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
17. Moron Dopert Is Yet Another Republican Who Forgets Who Was President In 2020
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:18 PM
Mar 2023

This is getting to be like a game show now. Every time you think this batch of Republicans can't get any dumber.........

IronLionZion

(45,496 posts)
27. Dunning-Kruger effect
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:59 PM
Mar 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a certain type of task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge.
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