For Bill Maher likers only please.....

[Laura PourMeADrink]

He's been on CNN, with Jake Tapper, interview tonight. Why would someone I agree with 90% of the time be so ignorant about COVID????? He reiterated tonight about the stupidness of it all ( shutdowns).

Tell me why?

[True Dough]

1. I just accept his warts

There aren't many politically-oriented comedians who are going to come down on my side of the fence on every issue. He can feel however he wants about COVID. I just won't stand or sit too close to him when he finally invites me as a guest on his show!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Agree.. but his feelings toward Covid just way too

out of mainstream liberal thinking. Hard to get past . Trying to understand his POV but difficult.

[Maru Kitteh]

2. I both like and dislike him. Covid fits the part of me that dislikes him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. +1

[betsuni]

3. He's nutty about health things.

Bill's never had any health problems, weight problems, nothing. He doesn't understand, bad health is alien to him. Like people who roll their eyes at the mention of food intolerances or allergies or that if you have a poor immune system masks help you avoid catching colds and things. They just can't understand. Like I will never understand depression. I think, well, just get up and do something you like, eat some ice cream or watch a movie and snap out of it. Doesn't work that way.

I appreciate both him and Whoopi Goldberg for being themselves, being wrong or nutty about some things. So what! They're interesting individuals.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. You've said the most true thing ever, "they are interesting people!"

No cancel culture. You don't have to agree with it all! Thanks!

[RockRaven]

4. In cases such as these, I find that often I discover that I have overestimated the congruence of

mind between myself and the other party. The initial breech causes me to look more closely/deeply/broadly/whatever than I had before and I find all sorts of shit in that person's speech/work history that I hadn't encountered before and don't agree with -- or had encountered but overlooked or forgot. People are weird and messy and inconsistent, all of us.

IOW, are you sure about that 90% thing? I doubt Bill Maher agrees with Bill Maher 90% of the time.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Not really. Despise his gross sexual/misogynistic stuff. But have always

really loved his take on pure Dem & current events. Just so unique and on point. But you're right... 90% probably WAY too high.

[Skittles]

5. why can't people understand this

AT THE START OF COVID, PRIOR TO VACCINES, HOSPITALS WERE *OVERWHELMED*

what part of SHUTDOWNS WERE NECESSARY do these STUPID FUCKING SELFISH ASSHOLES NOT GET?!?!?!

[2naSalit]

7. They don't get...

What real life for real people is outside of their pearly bubbles where everything is fine.

[ItsjustMe]

6. I am going to be posting tonight's show late tonight.

For whatever reason, my upload speed Is Extremely slow tonight.

https://realtimewithbillmaher.blogspot.com/

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Thanks!!;

[Johnny2X2X]

8. Been back and forth

He’s generally been a champion of good views. And even when he was dogging Dems too much it wasn’t too over the line. And he’s really wrong on Covid, Libs, and many other topics. That’s fine.

But he’s absolutely a bigot on trans rights. He has absolutely pushed bigoted views on trans people. And not just given a platform to bigots, but he himself spewed bigotry.

Bill seems to think that trans people don’t know what’s good for them and the government needs to tell them how to live their lives and what to do with their bodies. And he seems to think they’re tricking kids into being transsexual. He’s repeated these bigoted thoughts many times now. It’s sickening and so harmful to a community that is being targeted for persecution and violence right now.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Two strikes

[czarjak]

10. Going Gutfeld is crossing a line.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. He said he liked/agreed?

[Beautiful Disaster]

12. There weren't even lockdowns - certainly nothing as extreme as we've seen in other nations.

Maybe he should check in on what Spain was doing in 2020. Our lockdowns were largely voluntary (and no, remote working/school is NOT a lockdown lmao).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Wonder why he made such a big deal about that?

[bullwinkle428]

18. Even places like Australia. If the U.S. had enacted anything like that,

there really would have been mass uprisings among the craziest gun-humping segment of our population!

[MontanaMama]

16. The lack of empathy is what gets me.

I get that he’s healthy and never had health issues…but not feeling empathy for those who are not as fortunate is something that is a mystery to me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Agree!

[UTUSN]

17. Which is 90%, which ignorant of those 2?!

[Meowmee]

19. He is a narcissist

He says a lot of dangerous, and stupid crap to make money. No regard for the consequences.

[LostOne4Ever]

22. I stopped watching him when

He did two things 1) attacked Stan Lee (after he just died) and Millenials for getting trump Elected (despite comic book readers and millennials being two of the most pro-Hillary and anti-Trump groups imaginable)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2019/01/26/bill-maher-blasts-stan-lee-fans-comic-book-lovers-again-grow-up/2688622002/

And the final straw was when he had Debrah Soh in peddling Trans bullshit without the slightest pushback.

https://tgforum.com/debra-soh-needs-to-do-some-library-research/

I had deeply suspected he was a transphobe but that was the final nail in the coffin.

Looking back I should have realized he was scum during the Ben Affleck affair. He is a complete bigot against Muslims and I will forever ashamed of having defended him on DU back then.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/10/bill-maher-dangerous-critique-of-islam-ben-affleck/381266/

But I should have realized when he got mad about babies named Muhammad:

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/maher-says-hes-alarmed-by-british-babies-being-given-muslim-names-worried-islam-will-take-over-world-1ddd198cd295/

He shouldn’t be promoted on DU anymore until he admits his bigotry and tries to makes amends. He is past his three strikes with me!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Thanks for links! You've obviously thought about

it way more than I. So many more negatives than I even considered.

[Paladin]

26. You diehard Maher defenders will catch up with the rest of us eventually.

He'll finally shit on enough liberal principles to reveal his true self to you and drive you away. It's only a matter of time.

[ProfessorGAC]

27. LOL!

Don't flatter yourself.

[obamanut2012]

29. Only a matter of time???

He showed us how much of a wingnut he is plenty of times.

[obamanut2012]

28. Bedcause he has always been a despicable wingnut

And it is shocking so many DUers support someone who keeps showing them what a wingnut he is. He is not a Dem, a liberal, a progressive. He is a terrible person.

And, sorry, you cannot decide who gets to comment in threads.

Hey alerters: He does not ID as a Democrat/liberal.

[sky_masterson]

30. IMHO, Bill Maher was miserable during lockdown

You could tell by his attitude change. He is a man who loves the stage, loves performing his act.
Now he couldn't. His resentment of not being able to perform for audiences shaped his perception of
Covid and the lock down. Maher seems to forget the beginning of Covid, where doctors didn't know how to treat it.
Hospitals were loading up, we were storing bodies in freezer trucks. Our hospitals were overwhelmed. Supplies like Mask
were scarce. Kids in schools would have spread this thing even worse. Bill forgot about all that and selfishly only sees that
he couldn't tour and play for crowds. I've watched Bill for years and agreed with him 90% of the time, but ever since he got the Larry King glasses he's been selectively clueless.

[Ptah]

33. He had a laugh track during the lockdown!

[Generic Brad]

31. Are we supposed to write off everyone who does not share 100% of our opinions?

Just asking for a friend who is currently living in a red state due to unavoidable circumstances.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Exactly! Cancel culture way out of hand here too:(

[Chautauquas]

32. I disagree with him a lot, however

I also think he's really funny at times. He usually has some good jokes in his opening monologue and some of his New Rules jokes are funny. In a 24-7 news cycle where bad news is a constant, I take humor and lol moments where I can find them, like Maher and SNL. I don't have to like the entire presentation, but the moments that are funny to me are worth the time it takes to watch the shows.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. +1. Well stated!!!

[Behind the Aegis]

36. Haters gotta hate...and let you know how virtuous they are for not watching him.

As to your specific question, when it comes to COVD and, honestly, many medical issues (weight being one), he arrives at conclusions of his own design, and is more often than not, wrong. When it comes to trans issues, he is so far off the mark, that he often doesn't even make sense. Every now and again, he gets something right, or less wrong, but I would never use something he said about medical issues as "proof", even if he and I agreed on the particular subject.

This may be a stereotype, but I also think like many actors/comedians, he has an overinflated sense of self (see last week's show with that nutbar, Russell Brand!) and fancies his own opinion on any subject to be nearly beyond reproach.

Like you and some others in this thread, I often find myself in disagreement with him, sometimes only slightly, and sometimes polar opposites. There are those who can't stand any slight disagreement with their stated positions and don't realize how much they are really like Bill Mahar in that respect!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Good analysis!!!