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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"If we don't teach teenagers about sex, they won't do it." This was a direct
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quote from idiot beverly la haye (wife of "left behind" series author tim la haye) and "leader" of "concerned women for america" on the Phil Donahue (pretty sure it was Phil and not one of the others) talk show wayyyyyy back when. When he picked his jaw up off the ground, he looked at her and said, "You don't actually believe that, do you?" She insisted that she did.
I mention this again after hearing boebert bragging about being a 36 year old grandmother next month, as her 17 year old son and his 15 year old girlfriend become parents. She bragged about all the rural teen moms in her district, and how they love and value life. And just recently, she voted against comprehensive sex ed.
Joinfortmill
(14,446 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)She had the child and dropped out of school to take care of the baby. The dad was 18 and didn't deny he was the father. In a few years she got her GED and had another child with the same father. They all lived with my wife for awhile. I did not meet any of them until she was about 20. She got her CNA certification and got a job at a hospital.
Without drawing out the story, today she just turned 53 and has a masters degree in Clinical Nursing, makes around 200K a year and manages two departments at a hospital. She has been married to the father of her two children for over 30 years. That baby she had at 16 owns a Honda motorcycle dealership and her daughter is a cosmetologist.
The point is although it all worked out, life was a struggle and greatly complicated by becoming a mother at such a young age. It took a lot of support from both sides of the family. If not for that support she would likely still be cleaning apartment rentals for landlords, which she did for awhile. And I absolutely guarantee she would not recommend this path to anyone.
Joinfortmill
(14,446 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)it was doing it the hard way.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)turned out great but was a long shot
One slip in terms of not having other "good cards" delt would have been disaster
The big one I think is the stamina and health that she must have needed.
Get sick, have health issues, etc and its game over
usaf-vet
(6,194 posts)Because according to the idiots who say don't teach kids about sex are just that idiots with their heads in the sand.
They do not seem to realize we would have no fruits and vegetables or fish and meat if the rest of the living organisms needed to take a sex education class to reproduce by having SEX.
Sex education classes can, in fact, make it safer for young people to have sex WHICH THEY ARE GOING TO DO ANYWAY.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)catrose
(5,071 posts)Walleye
(31,035 posts)Nobody teaches kids how to masturbate, God teaches them that
Shermann
(7,423 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,226 posts)Where science and common sense are rejected by the GOP.
And they do it for the sole purpose of gaining power and wealth.
The GOP hates the people with a passion.
And will torture and kill us, we are just collateral damage.
Marthe48
(17,005 posts)If your body is thirsty, you drink. If your body is hungry, you eat. We teach our kids that kind of thing. And we make schedules, so the children learn to wait to satisfy hunger and thirst. But by golly, if we pretend that sex is a sinful crime, instead of a natural urge, and deny children sex education, they will not develop any ability to fight off that urge. Sex will happen and I guarantee that even with education and protection, Nature will win. But why in the hell go into the eternal battle unarmed? At least give the kids a chance.
If adults can plan a romantic dinner and evening that they hope leads to sex, it isn't a reach to be able plan an entire sex life by weighing pros and cons before you ever have a relationship. We will never stop sponateous copulation, but we can try to limit the number of wrecked lives.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)and likely barefoot.
I pity the girl & the new baby.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Chainfire
(17,587 posts)Republicans do everything in their power to turn the world upside down.
mopinko
(70,178 posts)ashredux
(2,608 posts)I dont care if the girl is 15, or 14, as long as its turning out white babies.
These people are despicable
OMGWTF
(3,972 posts)Rethugs only started caring about abortion when they realized it was mostly white women getting them, ergo, fewer white babies. It's all about White Supremacy. Period. These racist jerkholes are so afraid of being treated the same way they've treated minorities if they ever become a minority.
PatSeg
(47,560 posts)My head is spinning right now.
republianmushroom
(13,653 posts)those hormones don't need teaching they know what to do and they do it
Among teen females aged 15-19, 42% had ever had sex, and among teen males, the percent was 44%. So 58% of females and 56% of males have had sex between 15-19.
Guess both flunked Sex ed. course.
littlemissmartypants
(22,722 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)Sarah Palin & her spawn.........
Also, doesn't a teen in Colorado have to be a certain age to get married, or otherwise need to have a parent's approval????????
Same thing in other states????????
Anyone out there know the answer????????
niyad
(113,510 posts)Mariana
(14,860 posts)they have to be 18 in Colorado. Believe I read that yesterday.
aggiesal
(8,921 posts)And Earth is flat.
Earth was made in 7 days
Jesus spoke English
Dinosaurs walked with humans
...
rubbersole
(6,719 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)IF we don't teach them, they are vulnerable young girls and women who are prey for thescumbags
malaise
(269,144 posts)IF we don't teach them, they are vulnerable young girls and women who are prey for thescumbags
Traildogbob
(8,790 posts)Boeberts are multiplying. 😱😱😱😱😱
GGoss
(1,273 posts)calimary
(81,419 posts)niyad
(113,510 posts)to throw up my breakfast.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,362 posts)Pharlo
(1,818 posts)Because she looks considerably older than 36 to me. I think she did a George Santos and shaved 5 or 10 years off her actual age. And, it's not just me. MANY people are saying it. They are calling it Agegate.
Farmer-Rick
(10,197 posts)But I just thought I have trouble telling the age of people anymore because I've gotten older. Most folks look too young to me. But not her. She looks like she's led a tough life, or she's older than she claims.
patphil
(6,196 posts)These are children, and aren't emotionally equipped to take on the roles as parents. A 15 year old girl should be hanging out with her friends after school, not rushing home to care for her infant.
Lauren Boebert is being very irresponsible with her excitement and praise over her son and girlfriend having a child. It's not all about being a grandmom, bobo. Parenting is a life changing experience that will take these kids away from what should be the carefree and exciting days of their youth.
Are they going to live together or possibly get married? Is her son going to get a job and support the "family"?
Who's actually going to look after this child? I'm sure it won't be bobo; she's in DC, busy screwing up the House of Representatives.
And then there's all those rural teenage moms getting their sex education the Republican way. I doubt bobo actually has any idea what they are going through.
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)She just has adopted TFG's ploy of "doubling down." She can't change the situation, so she praises and justifies it. I feel very sorry for those two young teens.
Also, don't take her words at face value about the number of teen parents in her district. I would need to see hard figures to believe this, not the words of a lying dumbass.
AllaN01Bear
(18,327 posts)niyad
(113,510 posts)including brain function.
qbert is a destructive, hate-filled, despicable, stupid, creature.
Hotler
(11,440 posts)I guess Bobo's son is going to quit school and get a job to support is family and learn about bootstraps and personal responsibility.
haele
(12,667 posts)He also probably has a free desk position in Daddy's million dollar fossil fuel related firm when he graduates.
Oh, they'll gift the kids with a small house on or near the Bobo compound where maybe a nanny can babysit if both kids finish school or the girl can stay in while while at least the boy finishes school so no one can bitch about qualifications. Or if they lived in the Bobo's big house, she could be used as a free babysitter and housekeeper for the younger Bobos as well as her own baby.
14 and 15 year old girls can be easily coerced if all that's being expected of them is to sit around and wait for that "prince" to rescue them from the boredom of childhood. Pretty obvious the only expectation was for the pregnant 15 going on 16 year old was to make sure she picked someone who could take care of her for a baby daddy. And she apparently hit the jackpot in her immediate community.
Princess Bang Bang wouldn't be crowing about being a grandma if the other family wasn't like-minded in their politics and attitudes and the girl wasn't otherwise "acceptable".
Haele
DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)Some call her Bang-Bang-Boebert which is funny too.
Did I hear that the county clerk and her assistant are about to be charged with Vote tampering and potential election fraud for tampering with the voting machines up there????????
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)Don't teach kids how sex works and to be responsible and sensible about it and they'll learn from Pornhub and start pregnancies, at best.
Oneironaut
(5,519 posts)calimary
(81,419 posts)to send HER to Congress? On their behalf. To represent them.
niyad
(113,510 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,249 posts)Not exactly the regulated, moral, God-inspired world they envision. What reality do they think they are living in?
Takket
(21,607 posts)iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)to raise a baby. The odds are that the baby ends up being another f'ed-up teen. It's so sad.
malthaussen
(17,215 posts)... of one of these "purity" loons. She was bragging about how her son was about to marry his g/f, both 18, and that up to that point they had never so much as kissed.
My immediate reaction was that she was too naive to live, or that anyway the kids were lying to her, because the alternative was really too appalling to believe.
-- Mal
calguy
(5,324 posts)Ban drag shows!
Why didn't I think about this before?
AllaN01Bear
(18,327 posts)first sex ed class. the incident in question followd her for years untill she challanged a prospective employer.
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)Penthouse magazine than I ever got in school. My parents never even mentioned it.
Fortunately I relied on my looks and personality for birth control.
ironflange
(7,781 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)appleannie1
(5,068 posts)But someone should teach them how to prevent pregnancy in the first place. If nothing else, it would cut out the number of dumb asses there are in the world.
DFW
(54,428 posts)But it's their pal, God, who gave them the hormones, and gave them the ability to notice them, so just who is the bad guy here?
littlemissmartypants
(22,722 posts)Let the daddy raise the baby when "gigi" is busy. Then tell us how delighted everyone is.
Poor baby. I hope it grows up to give its parents and grandparents absolute holy hell.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)Wibly
(613 posts)I grew up in the mid 50s to early 60s and we were not taught about sex, and all I really wanted was to do it!
Then again, I am Canadian.
As a caveat I should say, there was plenty of open sex going on all around me, most of it in the barnyard and featuring animals, but . . .!
keithbvadu2
(36,869 posts)Isn't 15 the age when Bobo fell in love with hubby's penis that he was showing to underaged girls at the bowling alley?
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DFW
(54,428 posts)Now, THAT'S what I call call "family values"
Republican family values, anyway.
Demobrat
(8,986 posts)NickB79
(19,257 posts)My daughter knew about it by the time she was 4 when the rooster was vigorously "helping" the hens make baby chicks in the front yard
DFW
(54,428 posts)How about telling teenagers not to eat unhealthy food or toss trash where they shouldn't?
No wonder so many other countries look at us and say, "you ARE making a joke, here, right?"
I wonder how the American right explains that in countries with the highest saturation of sex education, teenage pregnancies and abortions are at the lowest proportion of the first world? But, of course, why should they be asked to explain it? Simply denying it takes so much less effort.
DavidDvorkin
(19,481 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)She saves haranguing about marriage for when she thinks she can own libs.
What about the sanctity of marriage, Boebert? Sex crime/sim (against your church) in your family and not a peep.
15 year old girl.
Welfare queens, Cadillacs, $100s of thousands. Oh wait, if it were Cory Bush that group would be foaming at the mouth pissed off. Funny how that works.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)Martin68
(22,845 posts)Right wing philosophy: keep your head buried in the sand and The Lord will take care of everything. Right. How's that workin' for ya?
relogic
(155 posts)Methinks there is so much celebration of the normal heterosexual outcome of teen intimate consequences displayed by BoBos for her 17 yo son. How could she possibly contain her glee? At least her son is not gay. See, the evidence before you is an impregnated child for the world to see. Its dogs way of example and furthermore child sex/matrimony is rampant in the OT. ITs all a win win for the evilgelicals.
Paladin
(28,269 posts)...for that bit of monumental stupidity.
This is the sort of enemy we are up against.
dlk
(11,574 posts)Too many Americans live in a fantasy world.
Farmer-Rick
(10,197 posts)And we have the cutest lambs born every year.....oh wait.
haele
(12,667 posts)Boys were only around for school coed events, and that later on and highly chaperoned. So, her only sex relationship education was probably that "talk" Mom had with her after Tim asked her father if he could take her out to dinner and a public walk with the understanding that there would be an engagement and marriage at the end of things if this first date led to further dates.
Haele