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niyad

(113,510 posts)
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 12:53 PM Mar 2023

"If we don't teach teenagers about sex, they won't do it." This was a direct

Last edited Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

quote from idiot beverly la haye (wife of "left behind" series author tim la haye) and "leader" of "concerned women for america" on the Phil Donahue (pretty sure it was Phil and not one of the others) talk show wayyyyyy back when. When he picked his jaw up off the ground, he looked at her and said, "You don't actually believe that, do you?" She insisted that she did.

I mention this again after hearing boebert bragging about being a 36 year old grandmother next month, as her 17 year old son and his 15 year old girlfriend become parents. She bragged about all the rural teen moms in her district, and how they love and value life. And just recently, she voted against comprehensive sex ed.

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"If we don't teach teenagers about sex, they won't do it." This was a direct (Original Post) niyad Mar 2023 OP
Life will be much harder for this young girl and she'll be taking a child along with her. Sigh. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #1
I have a stepdaughter who got pregnant at 15. Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #39
So glad it all worked out. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #60
It did, but Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #61
the hard way Locrian Mar 2023 #71
Could one of these sex experts answer this? Who taught all the flowers and animals about sex. usaf-vet Mar 2023 #73
Funny, I didn't teach my neutered Brussels Griffon about sex and he still tries to hump the cat. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #40
I doubt if she'll get much help from the Boeberts. catrose Mar 2023 #64
I really liked it, when then surgeon general Joycelyn Elders said Walleye Mar 2023 #2
This is based on the fallacy that teenagers won't organically bring laggards up to speed nt Shermann Mar 2023 #3
We are being taken back to the dark ages. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #4
If we don't teach teenagers about sex they won't have to tools for abstaining Marthe48 Mar 2023 #5
Of course she's bragging. The poor teen girl is being relegated to the kitchen early, SheltieLover Mar 2023 #6
Stupid is as stupid does. sarcasmo Mar 2023 #7
When did children having children become a positive? Chainfire Mar 2023 #8
when we're talking about white children, methinks. mopinko Mar 2023 #55
Sadly, this is rather simple. They want more, and more, white babies. That is white babies. ashredux Mar 2023 #9
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Mar 2023 #54
Oh my god! PatSeg Mar 2023 #10
Ask Palins daughter or Borbert son if it was sex ed. that caused hem to have sex. republianmushroom Mar 2023 #11
You're missing the n in never friend. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 2023 #44
Sounds like her mentor DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #12
I have not seen anything about the two young people getting married. niyad Mar 2023 #29
They may be too young to legally get married in Colorado. Mariana Mar 2023 #63
Think Rebl2 Mar 2023 #67
With these people, the Sun rotates around Earth. ... aggiesal Mar 2023 #13
A lot happened 6,000 years ago.... rubbersole Mar 2023 #37
Dumb does not describe these fools malaise Mar 2023 #14
Dumb does not describe these fools malaise Mar 2023 #15
The worst part about this Traildogbob Mar 2023 #16
HOLY CRAP !!! - They Actually Wrote A Book About It !!! GGoss Mar 2023 #17
At last! Ladies and gentlemen, the guidebook for Bizarro World! calimary Mar 2023 #25
Dear Goddess, I missed that piece of fiction!! Thank you so much for sharing. I am now going niyad Mar 2023 #30
Stranger still: there are probbly people who bought that book. With their own money. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #43
I want to see her official birth certificate, Pharlo Mar 2023 #18
snicker!! niyad Mar 2023 #31
I thought that too Farmer-Rick Mar 2023 #68
Nothing beats getting your sex education from "hands on" experiences. patphil Mar 2023 #19
I don't think that she actually believes any of this. colorado_ufo Mar 2023 #22
agreed. AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #38
It is not just the lack of emotional readiness. At that age, they are not completely grown, niyad Mar 2023 #33
I want the hear what the girl's parents have to say. Are they just as giddy? Hotler Mar 2023 #20
Nope, the Bobos are well off. Boy probably has a free ride to college if he wants. haele Mar 2023 #76
LOL Princess Bang Bang........ DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #79
Boebert probably considers Sarah Palin to be a mentor. MineralMan Mar 2023 #21
'It's ok! My son is going to be a deadbeat father. Problem solved!' - Probably. Oneironaut Mar 2023 #23
Sadly enough, what does that say about the voters who somehow saw fit calimary Mar 2023 #27
And not just once! niyad Mar 2023 #34
That formula breeds by opportunity, attraction, impulse, and lust bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #24
I'm living proof that isn't true LOL Takket Mar 2023 #26
The 17 year old and 15 year old are CHILDREN. Children don't have the mental know how iluvtennis Mar 2023 #28
A while back, I accidentally stumbled on a web page... malthaussen Mar 2023 #32
Relax...! All we have to do to solve this problem is... calguy Mar 2023 #35
my late mom was on another mcarthys black list for a long time for taking the AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #36
I got more sex education from Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #41
"Dear Penthouse, I never thought this sort of thing would happen to me, but. . ." ironflange Mar 2023 #47
Exactly. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #48
Apparently Boeberts are born knowing how to have sex so don't need educated. appleannie1 Mar 2023 #42
Republicans must be telling themselves: don't tell kids they have hormones, and they'll never notice DFW Mar 2023 #45
I hope the young lady drops the baby off at "gigi's" house and doesn't look back. littlemissmartypants Mar 2023 #46
Right and babies only come from the stork Javaman Mar 2023 #49
All I really wanted to do Wibly Mar 2023 #50
Isn't 15 the age when Bobo fell in love with hubby's penis that he was showing to underaged girls at keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #51
😂 BMW2020RT Mar 2023 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author BMW2020RT Mar 2023 #53
A proud grandmother at age 36. DFW Mar 2023 #56
If we don't teach them they learn for themselves. Demobrat Mar 2023 #57
Please. Rural kids learn everything there is to know about sex just by working the farm NickB79 Mar 2023 #58
Do the Bible Thumpers think that if they don't tell teenagers about killing people, that they won't? DFW Mar 2023 #59
Absolutely true. That's why no species with two sexes exist on Earth. DavidDvorkin Mar 2023 #62
Boebert carefully did not mention marriage Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #65
BUT The Bopper Mar 2023 #66
They won't do it right Bucky Mar 2023 #69
Shades of Sarah Palin. Remember her and her family? Martin68 Mar 2023 #70
Such Relief relogic Mar 2023 #72
A statue needs to be erected to Ms. La Haye... Paladin Mar 2023 #74
This level of ignorance is jaw-dropping dlk Mar 2023 #75
Yup, never taught my sheep about sex Farmer-Rick Mar 2023 #77
I'll bet Mrs Timothy LeHay went to a private or religious girl's school haele Mar 2023 #78

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
39. I have a stepdaughter who got pregnant at 15.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:56 PM
Mar 2023

She had the child and dropped out of school to take care of the baby. The dad was 18 and didn't deny he was the father. In a few years she got her GED and had another child with the same father. They all lived with my wife for awhile. I did not meet any of them until she was about 20. She got her CNA certification and got a job at a hospital.

Without drawing out the story, today she just turned 53 and has a masters degree in Clinical Nursing, makes around 200K a year and manages two departments at a hospital. She has been married to the father of her two children for over 30 years. That baby she had at 16 owns a Honda motorcycle dealership and her daughter is a cosmetologist.

The point is although it all worked out, life was a struggle and greatly complicated by becoming a mother at such a young age. It took a lot of support from both sides of the family. If not for that support she would likely still be cleaning apartment rentals for landlords, which she did for awhile. And I absolutely guarantee she would not recommend this path to anyone.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
71. the hard way
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

turned out great but was a long shot
One slip in terms of not having other "good cards" delt would have been disaster

The big one I think is the stamina and health that she must have needed.
Get sick, have health issues, etc and its game over

usaf-vet

(6,194 posts)
73. Could one of these sex experts answer this? Who taught all the flowers and animals about sex.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 12:30 PM
Mar 2023

Because according to the idiots who say don't teach kids about sex are just that idiots with their heads in the sand.

They do not seem to realize we would have no fruits and vegetables or fish and meat if the rest of the living organisms needed to take a sex education class to reproduce by having SEX.

Sex education classes can, in fact, make it safer for young people to have sex WHICH THEY ARE GOING TO DO ANYWAY.

Walleye

(31,035 posts)
2. I really liked it, when then surgeon general Joycelyn Elders said
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:02 PM
Mar 2023

“Nobody teaches kids how to masturbate, God teaches them that”

Irish_Dem

(47,226 posts)
4. We are being taken back to the dark ages.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:08 PM
Mar 2023

Where science and common sense are rejected by the GOP.
And they do it for the sole purpose of gaining power and wealth.

The GOP hates the people with a passion.
And will torture and kill us, we are just collateral damage.

Marthe48

(17,005 posts)
5. If we don't teach teenagers about sex they won't have to tools for abstaining
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:17 PM
Mar 2023

If your body is thirsty, you drink. If your body is hungry, you eat. We teach our kids that kind of thing. And we make schedules, so the children learn to wait to satisfy hunger and thirst. But by golly, if we pretend that sex is a sinful crime, instead of a natural urge, and deny children sex education, they will not develop any ability to fight off that urge. Sex will happen and I guarantee that even with education and protection, Nature will win. But why in the hell go into the eternal battle unarmed? At least give the kids a chance.

If adults can plan a romantic dinner and evening that they hope leads to sex, it isn't a reach to be able plan an entire sex life by weighing pros and cons before you ever have a relationship. We will never stop sponateous copulation, but we can try to limit the number of wrecked lives.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. Of course she's bragging. The poor teen girl is being relegated to the kitchen early,
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:17 PM
Mar 2023

and likely barefoot.

I pity the girl & the new baby.

Chainfire

(17,587 posts)
8. When did children having children become a positive?
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:42 PM
Mar 2023

Republicans do everything in their power to turn the world upside down.

ashredux

(2,608 posts)
9. Sadly, this is rather simple. They want more, and more, white babies. That is white babies.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:44 PM
Mar 2023

I don’t care if the girl is 15, or 14, as long as it’s turning out white babies.

These people are despicable

OMGWTF

(3,972 posts)
54. THIS! THIS! THIS!
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:53 PM
Mar 2023

Rethugs only started caring about abortion when they realized it was mostly white women getting them, ergo, fewer white babies. It's all about White Supremacy. Period. These racist jerkholes are so afraid of being treated the same way they've treated minorities if they ever become a minority.

republianmushroom

(13,653 posts)
11. Ask Palins daughter or Borbert son if it was sex ed. that caused hem to have sex.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:51 PM
Mar 2023

those hormones don't need teaching they know what to do and they do it

Among teen females aged 15-19, 42% had ever had sex, and among teen males, the percent was 44%. So 58% of females and 56% of males have had sex between 15-19.

Guess both flunked Sex ed. course.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
12. Sounds like her mentor
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:53 PM
Mar 2023

Sarah Palin & her spawn.........

Also, doesn't a teen in Colorado have to be a certain age to get married, or otherwise need to have a parent's approval????????
Same thing in other states????????

Anyone out there know the answer????????

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
13. With these people, the Sun rotates around Earth. ...
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:54 PM
Mar 2023

And Earth is flat.
Earth was made in 7 days
Jesus spoke English
Dinosaurs walked with humans
...

malaise

(269,144 posts)
14. Dumb does not describe these fools
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:55 PM
Mar 2023

IF we don't teach them, they are vulnerable young girls and women who are prey for thescumbags

malaise

(269,144 posts)
15. Dumb does not describe these fools
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:55 PM
Mar 2023

IF we don't teach them, they are vulnerable young girls and women who are prey for thescumbags

niyad

(113,510 posts)
30. Dear Goddess, I missed that piece of fiction!! Thank you so much for sharing. I am now going
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:26 PM
Mar 2023

to throw up my breakfast.

Pharlo

(1,818 posts)
18. I want to see her official birth certificate,
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:05 PM
Mar 2023

Because she looks considerably older than 36 to me. I think she did a George Santos and shaved 5 or 10 years off her actual age. And, it's not just me. MANY people are saying it. They are calling it Agegate.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
68. I thought that too
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:45 AM
Mar 2023

But I just thought I have trouble telling the age of people anymore because I've gotten older. Most folks look too young to me. But not her. She looks like she's led a tough life, or she's older than she claims.

patphil

(6,196 posts)
19. Nothing beats getting your sex education from "hands on" experiences.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:05 PM
Mar 2023

These are children, and aren't emotionally equipped to take on the roles as parents. A 15 year old girl should be hanging out with her friends after school, not rushing home to care for her infant.

Lauren Boebert is being very irresponsible with her excitement and praise over her son and girlfriend having a child. It's not all about being a grandmom, bobo. Parenting is a life changing experience that will take these kids away from what should be the carefree and exciting days of their youth.
Are they going to live together or possibly get married? Is her son going to get a job and support the "family"?
Who's actually going to look after this child? I'm sure it won't be bobo; she's in DC, busy screwing up the House of Representatives.
And then there's all those rural teenage moms getting their sex education the Republican way. I doubt bobo actually has any idea what they are going through.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
22. I don't think that she actually believes any of this.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:16 PM
Mar 2023

She just has adopted TFG's ploy of "doubling down." She can't change the situation, so she praises and justifies it. I feel very sorry for those two young teens.

Also, don't take her words at face value about the number of teen parents in her district. I would need to see hard figures to believe this, not the words of a lying dumbass.



niyad

(113,510 posts)
33. It is not just the lack of emotional readiness. At that age, they are not completely grown,
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:29 PM
Mar 2023

including brain function.

qbert is a destructive, hate-filled, despicable, stupid, creature.

Hotler

(11,440 posts)
20. I want the hear what the girl's parents have to say. Are they just as giddy?
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:10 PM
Mar 2023

I guess Bobo's son is going to quit school and get a job to support is family and learn about bootstraps and personal responsibility.

haele

(12,667 posts)
76. Nope, the Bobos are well off. Boy probably has a free ride to college if he wants.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 01:20 PM
Mar 2023

He also probably has a free desk position in Daddy's million dollar fossil fuel related firm when he graduates.

Oh, they'll gift the kids with a small house on or near the Bobo compound where maybe a nanny can babysit if both kids finish school or the girl can stay in while while at least the boy finishes school so no one can bitch about qualifications. Or if they lived in the Bobo's big house, she could be used as a free babysitter and housekeeper for the younger Bobos as well as her own baby.

14 and 15 year old girls can be easily coerced if all that's being expected of them is to sit around and wait for that "prince" to rescue them from the boredom of childhood. Pretty obvious the only expectation was for the pregnant 15 going on 16 year old was to make sure she picked someone who could take care of her for a baby daddy. And she apparently hit the jackpot in her immediate community.
Princess Bang Bang wouldn't be crowing about being a grandma if the other family wasn't like-minded in their politics and attitudes and the girl wasn't otherwise "acceptable".

Haele

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
79. LOL Princess Bang Bang........
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:47 PM
Mar 2023

Some call her Bang-Bang-Boebert which is funny too.

Did I hear that the county clerk and her assistant are about to be charged with Vote tampering and potential election fraud for tampering with the voting machines up there????????

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
21. Boebert probably considers Sarah Palin to be a mentor.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:14 PM
Mar 2023

Don't teach kids how sex works and to be responsible and sensible about it and they'll learn from Pornhub and start pregnancies, at best.

calimary

(81,419 posts)
27. Sadly enough, what does that say about the voters who somehow saw fit
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:21 PM
Mar 2023

to send HER to Congress? On their behalf. To “represent” them.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
24. That formula breeds by opportunity, attraction, impulse, and lust
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:18 PM
Mar 2023

Not exactly the regulated, moral, God-inspired world they envision. What reality do they think they are living in?

iluvtennis

(19,868 posts)
28. The 17 year old and 15 year old are CHILDREN. Children don't have the mental know how
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:22 PM
Mar 2023

to raise a baby. The odds are that the baby ends up being another f'ed-up teen. It's so sad.

malthaussen

(17,215 posts)
32. A while back, I accidentally stumbled on a web page...
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:27 PM
Mar 2023

... of one of these "purity" loons. She was bragging about how her son was about to marry his g/f, both 18, and that up to that point they had never so much as kissed.

My immediate reaction was that she was too naive to live, or that anyway the kids were lying to her, because the alternative was really too appalling to believe.

-- Mal

calguy

(5,324 posts)
35. Relax...! All we have to do to solve this problem is...
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:39 PM
Mar 2023

Ban drag shows!

Why didn't I think about this before?

AllaN01Bear

(18,327 posts)
36. my late mom was on another mcarthys black list for a long time for taking the
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:51 PM
Mar 2023

first sex ed class. the incident in question followd her for years untill she challanged a prospective employer.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
41. I got more sex education from
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:01 PM
Mar 2023

Penthouse magazine than I ever got in school. My parents never even mentioned it.

Fortunately I relied on my looks and personality for birth control.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
42. Apparently Boeberts are born knowing how to have sex so don't need educated.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:12 PM
Mar 2023

But someone should teach them how to prevent pregnancy in the first place. If nothing else, it would cut out the number of dumb asses there are in the world.

DFW

(54,428 posts)
45. Republicans must be telling themselves: don't tell kids they have hormones, and they'll never notice
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:19 PM
Mar 2023

But it's their pal, God, who gave them the hormones, and gave them the ability to notice them, so just who is the bad guy here?

littlemissmartypants

(22,722 posts)
46. I hope the young lady drops the baby off at "gigi's" house and doesn't look back.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:26 PM
Mar 2023

Let the daddy raise the baby when "gigi" is busy. Then tell us how delighted everyone is.

Poor baby. I hope it grows up to give its parents and grandparents absolute holy hell.

Wibly

(613 posts)
50. All I really wanted to do
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:37 PM
Mar 2023

I grew up in the mid 50s to early 60s and we were not taught about sex, and all I really wanted was to do it!
Then again, I am Canadian.

As a caveat I should say, there was plenty of open sex going on all around me, most of it in the barnyard and featuring animals, but . . .!

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
51. Isn't 15 the age when Bobo fell in love with hubby's penis that he was showing to underaged girls at
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:40 PM
Mar 2023

Isn't 15 the age when Bobo fell in love with hubby's penis that he was showing to underaged girls at the bowling alley?

Response to niyad (Original post)

DFW

(54,428 posts)
56. A proud grandmother at age 36.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 03:56 PM
Mar 2023

Now, THAT'S what I call call "family values"

Republican family values, anyway.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
58. Please. Rural kids learn everything there is to know about sex just by working the farm
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 04:18 PM
Mar 2023

My daughter knew about it by the time she was 4 when the rooster was vigorously "helping" the hens make baby chicks in the front yard

DFW

(54,428 posts)
59. Do the Bible Thumpers think that if they don't tell teenagers about killing people, that they won't?
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 04:22 PM
Mar 2023

How about telling teenagers not to eat unhealthy food or toss trash where they shouldn't?

No wonder so many other countries look at us and say, "you ARE making a joke, here, right?"

I wonder how the American right explains that in countries with the highest saturation of sex education, teenage pregnancies and abortions are at the lowest proportion of the first world? But, of course, why should they be asked to explain it? Simply denying it takes so much less effort.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
65. Boebert carefully did not mention marriage
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:33 AM
Mar 2023

She saves haranguing about marriage for when she thinks she can own libs.

What about the sanctity of marriage, Boebert? Sex crime/sim (against your church) in your family and not a peep.

15 year old girl.

The Bopper

(187 posts)
66. BUT
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:42 AM
Mar 2023

Welfare queens, Cadillacs, $100’s of thousands. Oh wait, if it were Cory Bush that group would be foaming at the mouth pissed off. Funny how that works.

Martin68

(22,845 posts)
70. Shades of Sarah Palin. Remember her and her family?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:34 AM
Mar 2023

Right wing philosophy: keep your head buried in the sand and The Lord will take care of everything. Right. How's that workin' for ya?

relogic

(155 posts)
72. Such Relief
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 12:21 PM
Mar 2023

Methinks there is so much celebration of the “normal” heterosexual outcome of teen intimate consequences displayed by BoBo’s for her 17 yo son. How could she possibly contain her glee? At least her son is not gay. See, the evidence before you is an impregnated child for the world to see. It’s dog’s way of example and furthermore child sex/matrimony is rampant in the OT. IT’s all a win win for the evilgelicals.

Paladin

(28,269 posts)
74. A statue needs to be erected to Ms. La Haye...
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 12:36 PM
Mar 2023

...for that bit of monumental stupidity.

This is the sort of enemy we are up against.

haele

(12,667 posts)
78. I'll bet Mrs Timothy LeHay went to a private or religious girl's school
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:47 PM
Mar 2023

Boys were only around for school coed events, and that later on and highly chaperoned. So, her only sex relationship education was probably that "talk" Mom had with her after Tim asked her father if he could take her out to dinner and a public walk with the understanding that there would be an engagement and marriage at the end of things if this first date led to further dates.

Haele

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