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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:45 PM Mar 2023

A possible, logical, explanation why Garland did not reopen old investigations into Trump.

When Obama became president he did not want to go back and investigate the crimes of the Bush administration. Obama wanted to look ahead, move forward. He wanted to focus on the task and problems at hand. Banking crisis, economic crisis, Obamacare, etc, no easy task. Many people did not agree with Obama. They wanted Bush investigated for war crimes, torture, etc. They wanted bankers, people on wall street investigated.

When Garland took office he had to repair the damage to the DOJ which was severe. Trump and Barr had corrupted and politicized the DOJ. Garland had to do this while dealing with an attack on the Capital, attempted overthrow of our country and all the other investigations the DOJ deals with around the country and around the world. No easy task.

Garland may have decided to deal with the tasks, problems, investigations at hand. He wanted to move forward, look ahead. He may have not wanted to reopen old investigations for the same reason Obama did not want to. Many people may not agree with this. They may believe Garland should go back and investigate all the crimes Trump committed in the past. It is easy for people on the outside to say Obama, Garland should have done this or that. It's not so easy for the people who actually have to do it.

This may be the reason Garland did not go back and reopen the Mueller investigation, individual 1 investigation, etc.

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Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
1. IIRC, new AG's don't prosecute cases that were "dropped" by previous AG's
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:49 PM
Mar 2023

Being the institutionalist, Garland wouldn't reopen and prosecute a case that Barr declined to prosecute.

Makes me want to puke, knowing how corrupt Barr was, if that is the rationale.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
2. That also makes sense. When an AG ends a case it hard for another AG to reopen it.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 01:59 PM
Mar 2023

That would look very political. We know Barr ended the Mueller investigation and there is reports he stuck his nose into the individual 1 investigation.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
3. The good news (like any of this is good), obstruction on the classified docs case is slam dunk
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:05 PM
Mar 2023

I think all of mueller's charges were obstruction.

So Jack Smith can easily nail trump for obstruction -- failing to turn over more docs (ordered by a subpoena, no less).

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
4. I completely agree.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:10 PM
Mar 2023

Smith has a smoking gun case for obstruction. Trump defied a federal grand jury subpoena. They found documents in his fucking desk. That's what you call, Busted!

republianmushroom

(13,653 posts)
15. There were more than 40 status broken by trump while in office.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 06:05 PM
Mar 2023

How many did the DoJ under Billy Barr investigate ?

How many have the DoJ under Garland have been investigated ?

President Trump’s staggering record of uncharged crimes

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/#table

As of November 2022, Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for president in 2015. That total only reflects allegations relating to his time in or running for office and omits, for instance, Trump’s criminal exposure for fraudulent business dealings.

As reported by https://www.citizensforethics.org/

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
6. A Nit To Pick
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:11 PM
Mar 2023

When referring to the building, it's Capitol, with an "o".
The city is the capital, with the "a".
As in "Our capitol building is in our state capital, Springfield."

Justice matters.

(6,939 posts)
7. 17.69 months left before the FBI's 60-day presidential-election blackout tradition kicks in.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:13 PM
Mar 2023

National Security keeps on waiting and all the while, it puts everyone standing at risk.

Justice delayed is Justice denied and now, the final countdown has begun.

Near 10K Attorneys work in the DoJ. That's almost ten times one thousand employees.

Justice matters.

(6,939 posts)
9. Ok. My reply is, in case someone "new" sees it.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:22 PM
Mar 2023

National Security deserves to look backward as much as forward.

And effectively enough (fast enough) because the target who is not even just indicted yet is running again.

Given the tricks that made the traitor-for-money win in 2016 with over 3,000,000 less votes...

Ocelot II

(115,805 posts)
10. I'm guessing that DoJ was a hot mess when Garland became AG -
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 02:33 PM
Mar 2023

understaffed and infiltrated with TFG loyalists. Even though most employees likely were decent, neutral civil servants who had ethically served other administrations for years regardless of party, it wouldn't surprise me if there were just enough stooges left over to throw sand in the gears of any investigation relating to TFG. Even apart from the task of cleaning up after whatever administrative goat-fuck TFG's people might have created, it had to have been difficult to be sure anyone assigned to an investigation could be trusted.

Girard442

(6,082 posts)
11. There are always reasons.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 04:09 PM
Mar 2023

Should it come to pass that all legal action will be uncompleted and have to be suspended in 2024 because it's too close to the election -- there will be reasons for that too.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
13. Plausible, if so that was a judgement call...
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 05:47 PM
Mar 2023

It is possible for a well motivated and essentially good person to make a wrong judgement call. When Bush left office, that it exactly what he did. Bush did not claim to still be the rightful president. He did not say that sometimes the constitution has to be over ruled . Bush did not attempt to overturn the election that brought Obama into office. Bush did not spread malicious conspiracies and lies about the results of the election that determined his successor. Neither was Bush impeached twice in the last months of his presidency, over issues other than those investigated by Mueller. The Mueller probe findings of probable Trump Obstruction of Justice were in addition to the high crimes and misdemeanors for which Trump was actually impeached.

Trump was a known dangerous serial offender who was still offending when Garland took over at DOJ. No similar claim was made about Bush when Holder became AG. Trump still posed an ongoing threat to the rule of law.. What many predicted, and what I believe recent history has proved, is that Trump only gets emboldened to commit ever more dangerous criminal offenses when he is not legally held accountable for prior ones.

I'm not suggesting that Garland had an easy call to make. I'm suggesting that he made the wrong call. The reasons you suggest may have played into his making that call, it doesn't however make it right.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,334 posts)
16. Blind, swift and sure justice? Blind, I think not, Swift, not so much. Sure, reamains to be seen.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 06:18 PM
Mar 2023

The rule of law IMO does not need justice to be blind or swift as long as it sure.

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