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RFK Jr considering run for President (Original Post) News Junkie Mar 2023 OP
Of what? nt Carlitos Brigante Mar 2023 #1
I saw what you did there. area51 Mar 2023 #69
. Carlitos Brigante Mar 2023 #71
Oh hell no. Archae Mar 2023 #2
Gee. Which party? dchill Mar 2023 #3
Democratic of course womanofthehills Mar 2023 #34
Fine. We'll see how long he lasts in the primaries. dchill Mar 2023 #36
He's not indicating that on his website, and all his support is coming from Trumpers so far. pnwmom Mar 2023 #82
Trumpers on Twitter say they will switch to vote in Dem primary womanofthehills Mar 2023 #87
It's NOT that they're not hot on Trump anymore. It's the opposite. pnwmom Mar 2023 #88
TY for Explaining That!! nt Cha Mar 2023 #93
Ghads, that's dissgusting! electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #107
Jesus, "Jr" said all that??? DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #114
He did indeed. You can read about it here. pnwmom Mar 2023 #116
I believe you. I'd rather not DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #118
If he runs now, he won't be a Democrat DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #113
Oh brother. FalloutShelter Mar 2023 #4
Stochastic murderer says what? RockRaven Mar 2023 #5
No. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2023 #6
Please no. pandr32 Mar 2023 #7
NO sheshe2 Mar 2023 #8
Help me decide if I should ask Becky Cordon, in 8th grade home room, to the dance this Friday . . . Journeyman Mar 2023 #9
LOL! Bev54 Mar 2023 #10
Ugh. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2023 #11
No thanks. roamer65 Mar 2023 #12
No, just no. Those of us who remember your father and uncle would never vote for you. (I don't LoisB Mar 2023 #13
I will go the next step and say bottomofthehill Mar 2023 #25
That is so true. Thank you for saying it. LoisB Mar 2023 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #43
Because he is an antivax covidiot, a disgrace to his family name. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #46
The anti-vaxxer? Oh no. Laffy Kat Mar 2023 #14
Help him decide by texting Bobby at (202) 932-7525. Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #15
Nina Turner has her candidate..... brooklynite Mar 2023 #16
"your vaccine advocacy" LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #20
Just another reason to dislike both of them. bottomofthehill Mar 2023 #26
I am from Ohio and I despise Nina. She is no longer a Democrat either...Peoples party. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #45
Ah, so the truth emerged? Another tulsi turd. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #48
Hi Sheltie! I saw you PM'd me. but I am just feeling well enough to answer now... Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #56
So happy to see you back in action here! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #57
Absolutely agree! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #47
He wouldn't be able to pardon Sirhan Sirhan, JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #17
Why in hell would he want whathehell Mar 2023 #21
He wants him released. JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #22
Any idea why? whathehell Mar 2023 #23
He thinks he's innocent. JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #24
Oh well.. whathehell Mar 2023 #61
Maybe not as much, but it's out there. It could have been seen as "the last straw" at that ... electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #106
RKJ recently said that he believes that the CIA killed both his father & Pres Kennedy womanofthehills Mar 2023 #38
Interesting.. whathehell Mar 2023 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #60
What a great little story! electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #108
As what? A Democrat? An Independent, Green or Democratic Adjacent liberal party? haele Mar 2023 #18
As a Democrat womanofthehills Mar 2023 #35
He is no Democrat. He is anti-vaxer who sided with the GOP. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #44
Hell no! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #49
And I'm considering a run to start at 1B for the Yankees. Bleacher Creature Mar 2023 #19
Check. Lunatic is the right word for him. brush Mar 2023 #31
Do your family a favor and don't run. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2023 #28
Which party? LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #29
What The Hell Is He Thinking? DET Mar 2023 #30
Yep, just a waste of time of anyone invloved. brush Mar 2023 #32
R's might cross party lines just to hurt Biden. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #40
Uh, No. Shame he went off the rails. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #33
Agree, somewhere he went off the rails into CT land Deminpenn Mar 2023 #50
Is he? Well, that's good to know. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #52
He's an environment lawyer Deminpenn Mar 2023 #53
He's one of our top environmental lawyers womanofthehills Mar 2023 #73
Indeed I don't think so and when you side with the GOP, you have no business trying to Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #99
I think of the Greens who claim to be all concerned with the environment but IMHO Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #100
He either founded co-founded, or was very early involved with The River Keepers. I remember that. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #109
No Meowmee Mar 2023 #37
I hear Tulsi is looking to be his VP lapfog_1 Mar 2023 #39
Mike Lindell would be more his speed Generic Brad Mar 2023 #67
And I am considering never, ever voting for him. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #41
Robert, I supported Bobby Kennedy. I knew Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was a friend of ours... GGoss Mar 2023 #42
If his dad was AG today would the orange one be in prison by now? nt Hotler Mar 2023 #51
Super! Maybe he and Williamson can collaborate on Ivermectin-scented candles! hatrack Mar 2023 #54
Lol Meowmee Mar 2023 #104
JFK is turning over in his grave. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #55
And his siblings are wishing he'd just shut up. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #94
Yep. Disgrace to the Kennedy name. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #96
similar reaction to Manchin... jcgoldie Mar 2023 #59
I really don't know much about RFK Jr except that he has been against vaccines liberal_mama Mar 2023 #62
He's one of American's top environmental lawyers womanofthehills Mar 2023 #74
Thank you! I didn't know that. liberal_mama Mar 2023 #81
Did you know he compared our vaccine mandates to Hitler's Germany, pnwmom Mar 2023 #85
He compared Biden and vaccines to Hitler. He said at least Anne Frank pnwmom Mar 2023 #83
He's a good man. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #63
Anti vaxer? Sirhan is innocent? CIA killed Jack? nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #64
Yeah, who knows? Here's why he matters... Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #65
I can't stand with anyone who compares the Biden administrations vaccine mandate to Hitler's Germany pnwmom Mar 2023 #90
I bookmarked your '13 thread on this. I want to read it in one day, too late this evening and too .. electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #115
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2023 #75
No, he is an ant-vaxer who sides with the GOP often. Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #72
He called Scalia a NAZI in 2008. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #78
So what? He also has compared the Biden administration to Nazi Germany. pnwmom Mar 2023 #91
Really did he now...well he called Biden a Nazi this year...does not move me at all. He is an Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #103
I remember reading something about a book Scalia wrote in Italian* that included positives on... electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #110
He's an anti-science crackpot. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #77
No, RFK, Jr. is a law professor. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #79
He may be a law professor, but he's also a nutter, and his campaign will be dead in the water. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #80
He is also a member of the largest personal injury law firm in the US womanofthehills Mar 2023 #89
SO WHAT? If he stuck to that, fine. But he's been busy comparing Biden to Hitler, pnwmom Mar 2023 #95
No person, and especially politician, is all good nor all bad. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #105
There are physicians who are crackpots, there are professors in all subjects pnwmom Mar 2023 #92
He's compared Biden to Hitler, so he'll never be the nominee. pnwmom Mar 2023 #84
He is not...and the he will never win the nomination after what he has done... Demsrule86 Mar 2023 #101
Oh, hell no! ShazzieB Mar 2023 #66
Nope Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #68
He is an irrelevant crackpot, with a famous name. tritsofme Mar 2023 #70
Lots of luck with that, Bobby. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #76
Nope... BlueIdaho Mar 2023 #86
He's the moron who believed, and still seems to believe, that vaccines causes autism NickB79 Mar 2023 #97
"And yet his son is a fucking dunce." nt Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #98
Just in.. A report on another Anti-Vaxer.. Cha Mar 2023 #102
No! Owl Mar 2023 #111
Dear RFK Jr. : DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #112
We were schoolmates as kids DFW Mar 2023 #117
I sent him a text saying "NO" in effect, but it was longer than that... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #119

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
82. He's not indicating that on his website, and all his support is coming from Trumpers so far.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:20 PM
Mar 2023

If he does it I think it will be as third party.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
87. Trumpers on Twitter say they will switch to vote in Dem primary
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:48 PM
Mar 2023

I’ve seen no talk of third party. Many Trumpers not so hot on Trump anymore - at least on Twitter.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
88. It's NOT that they're not hot on Trump anymore. It's the opposite.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:50 PM
Mar 2023

They're trying to help Trump by disrupting the Democratic party.

And they are thrilled that they can do it with a guy who compared the Biden administration to Hitler's Germany; and people affected by vaccine mandates to Anne Frank.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
118. I believe you. I'd rather not
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 09:35 PM
Mar 2023

read the quotes....


Well, with 11 children, there are bound to be some black sheep....


Journeyman

(15,446 posts)
9. Help me decide if I should ask Becky Cordon, in 8th grade home room, to the dance this Friday . . .
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:34 PM
Mar 2023

if enough of of you back me, and I can get some money from my Mom, I'll ask her at lunch tomorrow.



Just what the country needs, another irresolute clown who can't make up his own mind, running for the one office where everyday decisions require a determined consistency to ensure success.

LoisB

(13,009 posts)
13. No, just no. Those of us who remember your father and uncle would never vote for you. (I don't
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:39 PM
Mar 2023

think - I know I wouldn't).

bottomofthehill

(9,387 posts)
25. I will go the next step and say
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:24 AM
Mar 2023

I don’t think his father or uncle would vote for him. He is an ass

Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #25)

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
15. Help him decide by texting Bobby at (202) 932-7525.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:43 PM
Mar 2023

I volunteered on his father's 1968 campaign (largely stuffing envelopes) when I was a 10 year old and his murder still causes me pain, so I can only imagine the trauma inflicted on his children.

Nevertheless, I have less-than-zero desire to see RFK Jr making a run for office of any kind.

No.

LudwigPastorius

(14,707 posts)
20. "your vaccine advocacy"
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:04 AM
Mar 2023

Someone tell her that those words don't mean what she seems to think they mean.

bottomofthehill

(9,387 posts)
26. Just another reason to dislike both of them.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:26 AM
Mar 2023

I actually think Nina sucks worse than Robert Kennedy, but they both SUCK

SheltieLover

(80,410 posts)
57. So happy to see you back in action here!
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 09:39 AM
Mar 2023


Did you have your surgery? Last I saw, you had breathing concerns & surgery was delayed.



JenniferJuniper

(4,571 posts)
24. He thinks he's innocent.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:17 AM
Mar 2023

Didn't pull the trigger and has done enough time in prison

You'd think Trump would want this nut as his running mate. Seeing as JFK Jr. is still in hiding.

whathehell

(30,462 posts)
61. Oh well..
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:04 PM
Mar 2023

To my recollection, the RFK assassination didn't generate the same level of "2nd guessing", if you will, as that of JFK, so I'm not sure how widespread the belief in Sirhan's innocence is.
Like most, I find his Anti-vaxx stance off-putting and weird, but I don't know enough about his other positions to assume he's an all- out nutcase.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
106. Maybe not as much, but it's out there. It could have been seen as "the last straw" at that ...
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 06:44 PM
Mar 2023

time; the last flame of hope for many people snuffed out, especially after losing Dr King.

A lot of the country was thrown into a depressive mood (if you weren't around yet or way too young I can tell you it was so devasting - find a documentary on his funeral train from NYC to DC; you'll see) that a certain amount of people didn't follow the questionable aspects that normally might have.

I did later on. Paul Schaeder a big Labour Leader in California who was with the entourage right near Bobby (and seriously injured) did a lot of research.

What stuck for me was more bullets holes in the Ambassador Hotel kitchen pantry walls then what Sirhan's gun had capacity for.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
38. RKJ recently said that he believes that the CIA killed both his father & Pres Kennedy
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 03:39 AM
Mar 2023

He was recently on a podcast saying Pres Kennedy hated the CiA because they kept pushing him to get into wars. RKJ said President Kennedy wished the CIA did not exist and fired all the top CIA people. There was an internal war between the military industrial complex and President Kennedy. The CIA was trying to push him into a land war in Vietnam & Laos and he was opposed to a land war in those countries. I read that he compromised and put troops on the border of Laos.

When Kennedy was running for President, he was in a small parade in NYC in an open convertible. I saw him accidentally because the street I wanted to cross was blocked. About 20 businessmen and young pretty me were waiting to cross - when he waved at us none of the business men waved back but I waved like crazy and so he looked at me and we waved to each other.

whathehell

(30,462 posts)
58. Interesting..
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:53 PM
Mar 2023

He's not alone in that theory...Like many, if not most alive at the time, I never believed the Warren Commission and still don't. At this point, sadly, I'm not sure we will ever know the truth.

I too saw JFK campaigning in my neighborhood back in the day, though I can't say I got a "personal" wave..Lucky you.
.

Response to whathehell (Reply #58)

haele

(15,385 posts)
18. As what? A Democrat? An Independent, Green or Democratic Adjacent liberal party?
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:52 PM
Mar 2023

I don't think he'll run as a Republican or Libertarian, but you never know.
He can't make it through a Democratic Primary. Maybe a Green. I also think his Kennedy name won't have as much cache as that of the other political Kennedys before him.

Haele

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
19. And I'm considering a run to start at 1B for the Yankees.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:01 AM
Mar 2023

I probably have a better chance at achieving my goal than that antivax lunatic.

DET

(2,496 posts)
30. What The Hell Is He Thinking?
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 02:00 AM
Mar 2023

Democrats won’t vote for him because of his opposition to vaccines, and Republicans won’t vote for him because of his (or at least his family’s) liberal positions. This would be a completely futile endeavor. I have no idea why he wants to do this and why he thinks he could win.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
32. Yep, just a waste of time of anyone invloved.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 02:03 AM
Mar 2023

Something is wrong upstairs with that Kennedy.

Deminpenn

(17,503 posts)
50. Agree, somewhere he went off the rails into CT land
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 09:09 AM
Mar 2023

It's too bad because he was, and still is, doing good work for the environment.

Deminpenn

(17,503 posts)
53. He's an environment lawyer
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 09:18 AM
Mar 2023

Don't know if he's still involved with it, but he founded River Keepers or some similar organization.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
73. He's one of our top environmental lawyers
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 10:54 PM
Mar 2023

Been doing environmental work for 40 yrs. He is the main lawyer taking on Monsanto’s Roundup cancer cases. RFK Jr & his team represented a couple who were poisoned by glyphosate. The couple were recently awarded 2 billion dollars and he also won $290 million for Dwaine Johnson - 42 yr old black father of two young kids who had an accident with Roundup as a groundskeeper. He has terminal cancer. There are thousands of lawsuits. Monsanto/Bayer has put up ten billion to try to pay off some injured to have fewer lawsuits.

He has taken on around 200 corporations and gov agencies.

He just visited East Palestine to give an educational seminar- spoke to the people and has taken on 600 East Palestine residents as clients. He will probably get them all millions because he works at Americas largest personal injury law firm. Wednesday his team filed a class action lawsuit against Norfolk Southern in the Northern District Court of Ohio.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
99. Indeed I don't think so and when you side with the GOP, you have no business trying to
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 05:08 PM
Mar 2023

use the Democratic Party to run on your family name. No one cares about the Kennedys these days. Ted Kennedy redeemed himself and he ran in Massachusetts too...this guy no. I honestly thought he had left the party with some of his statements

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
100. I think of the Greens who claim to be all concerned with the environment but IMHO
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 05:12 PM
Mar 2023

if you give a damn about the environment you don't run against an incumbent president unless the goal is to help the GOP get back in power. Two, I don't believe a word he says...I heard and read his pro-GOP statements...he is an anti-vaxer too.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
109. He either founded co-founded, or was very early involved with The River Keepers. I remember that.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 07:09 PM
Mar 2023

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
37. No
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 03:02 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

Thumbs down. His top priority will be to make sure no one can get vaccinated for anything ever again among other insane crap.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
67. Mike Lindell would be more his speed
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:15 PM
Mar 2023

We do not need a conspiracy theorist who spreads rampant disinformation on the ballot.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,494 posts)
41. And I am considering never, ever voting for him.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 06:38 AM
Mar 2023

And ruing how he besmirches his father’s good name.

 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
42. Robert, I supported Bobby Kennedy. I knew Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was a friend of ours...
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 07:29 AM
Mar 2023

Robert, you're no Bobby Kennedy.


jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
59. similar reaction to Manchin...
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:57 PM
Mar 2023

Democrats aren't going to support him for obvious reasons so who will?

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
62. I really don't know much about RFK Jr except that he has been against vaccines
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:19 PM
Mar 2023

I don't think there is much concern here. He won't be able to get the democratic nomination, so he'd have to run 3rd party.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
74. He's one of American's top environmental lawyers
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 11:16 PM
Mar 2023

He was named one of Times Magazine’s “Heros for the Planet Awards” for his work in cleaning up the Hudson River.. His group Riverkeeper launched 222 Waterkeeper organizations around the world.

He was president of Waterkeeper Alliance for 20 yrs - up until 2020.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
81. Thank you! I didn't know that.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:19 PM
Mar 2023

Maybe I will check out some of his books. My local library carries a bunch of them for kindle lending.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
85. Did you know he compared our vaccine mandates to Hitler's Germany,
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:36 PM
Mar 2023

and said even Anne Frank was better off, because she could hide in an attic?


https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/23/politics/robert-f-kennedy-nazi-germany-offensive-anti-vaccine-speech/index.html

At a rally against vaccine mandates in Washington, DC, on Sunday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. likened vaccine policies in the US to the actions of a totalitarian state, even suggesting Anne Frank was in a better situation when she was hiding from the Nazis.

“Even in Hitler Germany (sic), you could, you could cross the Alps into Switzerland. You could hide in an attic, like Anne Frank did,” said Kennedy, a prominent anti-vaccine advocate, in a speech at the Lincoln Memorial. “I visited, in 1962, East Germany with my father and met people who had climbed the wall and escaped, so it was possible. Many died, true, but it was possible.”

Kennedy’s historically inaccurate anti-Semitic remark ignores the fact that Frank and some 6 million other Jews were murdered by Nazis. Frank, who was a teenager at the time, hid in an attic in the Netherlands, not Germany, before she was caught and was sent to a concentration camp, where she died.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
83. He compared Biden and vaccines to Hitler. He said at least Anne Frank
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:22 PM
Mar 2023

was able to escape to another country.

He's no Democrat.

Kid Berwyn

(24,346 posts)
63. He's a good man.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:26 PM
Mar 2023

If Bobby is the nominee, I’ll vote for him.

Until then, though, I’m all in for Joe B.

Kid Berwyn

(24,346 posts)
65. Yeah, who knows? Here's why he matters...
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:39 PM
Mar 2023
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press



Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his sister Rory Kennedy told Charlie Rose that their father, the Attorney General of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy, believed there was a conspiracy behind the death of his brother, President John F. Kennedy. For the first time in almost 50 years, members of the slain president's family were about their father's thoughts about the assassination.

(ARCHIVE) https://web.archive.org/web/20130114120047/https://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57563645/rfk-jr-dad-believed-warren-commission-shoddy/

The story made news, as it were, for a day or two -- it was on page 8 here in Detroit (try finding it using The Free Press or Detroit News web site search engines) -- and apart from several threads on DU, that's about it as coverage goes. The Charlie Rose interview was part of a program put together by the media and good people in Dallas to celebrate JFK's life.

What bothers me about the media coverage is the constant attack, not on the government's lousy investigation of the assassination and its attendant cover-up, but, rather, the attack on anyone who brings up the subject of conspiracy in the death of the president, even when it's children of attorney general who also was the brother of the slain president.

Check out this condescending piece of opinion from the Dallas Observer:



Not Even Charlie Rose Could Rein in RFK Jr. in Dallas Last Night. Also: Conspiracy Theories!

By Betsy Lewis Sat., Jan. 12 2013 at 11:01 AM

It got weird when he went into a historical lecture about his father's investigation into the JFK assassination. He was speaking about it as if he had been part of it, then cited a book called The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas (sic - actually "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters" by James Douglass) as being the best book on the subject, then kept referencing things from the book. He was losing the audience, so he burst out, "My father believed that the Warren Report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship," to the delighted applause of the mostly Baby Boomer audience.

Whenever Charlie Rose would ask about the family, RFK Jr. would evade the question until he heard either delighted Boomer applause or delighted Boomer laughter. One of his responses to a family question was an unrelated story about World War II. A lady behind me who must have recently Netflixed The Iron Lady kept saying, "Here here!" for the benefit of us unfortunate people around her.
Some of the strangest RFK Jr. outbursts with the biggest applause were:

"We're becoming a national security state!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Corporations want profits!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Corporations are great things, but we'd be nuts to let them run our government!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .

"Nationalism in Africa! The end of colonialism!"

At this point, I don't think anyone knew what the hell he was talking about. It was something about the Kennedy family airlifting President Obama's father out of Kenya to begin a new life in America.

RFK Jr.: "Yes."

CONTINUED...

(OLD) http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php

(ARCHIVED) https://web.archive.org/web/20130115215556/https://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php



Me, I don't believe any of that stuff was "out there." Why writer Betsy Lewis chooses to believe what the media tell her is true I'll guess lies in allegiance to a pay check.

Likewise for the lack of coverage given the story in the national media, where the same few corporations that swore up and down there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, both in 1990 and 2002, now want no part of "conspiracy talk" during the 50th anniversary observance. So far, as far as I'm aware, the Charlie Rose program has not aired.

What's more telling is what didn't get noted in the nation's corrupt mass media at all: The fact that Attorney General and later Senator Robert F. Kennedy also was assassinated. Some think that was a coincidence, because the mass media told them so. One thing's for certain, the questions still surrounding the deaths of two liberal icons doesn't get discussed at all today in our supposedly "free press."

Above is a 2013 OP from DU:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022416498

The original links above now go to the Internet Archive Waybac.

BWTM: Facts curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission in corporate media.

Two WC members helped bring NAZIs into mainstream USA.



Two of its members were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.

Background:

The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/

CIA and NAZI War Criminals

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

So, that’s why I stand with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and not the CIA or some random flock of smear artists on the Internet.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
90. I can't stand with anyone who compares the Biden administrations vaccine mandate to Hitler's Germany
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 04:13 PM
Mar 2023

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
115. I bookmarked your '13 thread on this. I want to read it in one day, too late this evening and too ..
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 08:34 PM
Mar 2023

tired.
(a "teaser" [bc I couldn't follow it further back] post seemingly saying RFK called out the Warren Commission?!)

Ten yrs old in '63, 15 in '68. At 10 I knew what happened was bad, but not why as in what we would be missing till later on as I learned and understood more.

In '68 I knew what we had lost. 😔

These things I've followed off & on for decades.
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As for RFK Jr I'm glad he's still doing environmental lawyer work. I heard him in person way before his vaccine pov changed.

Respectfully his anti-vaxxing crusade seriously endangers people's lives. Many people like myself who've become older. I sure had all my covid vaxs & maxes. It's a no go for me. Besides I think Prs Biden has turned out to be quite impressive. He was not my first choice.

RFK Jr 's become a very complicated person, and that's a shame.

Response to LAS14 (Reply #64)

Kid Berwyn

(24,346 posts)
78. He called Scalia a NAZI in 2008.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 12:44 PM
Mar 2023

I was there. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was addressing a group at Wayne State University in Detroit. He said the Iraq wars for oil were sold to America on lies. He said Bush Sr. lied America into the first and Bush 2 and Cheney were responsible for lying America into the second, an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous war. He also said almost all the Republicans in power at the time were corrupt, as about 2/3 of the Democrats in office. He endorsed Obama and he said Antonio Scalia’s father belonged to a fascist organization during World War 2 and that the Associate Justice Scalia was a NAZI.

The speech didn’t get much news coverage. But RFK, Jr. was right on all of it.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
91. So what? He also has compared the Biden administration to Nazi Germany.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 04:14 PM
Mar 2023

Apparently he sees Nazi Germany everywhere.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
103. Really did he now...well he called Biden a Nazi this year...does not move me at all. He is an
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 06:16 PM
Mar 2023

anti-vaxer and an all-around jerk who colludes with the GOP...I honestly thought he had left the party.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
110. I remember reading something about a book Scalia wrote in Italian* that included positives on...
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 07:22 PM
Mar 2023

Fascism. I believe it was never translated.
.

*Or was only published in Italian in Italy.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
80. He may be a law professor, but he's also a nutter, and his campaign will be dead in the water.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:10 PM
Mar 2023

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Even his own family is distancing themselves from this loon.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
89. He is also a member of the largest personal injury law firm in the US
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:55 PM
Mar 2023

He just announced he & his team will be representing 600 East Palestine residents against Northern. Because of his history of winning hundreds of lawsuits again corporations, big pharma and gov agencies we know each of these 600 people will probably get at least a million but that’s a no win if you no longer have your health.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
95. SO WHAT? If he stuck to that, fine. But he's been busy comparing Biden to Hitler,
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 04:49 PM
Mar 2023

and nothing else he does makes that okay -- or makes it okay that he's trying to toss the election to Trump or Desantis by acting as a spoiler.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
105. No person, and especially politician, is all good nor all bad.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 06:35 PM
Mar 2023

But this guy has a HUGE negative side that wipes out a lot of the good he has done or tries to do.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
92. There are physicians who are crackpots, there are professors in all subjects
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 04:15 PM
Mar 2023

who are crackpots, there are lawyers who are crackpots.

Having a credential doesn't make you a non-crackpot.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
84. He's compared Biden to Hitler, so he'll never be the nominee.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:23 PM
Mar 2023

I doubt that he'll even run as a Dem. If he runs it would be as a spoiler.

ShazzieB

(22,577 posts)
66. Oh, hell no!
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:12 PM
Mar 2023

His antivax (i.e. antiscience) stance and relentless promotion of same is all I need to know about him. I don't even care what he thinks about anything else.

If he were president and another pandemic reared its ugly head, we'd all be doomed. There'd be no vaccine, almost everyone would get it, and old folks like me and my husband would die like flies, along with anyone whose immune system wasn't in tip top shape. FUCK that, and FUCK RFK Jr. And his antivax b.s.!

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
76. Lots of luck with that, Bobby.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:25 AM
Mar 2023

I’m sure Putin will back your candidacy, so you’ve got that going for you.

NickB79

(20,345 posts)
97. He's the moron who believed, and still seems to believe, that vaccines causes autism
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 05:04 PM
Mar 2023

Thanks in part to his support of this completely discredited theory based on fradulent research, we now see disease outbreaks across the US and Europe of viruses we used to have under control. He also worked with Trump on a vaccine awareness and safety group, which was absolute horseshit.

He was particularly aggressive in preying on Somali immigrant families here in Minnesota, going so far as to come here and take pictures with families of autistic children at a conference where he blamed vaccines for the high rate of autism in the Somali-American population. In reality, there is absolutely zero evidence their autism rates are due to vaccines. Since his visit, we've had severe measles outbreaks in Minneapolis thanks to his "work".

In short, he's scum who has caused vast amounts of suffering, both by providing false hope to desperate families, and convincing families to not protect their children from potentially lethal diseases. I'd bet money that his anti-vax advocacy has directly led to multiple dead children, which makes him a murderer in my eyes.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
112. Dear RFK Jr. :
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 08:04 PM
Mar 2023

I worship the memory of your father....


Whatever good you might have accomplished in your life,
you have thrown away by promoting sundry anti-vaccination conspiracy theories
which make no sense at all.


Your father had very compelling reasons to challenge an incumbent president of his own party.

Your uncle also had what he thought were compelling reasons to do the same,
as well as a grass-roots of the party that were attempting to draft him to a candidacy.


You have nothing but an ideology that will lead to the deaths of people for no good reason.


NO. DO NOT RUN!

You don't have any such compelling reason to challenge someone who has been a very good president!

All you will accomplish is to become a stain on the name of your father,
whose name you happen to share.

DFW

(60,169 posts)
117. We were schoolmates as kids
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 09:04 PM
Mar 2023

He was a class under me, but we used to hang out at recess. Our dads were pretty fast friends. We lost touch after his uncle was killed, and he went to another school.

We got back in touch during his Ring of Fire days, and I suspect he had a had a hand in my younger daughter getting admitted to Pace Law, though he never said so. I saw him briefly at her graduation (2010), but that was the last time. He used to teach environmental law there.

He certainly seems to have gone off the deep end since (he wouldn't be the first of my old friends to do that). Too bad. I think he meant well initially, just got totally waylaid be either the wrong people or the wrong set of propaganda (or both).

Bobby running for POTUS is to be taken about as seriously as him running for Sultan of Brunei, and I say so sadly, as one who used to like him. I have had friends run for president before, whom I take as seriously now as I did then (does the name Howard Dean still ring a bell with anyone?). As for Bobby, I would ask him what Frank Zappa once asked of Suzy Creamcheese: What's got into ya?

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
119. I sent him a text saying "NO" in effect, but it was longer than that...
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:00 PM
Mar 2023

I received an auto-response saying 'thank you for joining the movement'! LOL

"Bloody hell, NO, I am blocking you!!" was my response.



It is all a sad thing. He was blessed with an incredible name,
but wasted it on anti-vaxx bullshit.

In any case, this was no proper time to test any presidential candidacy,
and there is no good reason to challenge President Joe Biden for re-nomination...


Bobby Jr. is more dead to me, than he was before now....


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