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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstfg will be indicted, prosecuted, found guilty of various crimes, and punished by:
New York State
The state of Georgia
The Department of Justice
Just wanted to go on record. I've believed this since the beginning.
I made a $100 bet with one of my contractors that tfg would not be able to finish out his term because he would be prosecuted. I lost the bet and paid him his $100. I was early, but not wrong, and I stand by my opinion.
The only question in my mind is what his punishment(s) will be.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Phoenix61
(17,015 posts)Fox has dumped him. His rallies are pathetic jokes.The worst thing in the world for a narcissist is to be ignored and forgotten and he is well on his way to that. Howard Stern was right, he never should have run for office. He could have lived out his life playing big shot and enjoying all the perks that came with that. There were people before who didnt like him but now theres millions who actively hate him.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)What were they thinking?
Phoenix61
(17,015 posts)It was better when they were rightfully ashamed of their racist, homophobic, misogynistic beliefs.
Joinfortmill
(14,448 posts)Woodwizard
(846 posts)Pity is the last thing on my mind some are just misinformed and easily manipulated and some are elfish evil racist AHOLES that came out of the closet after trump. One neighbor after Jan 6th said to me I wish they had burned Pelosi's desk, I kicked him off my property.
Been around now for 59 years and have never seen so many openly hostile and entitled people since the trump era.
Joinfortmill
(14,448 posts)Spot on analysis.
ShazzieB
(16,488 posts)Hate, loathe, despise, detest, deplore, and abhor. And probably some words that I didn't think of.
mysteryowl
(7,396 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Another riot, saying he will be arrested on Tuesday and asking them to protest.
Another 700,800 are to be arrested from the original. If this bunch tries the same they will be facing an armed force this time.
MayReasonRule
(1,461 posts)May reason rule!
AllaN01Bear
(18,353 posts)ShazzieB
(16,488 posts)That reads as seven hundred thousand eight hundred. That's how I read it at first, and it took my brain a moment to process it. Needs a space after the comma, or maybe a hyphen instead: 700-800.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)... while under arrest or pre-trial detention.
He will continue to run while under indictments (plural).
Perhaps the rump could not serve if convicted; there is merit to that legal argument, I am sure, but I'm not sure it is enough to prevail.
I am sure he will never win an election. He has lost the popular vote twice and lost in 2018 because of his actions and 2022 because of his shadow.
mysteryowl
(7,396 posts)jaxexpat
(6,844 posts)It may not have been a red wave, but it did take down a few rent-share units.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)To get elected McCarthy had to promise anything the Freedom Caucus wanted. Republican states like mine gerrymandered so they got a few more Republicans.
The Senate is still Democratic.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)jaxexpat
(6,844 posts)I've been watching that for a long time. It's an aspect of the horserace scenario. True, the party of the president in power faces a lot of uphill in the mid-terms because so many in the electorate are pissed because the president made promises on campaign which weren't kept. It goes differently if the candidate is able to make any popular thing happen in the first 2 years.
That it's a perceived as an irrefutable fact is a fabrication by the pundits and it is one of the reasons people are so cynical about government. The house was narrowly taken by the Republicans because there were still enough voters who weren't convinced Trump and the MAGAT's were really as bad as they obviously were. Also nagging in the back of the mind of the electorate was the thought, "if he was so guilty why haven't they jailed him? if there really was an insurrection why haven't the ringleaders been tried and found guilty?"
I agree with your take for the most part, but I place the TOTAL blame for our lame Republican controlled house on the DOJ and their slowball approach to this most important, difficult and unprecedented task. When no political actors were jailed awaiting trial by the 2022 election day, the electorate's dumber members voted the low road with a clear, though deeply flawed, conscience.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)All it takes is one MAGA traitor on a jury to let him go free.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)Not one I'm all that happy about, but a necessary evil when not everyone is rational.
niyad
(113,527 posts)account would be such a shock that he would quit wasting resources.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)Maybe NY State decided they might as well be the one.
Botany
(70,567 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,448 posts)Texin
(2,597 posts)I believe the strongest cases are to be made by Jack Smith at DOJ and in Georgia (but in GA only if they can find a jury willing to find him guilty. The DOJ case will involve insurrection and it will disqualify him from serving if he's found guilty.
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)... I tend to agree with you.
The other charges that will be placed against Chump are concerning things he did AS PRESIDENT and while he was in office. If there's any wiggle room - and there shouldn't be any wiggle room - it's on this charge that he paid off Stormy Daniels and others before he became president.
It wasn't illegal to pay for someone's silence, but the use of campaign funds and then lying about it - THAT's where he broke the law.