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LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:56 AM Mar 2023

tfg will be indicted, prosecuted, found guilty of various crimes, and punished by:

New York State

The state of Georgia

The Department of Justice

Just wanted to go on record. I've believed this since the beginning.

I made a $100 bet with one of my contractors that tfg would not be able to finish out his term because he would be prosecuted. I lost the bet and paid him his $100. I was early, but not wrong, and I stand by my opinion.

The only question in my mind is what his punishment(s) will be.

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tfg will be indicted, prosecuted, found guilty of various crimes, and punished by: (Original Post) LuckyCharms Mar 2023 OP
Damn straight ! WheelWalker Mar 2023 #1
He's already experiencing the, for me, best part. Phoenix61 Mar 2023 #2
+1 betsuni Mar 2023 #3
I PITY the millions who voted for him. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2023 #7
I'm more inclined to pity us for having to put up with them. Phoenix61 Mar 2023 #9
Amen to that. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #25
I live around many of them. Woodwizard Mar 2023 #11
Yes, we're in a very bad cycle. I think the end of it is about to begin. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #26
+1 llmart Mar 2023 #14
Not just hate. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #20
The best news will be that he can't run for office mysteryowl Mar 2023 #4
Trump is now trying to incite True Blue American Mar 2023 #5
Trump IS Inciting Insurrection, Sedition, Violence, Hate, & Destruction MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #12
i wished the courts would have put a gag order on him. AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #16
700,800? ShazzieB Mar 2023 #22
Wrong. He can run and serve even from jail Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #6
UGH, he is such a disaster! mysteryowl Mar 2023 #8
If he lost in 2022 then why are so many house committees chaired by Republicans? jaxexpat Mar 2023 #15
The House is the only one that changed Hands. True Blue American Mar 2023 #19
His endorsements lost bigly. Mid-terms supposed to go hard against Pres in power. It did not. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #23
"Mid-terms supposed to go hard against Pres in power." Is a rule invented by the media. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #28
I'm not convinced he'll be convicted. Marius25 Mar 2023 #10
Jury selection. An art form. paleotn Mar 2023 #18
One hopes that you are correct. Perhaps the shock of finally being called to niyad Mar 2023 #13
Well, there is the idea that everyone is waiting for someone to make the first move. paleotn Mar 2023 #17
Just saying Botany Mar 2023 #21
I'm with you. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #24
I think the Manhattan prosecution is the most iffy of the three. Texin Mar 2023 #27
Since he wasn't elected Potus (yet) when he made those illegal payments FakeNoose Mar 2023 #29

Phoenix61

(17,015 posts)
2. He's already experiencing the, for me, best part.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:15 AM
Mar 2023

Fox has dumped him. His rallies are pathetic jokes.The worst thing in the world for a narcissist is to be ignored and forgotten and he is well on his way to that. Howard Stern was right, he never should have run for office. He could have lived out his life playing big shot and enjoying all the perks that came with that. There were people before who didn’t like him but now there’s millions who actively hate him.

Phoenix61

(17,015 posts)
9. I'm more inclined to pity us for having to put up with them.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:42 AM
Mar 2023

It was better when they were rightfully ashamed of their racist, homophobic, misogynistic beliefs.

Woodwizard

(846 posts)
11. I live around many of them.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:49 AM
Mar 2023

Pity is the last thing on my mind some are just misinformed and easily manipulated and some are elfish evil racist AHOLES that came out of the closet after trump. One neighbor after Jan 6th said to me I wish they had burned Pelosi's desk, I kicked him off my property.

Been around now for 59 years and have never seen so many openly hostile and entitled people since the trump era.

ShazzieB

(16,488 posts)
20. Not just hate.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:15 AM
Mar 2023
There were people before who didn’t like him but now there’s millions who actively hate him.


Hate, loathe, despise, detest, deplore, and abhor. And probably some words that I didn't think of.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
5. Trump is now trying to incite
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:32 AM
Mar 2023

Another riot, saying he will be arrested on Tuesday and asking them to protest.

Another 700,800 are to be arrested from the original. If this bunch tries the same they will be facing an armed force this time.

ShazzieB

(16,488 posts)
22. 700,800?
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:21 AM
Mar 2023

That reads as seven hundred thousand eight hundred. That's how I read it at first, and it took my brain a moment to process it. Needs a space after the comma, or maybe a hyphen instead: 700-800.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,033 posts)
6. Wrong. He can run and serve even from jail
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:35 AM
Mar 2023

... while under arrest or pre-trial detention.

He will continue to run while under indictments (plural).

Perhaps the rump could not serve if convicted; there is merit to that legal argument, I am sure, but I'm not sure it is enough to prevail.

I am sure he will never win an election. He has lost the popular vote twice and lost in 2018 because of his actions and 2022 because of his shadow.

jaxexpat

(6,844 posts)
15. If he lost in 2022 then why are so many house committees chaired by Republicans?
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 09:50 AM
Mar 2023

It may not have been a red wave, but it did take down a few rent-share units.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
19. The House is the only one that changed Hands.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:14 AM
Mar 2023

To get elected McCarthy had to promise anything the Freedom Caucus wanted. Republican states like mine gerrymandered so they got a few more Republicans.

The Senate is still Democratic.

jaxexpat

(6,844 posts)
28. "Mid-terms supposed to go hard against Pres in power." Is a rule invented by the media.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 02:30 PM
Mar 2023

I've been watching that for a long time. It's an aspect of the horserace scenario. True, the party of the president in power faces a lot of uphill in the mid-terms because so many in the electorate are pissed because the president made promises on campaign which weren't kept. It goes differently if the candidate is able to make any popular thing happen in the first 2 years.

That it's a perceived as an irrefutable fact is a fabrication by the pundits and it is one of the reasons people are so cynical about government. The house was narrowly taken by the Republicans because there were still enough voters who weren't convinced Trump and the MAGAT's were really as bad as they obviously were. Also nagging in the back of the mind of the electorate was the thought, "if he was so guilty why haven't they jailed him? if there really was an insurrection why haven't the ringleaders been tried and found guilty?"

I agree with your take for the most part, but I place the TOTAL blame for our lame Republican controlled house on the DOJ and their slowball approach to this most important, difficult and unprecedented task. When no political actors were jailed awaiting trial by the 2022 election day, the electorate's dumber members voted the low road with a clear, though deeply flawed, conscience.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
10. I'm not convinced he'll be convicted.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:43 AM
Mar 2023

All it takes is one MAGA traitor on a jury to let him go free.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
18. Jury selection. An art form.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:02 AM
Mar 2023

Not one I'm all that happy about, but a necessary evil when not everyone is rational.

niyad

(113,527 posts)
13. One hopes that you are correct. Perhaps the shock of finally being called to
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 09:28 AM
Mar 2023

account would be such a shock that he would quit wasting resources.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
17. Well, there is the idea that everyone is waiting for someone to make the first move.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:00 AM
Mar 2023

Maybe NY State decided they might as well be the one.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
27. I think the Manhattan prosecution is the most iffy of the three.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 11:25 AM
Mar 2023

I believe the strongest cases are to be made by Jack Smith at DOJ and in Georgia (but in GA only if they can find a jury willing to find him guilty. The DOJ case will involve insurrection and it will disqualify him from serving if he's found guilty.

FakeNoose

(32,722 posts)
29. Since he wasn't elected Potus (yet) when he made those illegal payments
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 02:38 PM
Mar 2023

... I tend to agree with you.

The other charges that will be placed against Chump are concerning things he did AS PRESIDENT and while he was in office. If there's any wiggle room - and there shouldn't be any wiggle room - it's on this charge that he paid off Stormy Daniels and others before he became president.

It wasn't illegal to pay for someone's silence, but the use of campaign funds and then lying about it - THAT's where he broke the law.

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