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no_hypocrisy

(54,899 posts)
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:04 PM Mar 2023

With TFG's outburst this morning on social media, could he be indicted for tampering with jurors?

Or right now, the Grand Jury and a jury pool after the indictment?

His capitalized "message" has the potential to influence a juror who's pro-TFG to give him a mistrial or acquittal or another juror to vote not to indict and/or convict b/c of the fear of another insurrection. The latter is an undisguised threat IMO.


https://casetext.com/statute/consolidated-laws-of-new-york/chapter-penal/part-3-specific-offenses/title-l-offenses-against-public-administration/article-215-other-offenses-relating-to-judicial-and-other-proceedings/section-21525-tampering-with-a-juror-in-the-first-degree

Section 215.25 - Tampering with a juror in the first degree
A person is guilty of tampering with a juror in the first degree when, with intent to influence the outcome of an action or proceeding, he communicates with a juror in such action or proceeding, except as authorized by law.

Tampering with a juror in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor.

N.Y. Penal Law § 215.25

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SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
1. Perhaps like me, I don't pay one bit of attention to this moron, never did, never will, so any of
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mar 2023

these so-called 'tampering' with the jury efforts is moot, and I like to think that a responsible jury (questioned quite closely prior to being selected for jury duty), would already be aware of this crap going on.

tRUMP (and others too) seems to think that the world revolves around his stupid ass texts, which, IMHO, do not. That's why I don't read articles that plaster his damn texts still, that why I don't pay attention to anyone (on TV or otherwise) that analyzes them endlessly.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
3. I read earlier they are going for an anonymous jury...used for crime bosses and other high profile
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:14 PM
Mar 2023

Criminals. Not sure exactly how it works, but he will have a difficult time influencing that kind of jury

no_hypocrisy

(54,899 posts)
4. With all the media shouting about TFG's "message," it can be argued
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:18 PM
Mar 2023

that his words influenced a potential panel of jurors and/or the Grand Jury.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
13. Anonymous juries are not permitted in New York state courts
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 06:32 PM
Mar 2023

What you read, in all likelihood, relates to the Jean Carroll defamation case, which is being tried in federal court and where the judge has asked the parties whether they have any objection to an anonymous jury.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
5. It doesn't mention potential jurors
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:25 PM
Mar 2023

At this point that's all they are. There are no jury members. There is no jury pool other than potential.

no_hypocrisy

(54,899 posts)
6. When the Court conducts voire dire, and the panelists are asked whether they read or heard
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:27 PM
Mar 2023

TFG's message, then what?

no_hypocrisy

(54,899 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:32 PM
Mar 2023

Even though there will be substitute jurors ready to replace "plants," I see a mistrial in the offing.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
7. I think OP means the current Grand Jury in Manhattan.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 04:29 PM
Mar 2023

They are still in session, apparently are going to hear from one last witness on Monday.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
11. If the grand jury foreman in Georgia is any indication, then no, no tampering.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 06:14 PM
Mar 2023

There are potential jurors who are completely politically uninformed, clueless as to media opinion, unconnected to social media.

Like the "salt of the earth" speech in Blazing Saddles.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
15. I read earlier they are going for an anonymous jury...used for crime bosses and other high profile
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:20 PM
Mar 2023

Criminals. Not sure exactly how it works, but he will have a difficult time influencing that kind of jury

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