I think people are going to be disappointed with what happens....

[brooklynite]

I'm seeing such over the top predictions and hopes that, between the relative lowness of the likely charges (compared to the Federal investigation) and the procedural blandness of the indictment process, its going to be very hard to meet expectations.

[Elessar Zappa]

1. I'm just happy that

he’s being held accountable in some way. I do think we’ll see more serious charges from the DOJ in the future.

[Permanut]

2. I hope they at least send him a sternly worded letter..

I hear your skepticism, brooklynite. Mango Mussolini has cheated and grifted his way through life; no reason to belleve justice will ever be done.

[brooklynite]

3. I'm NOT being skeptical.....

I'm comfortable with the criminal justice process however it plays out. But since I'm interested in JUSTICE and not VENGEANCE, I'm not imaging handcuffs, perp walks, orange jumpsuits, etc.

[hlthe2b]

13. But most here simply want equal justice under the law--NOT VENGEANCE

Perp walks and handcuffs are not always the protocol. But arrest (even if presenting voluntarily at a designated place/time), fingerprints, and mugshots ARE, followed by arraignment before a judge who will decide how to proceed. Anyone else in that situation who had shown a perchance for ignoring court orders, speaking publicly in a manner that puts others at risk and inflames others prone to violence would get a gag order. Anyone else who was considered a flight risk would have additional measures and orders placed on their travel. Equal justice under the law.

And to the extent that anything changes from standard protocol, it damn well needs to be that necessary for security--to court staff, jury members (who MUST be kept anonymous) and to accommodate the secret service.

But as to the rest, I hold my highest hopes for conviction from the DOJ cases. I believe Willis has the goods, but a lot of increasing obstacles in her way. I will look forward to reading the charging documents from NYC, but sans a surprise not yet really discussed as yet to elevate the case to felony status, I have concerns--less perhaps with a conviction than with it being turned on its head to his advantage.

[BlackSkimmer]

21. You've missed some threads if you think that lol. nt

[CrispyQ]

4. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three...won't get fooled again.

To paraphrase another president who wasn't held accountable.

After Fitzmas I'm embarrassed I got my hopes high for Mueller.

[PatSeg]

40. Yes, that was terribly disappointing

I clearly remember your reaction, as it mirrored my own.

I am cautiously optimistic, but prepared to be disappointed.

[Emile]

5. After this damn long and being told repeatedly to have patience.

Now it's we're going to be disappointed. Seriously. . .

[BannonsLiver]

9. It's just the usual virtue signaling

And of course the perennial message: “I’m better than all of you.”

[BlackSkimmer]

22. Wow.

"Virtue signaling"?

Interesting choice of words.

[brooklynite]

34. Your insults are admirably consistent....

[RobinA]

42. Thinking That This

is a whole lot of not much is virtual signalling? I would call it reality signaling.

[BannonsLiver]

49. You obviously don't know anything about the OP

[BlackSkimmer]

51. "Envy blinds men and makes them unable to think clearly."

Malcolm X.

[BannonsLiver]

50. You obviously don't know anything about the OP

[LuckyCharms]

6. I'm anticipating one or more felony charges and

I'm not convinced yet the charge(s) will just be related to Stormy Daniels.

Could be wrong though. We'll see.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. If you're referring to Bragg, I agree

Bragg will break the ice with whatever he comes up with, but it’s the Feds and GA that have the real meaty indictments pending.

[Silent3]

8. This will be, at best, a small start...

…which hopefully sets a precedent and
eases the way for the far serious charges which (in a just world, a questionable assumption) which should be coming.

[niyad]

10. Even as extremely low as my expectations are, I figure I will still be disappointed.

The sparkling wine will, no doubt, remain unopened.

[RobinA]

43. Kinda Like

my candy bar bought on election day 2016 to celebrate the first woman President.

[roxybear]

11. Nothing will happen. Nothing ever does.

I'm not expecting much. TFG has done so much wrong but nothing ever happens to him. He always gets away with it. I can't believe that now will be any different. It's so frustrating.

[liberalmediaaddict]

12. The only thing I'd be truly happy with

is Trump being barred from ever holding elected office again.

The Senate Republicans blew their chanxe to do that during the 2nd impeachment trial. And now here we are.

[Meowmee]

32. They didn't blow their chances

They are all traitors who wanted to overturn a valid election the second time. They did exactly what they wanted to do.

[Casady1]

14. It could make him a martyr

and unfortunately help him.

[flying rabbit]

15. Even the indictment of an ex president

is a big deal. The first one is the hardest.

[betsuni]

17. +1

[BlackSkimmer]

25. Two impeachments were a big deal.

Remember that?

[flying rabbit]

28. Two other presidents had been impeached prior to Trump

No ex president has ever been indicted. That is a pretty big deal. There are a lot of indictments teed up after the first one. I don't know where this is all going to end up, but we will be going into new territory.

[emulatorloo]

16. Hyperbole is the fuel that powers DU.

But nonetheless if Trump is indicted this it will be a big deal.

[BlackSkimmer]

18. I agree completely.

If all this Tuesday titillation is true, I don't think it's going to end the way many here think.

IF this was leaked out of Bragg's office, intentionally, accidentally, or with malice aforethought, something is wrong there. No excuse for that kind of leak.

[honest.abe]

19. I will be thrilled just to know the asshole was finally indicted on something.. anything.

This has never happened before. Its a huge f'king deal.

[CousinIT]

20. Already am. Not expecting much. The media will hype it to the heavens

because...ratings. But it will likely be just WAY too little WAY too late. So tiresome. The time for justice against this lifelong criminal has long since passed. It's never too late but..his ass should have been in prison a LONG time ago. If he were anyone else, he would be.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217738111

[Hekate]

23. I no longer have "expectations"

[agingdem]

24. I agree...

a Trump hush money indictment for violating election laws is not a reckoning for January 6...I want that sonofabitch charged with sedition/treason/obstruction of justice...

[Chainfire]

26. If Trump is charged with a crime that a guilty judgement is a fine, yes, I will be disappointed.

However, I will not be a bit surprised. My expectations of justice for the rich and powerful has been greatly diminished over the years.

[brettdale]

27. even if we are

There is still Georgia, and Jan 6th too look forward too and being
indicted for Stormy will send him into a rage.

[betsuni]

29. I like to think about the way out of proportion reaction powerful people have to any disruption

in their lives, anyone else telling them what to do, having to do things they don't want to do. Especially Trump. Even if charges aren't serious, he'll be a furious toddler from now on.

[Claustrum]

38. He has been a furious toddler all his life,

his hand size and the ketchups on the wall proved it.

[Kaleva]

30. The Magahats have very high expectations. They are excited!

Trump will be Epsteined

This is the final nail in the coffin for the country they love

[Meowmee]

31. Justice must be seen to be done

Especially in this case. True accountability is NOT vengeance. Let him be treated the same way ordinary citizens are treated when they commit these crimes. Let it be publicized fully. I have no confidence there will be any true accountability for any of his heinous crimes.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

33. Dear Mr Fantasy, play me a tune, anything that includes fingerprinting and mugshots if u got em

[Arazi]

35. Pretty sure #Traitor is ramping up to make a scene

However “small” and unexciting the day/charges SHOULD be, the guy has a fundraising grift to run that’s fueled by MAGA grievance.

I bet he’ll stand outside and rant for a loooonnnggg time before he turns himself in. He’s going to provoke a SPECTACLE walking into the DA’s office. Pretty sure he’ll even *demand* handcuffs.

It’s going to be a shitshow

[SomedayKindaLove]

36. If Trump goes to NY he'll probably post bail

On his way out of town he will shoot someone on 5th Avenue. He’ll dash to Mar-a-Lago to stash some pens and stationary he swiped from the DA’s office. and then flee to Waco and tell everyone “I told you so” before he does his ear floss dance to “Can’t Touch This”.

So yeah, pretty much the usual.

[Arazi]

37. !!!!

😂

[dembotoz]

39. so no let them eat cake guillotine on Tuesday?

i did have my hopes up

[JustAnotherGen]

41. The Person saying it is 45

A known liar.

[JuJuChen]

44. We are ALL literally thirsty for Trump to get some form of justice

[ForgedCrank]

45. I'm finding

the entire thing to be a bit of a stretch overall.
I'm holding out for the possibility that I don't know all the details. But as things stand with the information that I know, it seems the whole thing is built on somewhat shaky ground. I know that'll make me even more unpopular than I already am, but I try to look at all this stuff through a realistic lens as much as I can.

[News Junkie]

46. "Arrested" is what triggered people into thinking

perp walk, fingerprinting, mug shot, matching orange jump suit. I don't believe the theatircs will be on display

[bigtree]

47. there's nothing 'bland' about the first indictment of a former president

...it's historical, and represents the tip of accountability for Trump. It's not the totality of accountability, and portends other prosecutions for crimes apparently more consequential.

What's the actual point in downplaying this? This is wanton criminality by a national leader who views himself involiable in the face of the law. It's a national disgrace, and it's Al Capone nailed on tax evasion.

[dsc]

48. I won't be disappointed

but I do find the desire for justice being characterized as vengeance to be over the top. There are people are serving decades in jail for pot dealing. There are people who spent years in Rikers for stealing a backpack. It isn't too much to ask that someone who has stolen from the public by not paying taxes maybe, just maybe, spend a day or two in jail.