I see no way that Trump will be the nominee now

[Polybius]

It will be Biden vs. DeSantis.

[muriel_volestrangler]

1. You mean, unless it turns out Republicans think there's a "Deep State" that persecutes people ...

who talk like them, and hate the same people they do? I mean, that doesn't describe them at all, does it? Nothing in the past few years has pointed that way, has it?

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Joe will still prevail.

A man of the people versus a DICKtator wannabe.

DeSatan's authoritarian power grab in Florida will not work for the rest of the country. People are rising up in states that are trying to flex their Mussolini muscles.

[Marius25]

3. Why? Trump will still be the nominee

DeathSantis doesn't have enough national support. Trump supporters are already attacking him.

[Polybius]

9. He has plenty of national support

He is loved by Republicans nationwide, and would crush anyone in the Republican primaries not named Trump.

[Marius25]

11. I disagree. He's not well liked outside of Florida.

He has no personality or charisma.

[Polybius]

20. I check out their sites and see every poll

There isn't a single Republican primary poll where someone besides Trump is ahead of him. On Republican sites they say they like him, although some MAGA hardcores say he should step aside for Trump.

[Demsrule86]

44. DeSantis...right wing bullshit in Florida make him a dead duck in a General. He can't

move to the center...the GOP base is not enough to win elections.

[Polybius]

47. Oh, I wasn't talking about the General Election

Just the Republican primary.

[Demsrule86]

52. He may win a primary but I doubt it...he will nevre win a General ...to extreme...and please

spare me polls...There are few that can be trusted.

[PortTack]

25. Exactly

[Kaleva]

13. His support has been declining since the midterms

[Cosmocat]

46. Longer lasting flavor of the day

I do know a fair amount of Rs who are straddling DeSantis and 45, or even in Destantis camp for now, cause they see him him for what he is, a heart less technocrat who is more nazi like, focused and more subtle about things.

But, these people like to get misty over their candidates, and he does not have any personality or charm.

There still is a long time for someone with more personality or charm, who will have a proven record and proclivity to be mean to others, to jump over Desantis as 1B.

[BlackSkimmer]

30. Judging by the bumperstickers I still see, tfg still has a lot of support in my area. Ugh.

I don't know if DeSantis is on their radar yet, but I can see him gaining support quickly.

[hamsterjill]

38. Hell, half of Texas still thinks Trump is President.

They won’t even entertain anyone other than Trump.

[nevergiveup]

4. I believe DeSantis will implode.

More likely someone like Youngkin or Kemp. I agree about Trump. I don't believe he will physically or mentally make it through the next 2 years.

[fescuerescue]

23. Trump is way to old

No way would he make it 4 years + 2 more.

[BlackSkimmer]

31. You know he's younger than Biden, right?

[pinkstarburst]

39. Which is a problem for both sides

Polling indicates both dems and repubs would prefer different candidates, likely due to age.

[Demsrule86]

54. Polling is meaningless...and we support Democrats. Biden is an incumbent and will be our

nominee...he is one of the best presidents in my lifetime...the other is President Obama who gave us healthcare and saved millions of lives.

[emulatorloo]

29. DeSantis is this year's Scott Walker or Rick Perry. I remember when the GOP'er claimed Walker was

going to be the next Republican President.

[Trenzalore]

5. This isn't going to hurt him in the Republican primary

Might actually help him

[patphil]

6. Agreed, Trump's base is the true dark heart of the Republican Party.

They'll be the ones voting in large numbers in the primaries.
It's going to be a bloody fight, but Trump will be the nominee.

[Trenzalore]

7. People are expecting decency from a portion of the population that has none

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. Waaaay to early to predict

Trump currently has a strong lead for the nomination, but once the indictments drop, my sense is those who have been looking for an off ramp will use indictments to craft a narrative that Trump has become “unelectable”. I expect FOX will get a lot of mileage out of “just asking questions- is Trump unelectable?”

In addition, Politico published a report that there is a move afoot by some establishment Republicans to change the winner-takes-all primary rules. If they succeed, Trump’s chances at winning the nomination drop significantly.

DeSantis has his own weaknesses as a candidate that have barely been examined on the national stage.

Nevertheless, my dream ballot would be a three way match up between Biden-DeSantis-Trump (as an independent). That way, we could kill two turds with one vote.

[Tarc]

10. Lol, what? This is red meat for the Trump base

It may eve drive more to him, in the GOP primaries.

They're already attacking DeSantis for not issuing a condemnation of the looming arrest.

[Polybius]

12. This is just the start

He'll be in jail by the end of the year. Without being in the debates, he won't win from prison.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. The trial won't even start before the end of the year.

TFG will wave his right to a speedy trial and his lawyers will paper the district attorney to death.

[Johnny2X2X]

16. No he won't

These cases will take years to play out, but he will be tied up in court for weeks at a time coming up.

[Celerity]

19. Almost zero chance Trump will be convicted AND imprisoned within the next 9 months, 11 days. nt

[Tarc]

28. Even if this wasn't hanging over his head, Trump was likely going to ditch the debates

The wingnuts have been laying the ground work for nearly a decade now, about the debates being biased against them.

[BannonsLiver]

27. I tend to agree

I’m not sure the OP understands MAGA politics very well.

[BlackSkimmer]

34. Ah, but you do, eh? You understand MAGA politics well?

Good to know.

[inwiththenew]

15. I think there are quite a few in the RNC that are hoping that is the case

They know Trump can't win but trying to get rid of Trump is a daunting task because of the maga base. If these indictments take him out then he will be gone without anyone in the party having to get their hands dirty and they will be done with Trump once and for all.

[Jarqui]

17. Divide and conquer

I hope Trump runs as an independent ...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

18. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[GenXer47]

21. a Trump-DeSantis ticket

Trump gets elected President from jail and DeSantis basically does all the work while the Asshole Supreme does nothing but mean-girl tweet and throw ketchup.
Magrats love nothing more than making a point in the most obtuse way, and this would satisfy their hunger plus make the ticket electable.

[Ms. Toad]

22. Guess you liked 2016, and want a repeat,

Since that is the same observation that was made repeatedly about his first run for presidency.

We have to treat him as a serious threat.

[Demsrule86]

33. I guess you forgot 2020...it will be worse for him in2024.

[Ms. Toad]

37. Nope. 2020 was too close for comfort, partly because - again -

people underestimated Trump and insisted he had no chance of winning.

2020 should have been a blowout. It wasn't.

[Demsrule86]

40. No it wasn't...we were in the middle of a pandemic...Trump lost GA for God's sake...it wasn't

close. I think you are borrowing trouble...most losers who run again lose again. We also won Arizona...for the first time since Clinton won in 96 and before that Truman won in 49...seems like a solid win to me. The GOP won all other years since 1912 when they joined the union.

[Ms. Toad]

42. Living in a fantasy world is dangerous.

Especially when the fantasy is run by trump.

Treating him as a joke, is a non-threat is downright dangerous.

[Demsrule86]

43. Trump will not win a General.

And acting like he has a chance does us no good.

[Demsrule86]

45. He is a joke who tried to overthrow the government which was a very important issue in the

midterms...I don't believe he can win again. I have given you my reasons and you come back with how I am living in a 'fantasy world' Really?

[Demsrule86]

48. Honestly, I think other live in a fantasy world...where Trump has god like powers...he doesn't.

Doom and gloom never gets us anywhere either.

[LiberalFighter]

24. I don't think DeSatan will make it.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Too early to tell

[Calista241]

32. I think Trump and DeSantis will make a deal.

Trump will drop out, fight his case, and give a few speeches to his base.

If we're in a recession next year, anything could happen.

[Demsrule86]

41. The economy is strong...no recession next year...geez.

[Hortensis]

35. DeSantis maybe not. Experts are pointing to the press's

poor record of predicting who will become Republican frontrunners AND their need to nevertheless produce incessant jabber over a year out. They have a very high fail rate, (JEB!, anyone?) and the "DeSantis-as-the-tRump-destroyer" image is a press construct.

As is their destructive "DeSantis-the-pudding-pig" theme right now. The press pack may already be bored with him and ready to discard and replace.

[Chakaconcarne]

36. No way Trump will be the nominee....

But he WILL explore every possible way to make $$$....and he will use the support he does have from MAGATs to blackmail the nominee to do his bidding...

[Demsrule86]

49. DeSantis will not win a general...not with his record in Florida.

[Polybius]

50. Yup, against Biden DeSantis will lose

Against Harris or Newsom, we're doomed.

[ZonkerHarris]

51. Nope. Trump will stab DeSantis in the heart with a butter knife before he loses to him.

The GOP's is Trump's
he owns it.
No one can beat his plurality in the primaries.
The more that run against him the more that helps him.

[Roland99]

53. Tim Scott (South Carolina)

I gotta feeling

[Demsrule86]

55. Not in a 1000 years...not the white supremacist party.