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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,882 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:49 AM Mar 2023

The Plaintiffs Trying to Ban the Abortion Pill Admitted They Have No Case

Every litigant who comes into federal court needs to establish that they are injured in some way. Here, plaintiffs are doctors who claim that mifepristone leads to them having to treat patients with complications. Put aside for our purposes here just how insane that argument is—doctors treat people with complications related to medicine all the time, it’s their job. For now though, just appreciate that this is their claimed harm.

As their lawyer explained at argument, the doctors “allege that they treated women who were presenting emergency medical situations” after using mifepristone. And that doing so, their lawyer said, “severely impacts the ability of doctors to practice medicine according to their medical oaths” because treating these patients is “more time-consuming” and “consumes an enormous amount of resources.” The lawyer later described two situations where two of the plaintiffs say that they had to save the life of a patient after taking mifepristone.

In the complaint, there are more harms claimed. Plaintiffs claim patients suffer from complications due to medication abortion as well as being deprived knowledge about what is really happening to them. They claim that doctors suffer, not only from having to treat complications (as discussed at the hearing), but also because medication abortion demeans the practice of medicine, ruins the doctor-patient relationship, and forces antiabortion doctors to complete abortions against their morals. And for antiabortion physician organizations, medication abortion forces them to divert resources away from their members because they are forced to spend time challenging the legality of these drugs. A principal focus of the hearing, however, was this claim that doctors were being distracted from other more important medical care by mifepristone-related emergencies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-plaintiffs-trying-to-ban-the-abortion-pill-admitted-they-have-no-case/ar-AA18U2mY
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ancianita

(36,009 posts)
1. Every litigant is represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom, a HUGE network of right wing
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:36 AM
Mar 2023

lawyers out to preserve all patriarchal dominance in this nation. They are funded by the Koch right wing network that bought the SCOTUS. https://adflegal.org/for-attorneys (click on the upper left logo for their front page; their lawyers number in the tens to hundreds)

Because of this suit and TX political culture behind it, Texas pharmaceutical firms don't or won't distribute Mifepristone.

One of them is McKesson Pharmaceuticals in which distributes drugs to the nation's Costco's, but will not distribute Mifepristone; I found that out yesterday from my local female Costco pharmacist. She said it's a management decision they can do nothing about.

This bullshit might or might not fly in TX courts, but it's mostly intended to bring down the FDA, one of Koch's goals to end government.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
2. Doctors complaining about having to practice medicine?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:06 AM
Mar 2023

Sounds like they might be in the wrong profession.

Either way, since treating someone with a serious medical problem seems to interfere with more important things, they obviously don't need those medical licenses anymore.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
3. Wow. I haven't studied the case. Didn't realize their claims were so flimsy
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:15 AM
Mar 2023

I mean, if the doctors think treating complications from a med is a waste of their time, shouldn’t they be asking the court to ban ALL prescription drugs???

Why this one drug? (I mean, we know why. The rethug way is to do these things backwards. You start with the conclusion that you want abortion banned and work backwards inventing a hypothesis you can give to some corrupt judge so they have some billshit reason to give you what you want).

sanatanadharma

(3,694 posts)
4. By this argument, emergency rooms should be shut down as they take resources from other care
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:21 AM
Mar 2023

By this argument, emergency rooms should be shut down as they take resources from other care.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
6. So any drug with a side effect could be challenged under this logic
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:07 AM
Mar 2023

The judge must be having a difficult time figuring out a legal argument to rule for the plaintiffs, or else he would have issued his ruling by now.

Mr. Evil

(2,833 posts)
9. Ever notice how
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:49 AM
Mar 2023

some RWNJ organization that exists only to diminish or to outright take away individual rights almost always name their entities 'blah blah Freedom' or 'Freedom blah blah?' If there's an organization out there with 'Freedom' in its name it usually means the exact opposite.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,882 posts)
12. yep. what women run Liberty group... runs around banning books that mention race
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:42 PM
Mar 2023

Liberty from reading i guess

dlk

(11,538 posts)
10. This has been the radical right's method for years
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 08:16 AM
Mar 2023

Throw everything against a wall to see what sticks. When something eventually does, they build on it from there. They are dismantling our government protections (and our democracy) piece by piece in a patient, methodical and well-funded way.

This latest coordinated assault on women’s health and autonomy to make their own medical decisions and rob them of their freedom is just the beginning.

dlk

(11,538 posts)
14. It is the only thing that will save us
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:26 PM
Mar 2023

There is a reason Republicans have seriously ramped up their voter suppression efforts. They understand most of us are on to them.

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