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This works for me, how about you? (Original Post) YoshidaYui Mar 2023 OP
Yes, That Certainly Works For Me (As Well) Ahna KneeMoose Mar 2023 #1
He's a billionaire. He can afford to pay for his own full-time security. In fact that expense brewens Mar 2023 #2
I get it, but ex-Pres security is not a perk. Further, private security is INSUFFICIENT Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #5
Also, with appropriate vetting, soldierant Mar 2023 #35
He's a BINO. Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #8
Yep, he's a clown living on credit. DinahMoeHum Mar 2023 #10
ALBINO lostnfound Mar 2023 #14
Ba Da Bing! Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #17
BA DA bong!! YoshidaYui Mar 2023 #30
Without a cellphone, either! Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #31
DEFINITELY without a cellphone! calimary Mar 2023 #39
"I've never tested that theory." Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #40
Yeah, no kidding! calimary Mar 2023 #41
The only orange ALBINO. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #36
Beat me to it. we can do it Mar 2023 #20
I have my days! Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #21
good one! housecat Mar 2023 #28
I know. I suppose at some point with everything he controlled, all that could have brewens Mar 2023 #42
The old question DFW Mar 2023 #43
Or, as they say, technically, on paper... Mr. Evil Mar 2023 #45
Nearly all of his businesses are losing money, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #9
And Cherokee100 Mar 2023 #13
They better fast track it. Ex-post facto laws aren't constitutional. mobeau69 Mar 2023 #3
That was my thought Kennah Mar 2023 #33
I don't see any downside. If a former prez is disgraced & has to live in poverty, so be it. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #4
Strip him of all benefits including Secret Service protection. Emile Mar 2023 #6
What? He gives all his salary to charity, don't he? 3Hotdogs Mar 2023 #7
And cut off Traildogbob Mar 2023 #11
Pension, security detail...any/all perks reserved for former presidents. Scalded Nun Mar 2023 #12
Here, here! Pay for your own security, asshole. ECL213 Mar 2023 #22
I thought that was particularly reprehensible. 3catwoman3 Mar 2023 #24
nah. I'd have to stick with sedition, stopdiggin Mar 2023 #15
if you make it as broad as a felony Democratic presidents MadameButterfly Mar 2023 #25
Same as ANYONE receiving a federal pension. czarjak Mar 2023 #16
And ex Generals too. They should strip Flynn of his pension. grantcart Mar 2023 #18
I looked this up. It was two years ago. Takket Mar 2023 #19
Not only presidents. blueinredohio Mar 2023 #23
how about removing Supreme Justices appointed by a crook, MadameButterfly Mar 2023 #26
Just the pension? That's chump-change to TFG. SeattleVet Mar 2023 #27
Boom! Cha Mar 2023 #29
Hehe YoshidaYui Mar 2023 #32
For "a" felony? Good grief, no. Even if it could apply to tRump. nt Hortensis Mar 2023 #34
I guess the symbolism is okay because the pension amount is minuscule for crooks like TFG. live love laugh Mar 2023 #37
YES, PLEASE! ShazzieB Mar 2023 #38
Yep RocRizzo55 Mar 2023 #44

Ahna KneeMoose

(302 posts)
1. Yes, That Certainly Works For Me (As Well)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:59 AM
Mar 2023

And if he were (to be) stripped of all other currently available presidential perks, that would be even better.

brewens

(13,558 posts)
2. He's a billionaire. He can afford to pay for his own full-time security. In fact that expense
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:07 AM
Mar 2023

along with the pension is a joke to a guy that wealthy. He can't claim to even need taxpayers to cover it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
5. I get it, but ex-Pres security is not a perk. Further, private security is INSUFFICIENT
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:47 AM
Mar 2023

Secret Service protection is a necessity for the stability of the nation.

Murder or injury of even a disgraced former President would create national upheavals we don't need.

Further, private security is insufficient for two reasons:

1) Threats can be international or be organized in force to overwhelm private security. The Secret Service gets information from the three-letter agencies that is not available to private security.

2) An ex-President can be competent at winning votes but incompetent at organizing proper, effective security.

soldierant

(6,836 posts)
35. Also, with appropriate vetting,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:56 PM
Mar 2023

Secret Service agents could possibly help to check his antisocial behabior.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
30. BA DA bong!!
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:08 PM
Mar 2023

lets light a joint to him getting indicted...eventually may his legal troubles be enough to send him to prison for life.

calimary

(81,181 posts)
39. DEFINITELY without a cellphone!
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 01:34 AM
Mar 2023

I don't think they allow cellphone privileges in one's jail/prison cell. Full disclosure: I've never tested that theory.

brewens

(13,558 posts)
42. I know. I suppose at some point with everything he controlled, all that could have
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 04:10 AM
Mar 2023

been over a billion. I doubt he could ever have cashed out and ended up with anything close to a billion.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
43. The old question
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 04:28 AM
Mar 2023

If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it still make a noise?

If you have borrowed $5 billion, but owe $10 billion, are you a billionaire, or are you the world‘s biggest deadbeat? Or both? I guess if no one has the capacity to call in the debt, then you‘re both.

gab13by13

(21,285 posts)
9. Nearly all of his businesses are losing money,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:46 AM
Mar 2023

the few that make money need to pump money into the failing ones.

Trump is not a good businessman.

When Letitia James is done with him (Oct. 2nd trial) he will not be able to do any business in New York, she will cripple him.

Cherokee100

(265 posts)
13. And
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 08:22 AM
Mar 2023

Send him to Moscow, where he can serve his time, in a Russian prison. He would be among friends there.

ECL213

(211 posts)
22. Here, here! Pay for your own security, asshole.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

How many millions did this prick make charging the Secret Service to stay at his shithole country clubs.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
24. I thought that was particularly reprehensible.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:36 PM
Mar 2023

He is such a lowlife. A thoroughly despicable person with no redeeming qualities - not a single one.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
15. nah. I'd have to stick with sedition,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 08:31 AM
Mar 2023

insurrection, actual crimes against the state. 'Felony' is probably too broad a category. And paying off a stripper (among a couple thousand other shi**y and dishonest things he's done both in and out of office) doesn't rise to the level ... Overall - I'd be a vote against. And I also think there's a certain element of sophomore games and hi-jinks here - which also merits more eye-roll that endorsement.

MadameButterfly

(1,047 posts)
25. if you make it as broad as a felony Democratic presidents
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:12 PM
Mar 2023

would be pursued endlessly in hopes of getting a felony to cut off pensions.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
19. I looked this up. It was two years ago.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 11:46 AM
Mar 2023

Submitted Feb 2021 by Jayapal and Maloney. It was sent to the oversight committee and no action has been taken since.

Maloney lost to a rethug in 2022.

Called the REAP act.

Being that rethugs now own the committees I would say this bill is dead.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
27. Just the pension? That's chump-change to TFG.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:38 PM
Mar 2023

Strip away ALL of the benefits that former Presidents get...office and staff allowances, health care, health insurance, and Secret Service protection.

The value of the 'side-bennies' is way higher than the piddly little pension.

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