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Duppers

(28,127 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 07:33 AM Mar 2023

Millionaires will burn through 2/3 of world's carbon budget by 2050


To limit global warming to below 1.5°C, we can only burn a certain amount of carbon.

But millionaire emissions alone will deplete 72 per cent of this allowance before 2050, according to a paper published in the latest Cleaner Production Letters journal.

Continued growth in emissions at the top makes a low-carbon transition less likely, as the system's capacity to decarbonize,” the scientists warn.
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Millionaires will burn through 2/3 of world's carbon budget by 2050 (Original Post) Duppers Mar 2023 OP
What are "millionaire emissions"? brooklynite Mar 2023 #1
I think the focus is private jets - but you're right - it's unclear. harumph Mar 2023 #3
Emission from people who have over $1m now, or $2.4m by 2050 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2023 #6
For some reason, Delphinus Mar 2023 #2
Yachts, air travel, and real estate orthoclad Mar 2023 #4
Wow. Did not realize that yachts put out that much carbon. Duppers Mar 2023 #5
They can afford it by orthoclad Mar 2023 #10
Bill Gates and his family probably have net negative carbon emission footprints gulliver Mar 2023 #7
I don't know if I buy that madville Mar 2023 #8
I think it's subtly telling us our carbon budget is way too small NickB79 Mar 2023 #9

muriel_volestrangler

(101,388 posts)
6. Emission from people who have over $1m now, or $2.4m by 2050
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 06:06 AM
Mar 2023

These are now 0.7% of the world population; by 2050, they will be 3.3%.

When you delve into the paper orthoclad linked to in reply #4, you find table 1, which divides up the amounts by the top 10%, 1%, .1% and .01%. And you find that the "9%" (ie the 10% excluding the 1%) have, from 1990 to 2020, modestly cut their per capita CO2 emissions from 17.3 tonnes to 15.7. But the "0.9%" above them have increased from 42.4t to 49t, the "0.09%" from 135t to 161t, and the 0.01% from 980t to 1784t.

If that trend continues, by 2050, the 0.01% will be emitting 238 times as much CO2 per capita than the 9%.

(And, taking data from Table 6.1 in the supplemental tables of the Chancel paper which their 1990 and 2020 figures come from, I reckon, for completeness' sake, the 90% went from 2.5t CO2 in 1990 to 2.6t in 2020)

https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41893-022-00955-z/MediaObjects/41893_2022_955_MOESM1_ESM.pdf

Delphinus

(11,842 posts)
2. For some reason,
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:17 AM
Mar 2023

the millionaires do NOT seem concerned.

And, really, when it comes down to it, it's the first world countries that are doing the damage, not just those with tons of money. I wish I could remember the statistic I read yesterday about how many people in the world DO NOT fly. It was staggering. But they are the ones paying the price because they will feel the ramifications of climate change first.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
4. Yachts, air travel, and real estate
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:34 AM
Mar 2023

The Euronews article is poorly written because it refers to a study without linking to it. I did some digging and found the pdf of the paper on Elsevier.
https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S2666791622000252?token=A1A006725A2024F70784A0D67FA80C77A384E332021618ADCD97C1BE7F6E913046B83ECFC184E19F7CC2456E2322582A&originRegion=us-east-1&originCreation=20230323131315

"Key drivers of individual emissions include energy-intense trans-
portation, especially private aircraft and yachts, and multiple real estate
ownership
, often in different continents (Barros and Wilk, 2021; Bea-
verstock and Faulconbridge, 2014). Studies investigating celebrities,
including US$ billionaires, have found that individuals can cause emissions of up to 1600 t CO2 per year through the use of private aircraft
alone (G ̈ossling, 2019). The largest source of individual emissions is
however yachts: Barros and Wilk (2021) estimate that close to two thirds
of the overall carbon footprint of those billionaires owning yachts is
caused by yacht-ownership.
This implies a contribution to climate
change that is up to 6500 times greater for these individuals than the
global average of 4.5 t CO2 per capita and year, or up to 300,000 times
greater than the contribution of the poorest, at 0.1 t CO2 per person and
year (The World Bank, 2022a)." (emphasis mine)

The point of having extra money is conspicuous consumption. If you got it, flaunt it.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
5. Wow. Did not realize that yachts put out that much carbon.
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 02:24 AM
Mar 2023

I think I've just conflated "yachts" with large sailing boats. Yachts are big carbon hogs.

The private aircraft carbon data is totally believable:
"On an average day, more than 200,000 flights take off and land across the world. -Aug 25, 2022"

The World's Flight Tracker radar:

https://www.flightradar24.com/



The most troubling aspect of the very affluent
is their stupid & very cavalier "I can afford it" attitude. Yes, I've seen it once up close and imagine many others here also have.



Thanks, orthoclad!


gulliver

(13,197 posts)
7. Bill Gates and his family probably have net negative carbon emission footprints
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:03 AM
Mar 2023

Criticism is fine, but we should never fail to acknowledge that Gates and others among the wealthy are also leaders in finding climate solutions.

madville

(7,412 posts)
8. I don't know if I buy that
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:22 AM
Mar 2023

Just what the world’s militaries and commercial airliners burn through, dwarfs the carbon directly attributed to people.

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
9. I think it's subtly telling us our carbon budget is way too small
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:27 AM
Mar 2023

If millionaires alone can burn through 2/3 of it, that implies that we're much closer to the edge than anyone wants to admit.

Not that our carbon budget has any basis in reality. We're already past 420 ppm, which is the highest in MILLIONS of years.

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