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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:00 AM Mar 2023

Oh FFS. I give up




Lawyer, fighter for democracy, advocate for innovators and creators. Prosecuted Trump University @ NY AG. Commentator @ MSNBC CNN.

BREAKING: Manhattan grand jury not meeting today. Indictment likely delayed until next week.

Yet this raises a possibility that Manhattan DA has been told to stand down — because DOJ could indict Trump on Mar-a-Lago documents as early as tomorrow.


I’m gonna get drunk this weekend after getting the pool and lanai ready for warm weather
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Oh FFS. I give up (Original Post) Roland99 Mar 2023 OP
My only consolation is this point is that Trump is sweating it a lot more than we are Walleye Mar 2023 #1
Yes! MLAA Mar 2023 #7
I doubt it Bettie Mar 2023 #9
I think that just getting indicted is a much bigger consequence than he has ever experienced Walleye Mar 2023 #12
We shall see if he gets indicted Bettie Mar 2023 #16
Who tells the DA to stand down? live love laugh Mar 2023 #2
DOJ? (Garland) Roland99 Mar 2023 #3
Oh fer Dawg's sakes. See my post downstream. DOJ has no authority over Manhattan DA. hlthe2b Mar 2023 #14
What bullshit, Lucy is holding another football for Charlie. dem4decades Mar 2023 #22
Oh we've got dozens of very naive people here who think he will face justice BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #33
Yeah, he's going to jail for sure now. Orange jumpsuit, perp walk, handcuffs sorry but who buys t dem4decades Mar 2023 #41
IF there were such a conspiracy... MissMillie Mar 2023 #18
I can't even really cilla4progress Mar 2023 #4
It's OK, get out of bed. newdayneeded Mar 2023 #36
thanks for the encouragement, cilla4progress Mar 2023 #40
Maybe Bragg's assertiveness has gotten the DOJ to pick up its pace on the documents case. John1956PA Mar 2023 #5
How wrong was the former guy? gratuitous Mar 2023 #6
Merry Fitzmas! Renew Deal Mar 2023 #8
I give up too maptap22 Mar 2023 #10
No, no, see, this time Lucy really is going to hold the football steady... Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #29
DOJ can request. They cannot DEMAND. Have people really forgotten the limitations of Federal hlthe2b Mar 2023 #11
Forgotton? inthewind21 Mar 2023 #17
Perhaps not the best word but "told" is diff from "demand" imo Roland99 Mar 2023 #20
It is another term for demand--implies authority over the situation which does not exist. hlthe2b Mar 2023 #24
I think if it were a GA or Federal indictment, I'd be on pins and needles too MissMillie Mar 2023 #13
True, I'm just happy the asshole is miserable at this point.His mobs and hordes aren't showing up Walleye Mar 2023 #23
Breaking news inthewind21 Mar 2023 #15
Random dude?? Roland99 Mar 2023 #19
And has tweeted false information at least twice this week alone. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #31
Yeah, he tweeted something ages ago, and I had never seen him before... Leghorn21 Mar 2023 #38
Yeah inthewind21 Mar 2023 #34
I hope that's the case. I also hope Bragg isn't backing down... brush Mar 2023 #21
The tweeter is just speculating I assume Takket Mar 2023 #25
I don't know who Tristan Snell is but... That is one massive leap Ohio Joe Mar 2023 #26
There is NO reason Bragg would be told to "stand down" brooklynite Mar 2023 #27
Oh, come on! Whoever Tristan Snell is, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about Ocelot II Mar 2023 #28
Tristan Snell appears to be tweeting out his ass Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #30
It is disheartening that people are willing to take seriously the pronouncements Ocelot II Mar 2023 #32
It's even worse, because he's not a rando Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #35
Seriously? Ocelot II Mar 2023 #37
Attention. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #42
It's more inthewind21 Mar 2023 #39

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
9. I doubt it
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:05 AM
Mar 2023

so far, he's never seen consequences for anything beyond a fine.

He very likely doesn't think he'll ever see any for anything.

He might be right; I hope he's wrong.

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
12. I think that just getting indicted is a much bigger consequence than he has ever experienced
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:07 AM
Mar 2023

I’m sure he never expected that the FBI would get a search warrant and come to Mar-a-Lago either. I’m sure he was counting on that they wouldn’t

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
16. We shall see if he gets indicted
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:10 AM
Mar 2023

still hoping for the best, but (mostly) prepared for him to skate on it all.

hlthe2b

(102,264 posts)
14. Oh fer Dawg's sakes. See my post downstream. DOJ has no authority over Manhattan DA.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:08 AM
Mar 2023

Request only.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
22. What bullshit, Lucy is holding another football for Charlie.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:13 AM
Mar 2023

Who the fuck believes that Trump isn't going to be indicted in NY because a "bigger indictment " is coming?

The guy is above the law.

BannonsLiver

(16,386 posts)
33. Oh we've got dozens of very naive people here who think he will face justice
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:08 PM
Mar 2023

And if you question it they get big mad. I’m sure the “stand down” theory fits in with their daily rationalizations that things are happening and all the doubters will get theirs…any day now. 🙄

MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
18. IF there were such a conspiracy...
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:11 AM
Mar 2023

(c'mon we really going to go down that road, like the RWNJs do?)

It would probably be NY Attorney General.

Honestly, with the goods she's got on TFG in her civil suit, do you really think she'd blow that to collude w/ anyone?

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
36. It's OK, get out of bed.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:14 PM
Mar 2023

In the end fuckhead lost the election, and I really think his chance of winning the next election are getting less. Cheer up!

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
5. Maybe Bragg's assertiveness has gotten the DOJ to pick up its pace on the documents case.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:03 AM
Mar 2023

Thanks for posting, and take care.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. How wrong was the former guy?
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:03 AM
Mar 2023

He sure had that totally messed up. Cried wolf again, no wolf again. One of these days the media will stop rising like so many brook trout to his baiting.

maptap22

(68 posts)
10. I give up too
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:05 AM
Mar 2023

I have lost all faith in our justice system. Definitely different rules for the rich and powerful (and white). Makes me incredibly sad.

hlthe2b

(102,264 posts)
11. DOJ can request. They cannot DEMAND. Have people really forgotten the limitations of Federal
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:06 AM
Mar 2023

authority? The Manhattan DA is NOT SDNY (Southern District of New York--part of DOJ). They are independent as are the other state/local jurisdictions.

Yes, DOJ can make requests. They can even pressure and try to manipulate or negotiate. But they cannot ORDER state and local AGs to stand down.

MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
13. I think if it were a GA or Federal indictment, I'd be on pins and needles too
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:08 AM
Mar 2023

But this one just feels like small potatoes to me.

It'll happen when it happens. Not much point in getting all worked up over stuff that isn't in your control.

(Of course, the same can be said about GA and Federal indictments.)

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
19. Random dude??
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:11 AM
Mar 2023

Lawyer, fighter for democracy, advocate for innovators and creators. Prosecuted Trump University @ NY AG. Commentator @ MSNBC CNN.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
38. Yeah, he tweeted something ages ago, and I had never seen him before...
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:18 PM
Mar 2023

- and whatever it was he tweeted was GREAT NEWS!! I was deliriously happy!!💥

But his “news” was also bogus, so I said bye Tristan, I hardly knew ye

Nope, no Tristan for me 👎

brush

(53,776 posts)
21. I hope that's the case. I also hope Bragg isn't backing down...
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:12 AM
Mar 2023

after all this hype on the Stormy Daniels payoff case.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
26. I don't know who Tristan Snell is but... That is one massive leap
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:15 AM
Mar 2023

With Corcoran is testifying tomorrow in the documents case and that has the potential to open up more to look at but... Even if it does not open up more, I've seen no indication Corcoran is the final witness. While I think they are close to done, I'd be surprised if they finished tomorrow. So... I don't buy this tweet one bit.

brooklynite

(94,547 posts)
27. There is NO reason Bragg would be told to "stand down"
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:16 AM
Mar 2023

Nothing he does would prevent an indictment by DOJ.

Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
28. Oh, come on! Whoever Tristan Snell is, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:18 AM
Mar 2023

because DoJ has no authority to tell the Manhattan DA to stand down. The federal and state systems are separate and independent, and DoJ can't and wouldn't interfere in any way with Bragg's case; there is NO possibility that is happening. Also, there are any number of entirely innocuous reasons why the grand jury isn't considering the case today. Grand juries are seated to hear more than one case at a time, and the delay could be related to another case and might involve nothing more sinister than somebody's scheduling conflict.

Get a grip, people.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
30. Tristan Snell appears to be tweeting out his ass
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:02 PM
Mar 2023

Is any other source independently (as opposed to retweeting Snell) reporting that DOJ is ready to indict tomorrow?

Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
32. It is disheartening that people are willing to take seriously the pronouncements
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

of some rando on Twitter. This numpty seems not to understand even the basic machinery of the federal vs. the state government, and so should not be trusted to deliver any credible information about these cases.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
35. It's even worse, because he's not a rando
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:10 PM
Mar 2023

Former NY prosecutor who now works for MSNBC, which explains why his tweets get any attention at all.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
39. It's more
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:20 PM
Mar 2023

than just disheartening. It's mind boggling. On a site where the media and social media is blamed for "misinformation" on a near constant basis. (Which I in no way deny that is accurate) We have Twitter splashed as a source at a minimum of 50 times a day. We have the cable news shows on a live comentary of Guest X said... and when ... doesn't happen, it's back to the "it's all the media's fault". It's an endless loop.

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