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What difference will Polish, Slovakian fighter jets make to Ukraine?
By James Black
Mar 23, 10:46 AM
The news that Poland and Slovakia are to deliver MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine some of which have reportedly arrived signals their departure from the long-standing stance of the international community, which had hitherto resisted Kyivs calls for more combat aircraft to help fight off Russias invasion. While this donation will be welcomed in Ukraine, it could raise political and practical issues the West must address to maximize the benefits and mitigate the risks of this latest move to bolster Ukraines defenses.
Poland is expected to deliver four MiG-29s and Slovakia has pledged 13 from its own inventory. This number is expected to include some that are no longer operational and thus would be cannibalized for spare parts, rather than donated in flying order.
Alone, these fighters will be useful to Ukraines Air Force, which currently has more pilots than working aircraft after a year of heavy losses. They will help to keep up air operations in the face of a persistent threat from Russian ground-based air defenses and combat aircraft, as well as to support any ground offensives the Ukrainians mount in the spring and summer.
But in current numbers, the envisaged donations will likely neither make a decisive battlefield impact nor fundamentally alter the strategic calculus or the imbalance between the sizes of the Russian and Ukrainian air forces. Instead, the biggest immediate impact of this decision is political.
The willingness to break ranks from the previous consensus against donating fighters underscores the influential role that Poland, Slovakia and other smaller NATO front-line states have played in driving international support for Ukraine. Though the largest donor of military aid is, by a huge margin, the United States, followed by the U.K., many of the Eastern European states have been giving a much larger portion of aid as a percentage of their respective gross domestic product. This reflects how seriously they take the Russian threat as well as their solidarity with Ukrainians, with whom Eastern European countries have especially close social, cultural and economic ties.
Conveniently, these countries have stockpiles of old Soviet-designed equipment types already used by the Ukrainians and thus can be quickly put into service.
https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/commentary/2023/03/23/what-difference-will-polish-slovakian-fighter-jets-make-to-ukraine/
brewens
(13,631 posts)drones especially. Just knowing they are patrolling might keep a lot of the Russian helicopter away.
No surrender.
I am humbled by their courage.
Wounded Bear
(58,737 posts)on the battlefield. Frankly, from what I've read, the training and experience of the Russian pilots is not that good, so well trained aviators in these earlier generation fighters could make a significant difference.
orangecrush
(19,643 posts)What a determined man could do with 3 rounds and an obsolete bolt action rifle...
Model35mech
(1,562 posts)Indeed, the Baltic states and Poland are far more uncomfortable with Russia's aggression than the rest of Nato.
Showing it can be done, is in Russian eyes a significant escalation, if it doesn't trigger nuclear war the character of support for Ukraine could change.
orangecrush
(19,643 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Both Russia's fighter aircraft and Ukraine's Russian/Soviet made aircraft are highly vulnerable to anti-aircraft defense systems.
Russia has not failed to gain "air superiority" because of the might of UKR's air force.
The Biden Administration in consult with top military have been very wise about which weapons to send to Ukraine, and when. I'd have preferred more anti-aircraft/anti-missile systems coming in sooner and in larger numbers, but considering cost and benefit, conventional aircraft are a low yielding weapons system, and the Biden Administration understands this.
The biggest positive is morale-boosting and political signaling, but what UKR forces needs are the weapons and supplies to push Russian troops back and to defend their population. Jets are not their crucial need.
orangecrush
(19,643 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Far more critical than jets at this juncture.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)Then again, Russia's vaunted air power has been a no show for much of the conflict, outside of occasional standoff missions from Russian territory. Thus, the reliance on cruise and ballistic missiles. Neither side can do proper SEAD and DEAD (see Desert Storm). Ukraine doesn't have the assets or trained pilots. Russia doesn't have the capability even with all its aircraft due to piss poor coordination and poorly trained pilots.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)I just don't really understand it. But I'm not an expert.