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imanamerican63

(16,175 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:08 PM Mar 2023

DA Bragg is 1000% percent right!

The GOBers are meddling in his investigation while he is doing his job involving Trump and his hush money case!


But they meddle is everything they do! It’s who they are!

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DA Bragg is 1000% percent right! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Mar 2023 OP
Maybe a good time to post this old rhyme: Baked Potato Mar 2023 #1
Okay, on that he's 1000% right, I'm still waiting for the rest. dem4decades Mar 2023 #2
Meddling? More like Interfering in an investigation, Captain Zero Mar 2023 #3
I believe Glen Kirschner addresses that BOSSHOG Mar 2023 #5
How? Igel Mar 2023 #4
And if Bragg or some other DA is shot because of this "meddling", that won't matter? Ferrets are Cool Mar 2023 #6
I think Andrew Weissman reminded Jarqui Mar 2023 #7

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
1. Maybe a good time to post this old rhyme:
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:22 PM
Mar 2023
Bullet, the Rally Streaker

Orangie Blowhard bows his head
Just in time to miss the lead
Bullet hero whizzing by
Someone go and grab that guy!
Turn him round in time to see
Crazy dude in MAGA tee
Him eyes looking Charlie M
Crazy just like rest of them
Orangie say we have to see
Maybe him was loving me
Say fine people both the side
But I think I run and hide
Maybe someone up above
Try to show some country love
Next time aim a little low
So we see that pumpkin blow!



Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
3. Meddling? More like Interfering in an investigation,
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:56 PM
Mar 2023
isn't it?

There really should be a law about interfering in a criminal investigation.


Seems like it to me.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
5. I believe Glen Kirschner addresses that
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:49 PM
Mar 2023

In a recent video. Mundane stuff like the 10th amendment which Jordan doesn’t know exists.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
4. How?
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:41 PM
Mar 2023

The (R) House chair has spoken, but why does that matter?

Jury's empaneled. Authority's granted. The jury will do what it wants, Bragg does what he wants.

Now, if jurors or the DA are prone to saying, "What *will* they think of me!?" it's an issue. Otherwise, huh?

Ferrets are Cool

(22,956 posts)
6. And if Bragg or some other DA is shot because of this "meddling", that won't matter?
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:54 PM
Mar 2023

There are crazy people out there. Hell, some even crazy enough to attempt an insurrection or try to kidnap a sitting governor. These idiots, the repugs, need to STFU.

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
7. I think Andrew Weissman reminded
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:24 PM
Mar 2023

that it was Bragg who came into the job at the end of 2021 and put the brakes on.
He didn't feel the case was strong enough.
Some prosecutors didn't agree and resigned.
SDNY disagreed on it after Biden was sworn in.
If Bragg was doing it for political points, he could have jumped right in in Jan 2022.

But there were developments since Bragg took over from Vance:
They deposed Trump and son Eric - 400+ times each they cited the 5th amendment
They convicted Trump CFO Weisselberg and the Trump org of fraud and tax evasion - so they pulled those cases together and gather knowledge and evidence.
AG James sued Trump & Orgs - Manhattan DA office helped her and she helped them. And she made criminal fraud and tax referrals ...
The FBI listed docs in their Aug 2022 raid in Oct manifest that Trump had been subpoenaed for by AG James
The Trump tax returns got released
etc

A bunch of new information (evidence) came to light since Bragg took over.

One of the things, they found more evidence that contradicted Weisselberg:
Former Trump Executive, Already Jailed, Could Face More Fraud Charges
Manhattan prosecutors warned that they might charge Allen H. Weisselberg with insurance fraud to pressure him to cooperate in an investigation of the former president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/nyregion/trump-weisselberg-fraud.html

Weisselberg was involved in the Stormy Daniels payments.
Cohen had lied at the outset and been convicted of a number of crimes so relying too much on him was problematic for beyond reasonable doubt.
The timing of the above article and the reconvening of the Grand Jury were days apart.
So maybe something happened there.

I don't know if they flipped Weisselberg or not.
But the case would be stronger with him.
Or possibly it was other evidence they found ... or both.

Some say the prosecutors book pressured Bragg. If anything, I think it hurt their case. It told Trump's lawyers what they had and didn't have and gave them material to defend Trump - the issues they debated internally would be their vulnerable areas.

Giuliani lawyer Costello appeared before the Grand Jury at Trump's lawyer's request. He wanted to destroy Cohen's credibility. They had him confirm six emails - some that were of a tampering nature that he had sent. He questioned why they didn't look at his other 300 emails. So that might be giving the Grand Jury pause.

I've debated this case a lot with a prosecutor. I'd like to see Trump prosecuted for this even though it is not his worst crime. The prosecutor is against it being the first case. I don't think it matters because they're likely to overlap. If we don't want this behavior in the future, they can discourage it with a conviction or even getting close to a conviction.

I thought this made a fair argument:
Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to subvert democracy
Despite what Republicans would have you believe, it matters.
https://aaronrupar.substack.com/p/trump-stormy-daniels-hush-payment-why-it-matters

Trump’s use of influence, connections, and cash to silence his accusers had a material effect on the success of his nomination and his candidacy. Democracy depends on an informed public. When powerful people use that power to silence their critics, they are deliberately interfering with and corrupting the democratic process. The Stormy Daniels payment was a small but vital part of Trump’s authoritarian project.


With Trump threatening Bragg today, the Rolling Stone article and with Trump back to trying to incite violence like he did Jan 6th, I hope they nail him.
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