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Jon Huntsman new Secretary of State?? (Original Post) center rising Nov 2012 OP
interesting chemp Nov 2012 #1
Yup. Kerry first. earthside Nov 2012 #6
That, I like! MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #10
No to Kerry.. Scott Brown comes right back to the Senate SoCalDem Nov 2012 #12
Leaving his senate seat in Massachusetts PatSeg Nov 2012 #16
Are you serious? I live in Massachusetts. I don't want an expensive election, the third in 2 years, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #32
I'd say he'd be next most qualified MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #2
Sounds good to me! quinnox Nov 2012 #3
I am thinking no... GitRDun Nov 2012 #4
You're assuming PatSeg Nov 2012 #18
Yes you are right GitRDun Nov 2012 #31
I feel badly for people like Huntsman PatSeg Nov 2012 #34
I am as partisan and lefty a Democrat as there is and hifiguy Nov 2012 #36
I guess the one candidate PatSeg Nov 2012 #41
He's eminently qualified but.... Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #5
You think Huntsman would do what it takes to get the republican nomination? sadbear Nov 2012 #9
I might be good with him if he jumped parties before he was appointed Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #17
If he's SOS he can't run in 2016. Barack_America Nov 2012 #26
I thought that was just for Secretary of Defense Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #29
You can't be both in Iowa and all over the globe. Barack_America Nov 2012 #35
No. calico1 Nov 2012 #7
I'd support it tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #8
NEVER. It must be someone who thinks like Obama flamingdem Nov 2012 #11
There Aren't That Many Differences In Foreign Policy... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #23
Doubt they could risk including a Republican in such a sensitive post flamingdem Nov 2012 #30
He is someone who I believe should be in the Administration hifiguy Nov 2012 #38
Not actually a horrible idea scheming daemons Nov 2012 #13
I'm leery of Republicans, no matter how moderate. CurtEastPoint Nov 2012 #14
Hogwash. moondust Nov 2012 #15
Hell to the no. Fuck Republican Presidential Candidate Huntsman emulatorloo Nov 2012 #19
No Thank You! DearHeart Nov 2012 #20
he's one of the few sane republicans and he's qualified liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #21
No. Why help him in a future Presidential mzmolly Nov 2012 #22
Why beat the TeaPubliKlans if we want to appoint them to top positions TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #24
This guys isn't exactly a teabagger. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #28
I had no love not patience for TeaPubliKlans before the Tea crap either. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #48
Absolutely! He's qualified and it would destroy a 2016 run. Barack_America Nov 2012 #25
how would it destroy a 2016 run...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #45
Huntsman is coming back to the administration? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #27
No thanks. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #33
Blech. Make him go away. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #37
Ask yourself: would a Pres. Romney have appointed a Democrat to SOS? Bake Nov 2012 #39
I'd prefer not appointing somebody from the Senate who is a Dem WI_DEM Nov 2012 #40
WHAT? Are we appeasing again? MyNameGoesHere Nov 2012 #42
Screw Huntsman. At least Colin Powell endorsed President Obama. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #43
+1 woolldog Nov 2012 #46
why should we set him up for a potus run in 2016...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #44
Put a Republican in as SOS Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #47

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. Yup. Kerry first.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:52 PM
Nov 2012

But I have to say that on first blush, appointing Huntsman could be a very bold move.

It would further marginalize the extremist Repuglicans and Teabaggers ... and be a interesting overture to Mormons. That kind of move is what will make the Democrats a dominate political party for a generation.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
12. No to Kerry.. Scott Brown comes right back to the Senate
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nov 2012

and kerry's painfully plodding, pedantic mannerisms & speech would bore the rest of the world to death..

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
16. Leaving his senate seat in Massachusetts
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nov 2012

is scary to me right now. Would we see another Scott Brown? We need every vote we can get in the senate.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
32. Are you serious? I live in Massachusetts. I don't want an expensive election, the third in 2 years,
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

that Scott Brown could well win because he is better positioned than any democrat but our Governor, may be. Fuck that. People wanting Kerry as SOS need to use their fucking heads, we need as big a Senate majority as possible with the fights that are coming up the we have to win.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
4. I am thinking no...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

Tell me what you all think but I think it would be bad strategy to give one of the few relatively sane Republicans a post that would boost their viability in 2016....especially if Hillary is the party's choice.

I could be wrong, just my opinion.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
18. You're assuming
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
Nov 2012

that the Republican party will get a clue and nominate a sane, viable candidate in four years. I suppose it is possible, but I think it will take longer than four years to whip that dysfunctional party into shape.

Meanwhile, republicans won't trust anyone who works with/for this administration. They are too small minded for that. We saw how they treated Huntsman during the primaries.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
31. Yes you are right
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

I am assuming that over four years, some sanity is restored over there...I figured that would be a conservative position to take in making an appointment now. You may be right and in four years they've learned nothing. In that case it wouldn't matter.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
34. I feel badly for people like Huntsman
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

and Colin Powell. They are basically conservative, but the republican party isn't conservative anymore, they're reactionary. I have to wonder if Jon Huntsman really voted for Mitt Romney. Old school republicans just don't fit in anywhere these days. I appreciate a sane, intelligent conservative, but they are an endangered species these days.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. I am as partisan and lefty a Democrat as there is and
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:34 PM
Nov 2012

I agree. Jon Huntsman was the one and only sane and responsible adult in a room filled with bug-eaters, duck-fuckers, loony theocrats and used-car salesmen. He would have been a very formidable challenger to President Obama. And the Repukes treated him like a stray dog that crapped in the living room. Certainly I do not agree with him on many, many things and would not have voted for him, but he was something of a throwback to the days when there were moderate, reality-based people in the Republican Party with whom one could reasonably disagree in a civil fashion.

I am getting old. I remember Republicans like Chuck Percy, Nelson Rockefeller, Ed Brooke, Howard Baker, Gerry Ford and in my state of Minnesota, Arne Carlson and David Durenberger.

Until the Repukes abandon paleolithic theology, racism, xenophobia and rabid sexism they don't stand a chance in a national race.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
41. I guess the one candidate
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

that really made the Obama camp nervous was Jon Huntsman.

I remember some of those Republicans as well, especially Chuck Percy because we lived in Illinois. There was a time when I could have healthy, invigorating debates with republicans. I usually didn't agree with them, but they made intelligent, informed points.

If someone like Jon Huntsman had won, I would have been very disappointed, but I wouldn't have been scared to death. I think he would have been a moderate and sane president.

Love your descriptions of the Republican candidates!!! Bug-eaters and duck-fuckers............

Brother Buzz

(36,449 posts)
5. He's eminently qualified but....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

the appointment could be a stepping stone to the White House. I'm conflicted on this.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
9. You think Huntsman would do what it takes to get the republican nomination?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

If I were a betting man, I'd say the chances of him switching parties is greater than the chances of him getting the republican nomination. He's just too sane and reasonable for that base. And as we have seen with Christie, working with President Obama is a black mark for those people.

Brother Buzz

(36,449 posts)
17. I might be good with him if he jumped parties before he was appointed
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Nov 2012

That would burn the bridge to my satisfaction.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
26. If he's SOS he can't run in 2016.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
Nov 2012

He'd have to wait another 8 years until our next Dem President is gone.

Brother Buzz

(36,449 posts)
29. I thought that was just for Secretary of Defense
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:10 PM
Nov 2012

I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
35. You can't be both in Iowa and all over the globe.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012

It's a practical consideration. SOS is a job that doesn't leave time for much else.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
8. I'd support it
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

This would instantly make him a credible figure among Americans and could lead to him being seen as a Republican leader of sorts. It could have the effect of moving the Republicans towards the center, and moving American politics overall more to the left.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
23. There Aren't That Many Differences In Foreign Policy...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

...Huntsman served as President Obama's Ambassador to China and already has served in this administration. Not such a far-fetched idea at all and would keep Huntsman from organizing for 2016 (not that he stands any better chance then than he does now with such an unhinged party). I'm not sure I'm on board with him being SOS but bringing him back in some capacity might not be a bad idea...the fact he served in the Obama administration was a big liability when he tried running last year.

flamingdem

(39,314 posts)
30. Doubt they could risk including a Republican in such a sensitive post
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:10 PM
Nov 2012

I thought it would be Kerry, top of the tops for that role

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. He is someone who I believe should be in the Administration
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:36 PM
Nov 2012

somewhere. Not necessarily as SOS, but something cabinet level. One of the few sane Repubs deserves some small reward for his sanity.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
24. Why beat the TeaPubliKlans if we want to appoint them to top positions
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
Nov 2012

and implement their policies.

Nice seeming guy but he can work on reforming his party on his own, our job is their annihilation not to rehab them.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
48. I had no love not patience for TeaPubliKlans before the Tea crap either.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012

George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan weren't Teabaggers either and I don't define "moderation" as funneling wealth to the top, starving education, throwing our seniors into the street, slave wages, strip-mining the country for the profits of a few, telling sick children to eat shit and die, setting up military adventures to turn a buck, taking over the commons to get over, and shitting on those in poverty.

"Not hard right" = not an openly bigoted theocrat that yells crazy racist shit or talks up the godly virtues of rape.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
39. Ask yourself: would a Pres. Romney have appointed a Democrat to SOS?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:36 PM
Nov 2012

Hell no. Which is exactly what I say to this suggestion. Hell no.

Bake

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
40. I'd prefer not appointing somebody from the Senate who is a Dem
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:37 PM
Nov 2012

such as Kerry. We need to keep as many of our Senators as possible. We can't depend that in a special election that a Dem will automatically be elected.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
43. Screw Huntsman. At least Colin Powell endorsed President Obama.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

Just because he didn't say stupid crap like the rest of the repubs, he still has most of the repub beliefs.

Screw him.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
47. Put a Republican in as SOS
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:38 PM
Nov 2012

So we can blame the next terrorist attack on a consulate on them. They want to play that way? f 'em.

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