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allegorical oracle

(6,466 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:05 PM Mar 2023

Waco Rally Turning into Absolute Disaster

Ahead of the rally, Texas newspaper The Houston Chronicle published a scathing editorial that suggests it is not a coincidence that Trump is appearing in Waco for the first time just days after calling for his supporters to protest his apparent upcoming indictment.

Since the deadly 1993 siege involving members of David Koresh's Branch Davidian cult and the FBI ended in a huge fire at the Mount Carmel Center, the Waco massacre has been seen as a symbol of government overreach.

Trump and other Republicans say that any arrest of the former president would be proof of the "weaponization" of the federal government by the Biden administration and claim that criminal investigations into him are politically motivated.

"Trump doesn't do subtle; dog-whistle messages are not his style," The Chronicle editorial board wrote. "The more apt metaphor is the blaring air horn of a Mack 18-wheeler barreling down I-10."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-waco-rally-texas-siege-arrest-1790163

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Waco Rally Turning into Absolute Disaster (Original Post) allegorical oracle Mar 2023 OP
I'm really starting to think this one was intentional. Initech Mar 2023 #1
He's going full-on Jullian Assange and will be carried out kicking and screaming. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #5
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flees to Russia to avoid prosecution! Initech Mar 2023 #8
If he tried to leave in his own plane it is easy as hell to keep that from happening. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #16
I vote for dumpsters...... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #46
Chained them. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #49
Even a Tug would do the trick A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #56
He ain't going to Russia sdfernando Mar 2023 #61
I would be very, very surprised if Trump fled to Russia. Trump is not a person who can survive Martin68 Mar 2023 #81
Plus he wouldn't be welcomed, since Putin got everything out of him already housecat Mar 2023 #83
No, Putin would love to embarrass the US by giving Trump asylum. That doesn't mean Martin68 Mar 2023 #84
Exile him to Mississippi COL Mustard Mar 2023 #90
the Ecuadorian embassy is open treestar Mar 2023 #76
I've thought so from the get-go. He wants violence and destruction, just like his pal Bannon. Hekate Mar 2023 #10
I threw out the idea of a perp walk long ago. Initech Mar 2023 #12
Trump? Straw Man Mar 2023 #24
He won't be the one who will carry out the violence. Initech Mar 2023 #35
For half a decade homegirl Mar 2023 #37
If he flees to Russia, Putin would use him to wnylib Mar 2023 #52
This x 1000. He is too huge a coward to do anything himself. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2023 #43
i want him to be led out with wet pants samnsara Mar 2023 #41
He wants the media circus. Initech Mar 2023 #45
Marching orders begin with sending money central scrutinizer Mar 2023 #73
his nappy will prevent the wet stains Celerity Mar 2023 #47
Sorry, but if 'that pic' happens........ MyOwnPeace Mar 2023 #53
Runner? More Like A WADDLER! nt smb Mar 2023 #58
lol Celerity Mar 2023 #65
magats protecting him at a ranch treestar Mar 2023 #77
Still think that Bannon is TFG's brain. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #66
Bannon is a sewer with a high IQ, 100% anti-democratic. You could well be right. Hekate Mar 2023 #71
I wonder, if Trump Dan Mar 2023 #79
Oh hell yeah it was! Roland99 Mar 2023 #62
Several Tx Repugs are 'busy' that day!! ........so will not be attending as speakers. riversedge Mar 2023 #2
Agree with Meeks. The city takes two steps forward and Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #25
Yes. A city had to agree. calimary Mar 2023 #70
Davidians were a pedophile cult. Every adult in there was an accessory to child rape in my brewens Mar 2023 #3
Not just that, but Koresh's followers considered him a Jebus figure. A Messiah thingy. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #69
A cult centered on a narcissistic leader, who self-destructed and took a lot of Gaugamela Mar 2023 #4
When they show you what they are, believe them! True Blue American Mar 2023 #30
A cult centered on a narcissistic leader, who self-destructed and took a lot of sycophants, Comfortably_Numb Mar 2023 #6
I watched a couple of documentaries newdayneeded Mar 2023 #44
Definitely not a coincidence. moondust Mar 2023 #7
shithole and his cult, including the GQP politicians ................... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #9
"As well as the looming indictment and controversy about the location and date of the rally, Trump's lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #11
Mary Trump has it right Wednesdays Mar 2023 #13
Use a throwaway email account. I signed up for tickets for a Hillary event years ago and I liberal_mama Mar 2023 #15
You got that right. Phone number, too. Wednesdays Mar 2023 #20
A confirmation SMS will be sent to your phone. You will not be registered until you verify by phone. Ford_Prefect Mar 2023 #55
i got mine yesterday and the text today about the venue. Its first come first serve and.. samnsara Mar 2023 #42
Just did! Wild blueberry Mar 2023 #57
WACO: get the money upfront! LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #14
They did. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2023 #17
I wouldn't take a check. louis-t Mar 2023 #33
Holy crap Farmer-Rick Mar 2023 #19
DC may still want him to be there...... MyOwnPeace Mar 2023 #48
Recently read that he still owes Palm Beach for officer overtime to control traffic for his allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #82
Mary Trump said to get tickets to this shitshow and then don't show. A sea of empty seats. OMGWTF Mar 2023 #18
See my post #13 for more info. nt Wednesdays Mar 2023 #21
Seats? Isn't it an outdoor event at the airport? wnylib Mar 2023 #50
Is There A Four Seasons Total Landscaping In Waco? Asking For A Friend.... nt smb Mar 2023 #60
Sorry, but at this point..... MyOwnPeace Mar 2023 #51
Murdoch and Fox created this monster. SayItLoud Mar 2023 #22
Mark Burnett created him. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #28
The monster was already there. Murdoch and Fox cashed in on it Kaleva Mar 2023 #63
Trump is wanting to go out like David Koresh. Emile Mar 2023 #23
Or Jim Jones. nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2023 #27
No way. Not that coward. He loves himself way tooooo much. efhmc Mar 2023 #39
I've never thought of tRump as physically brave, Hortensis Mar 2023 #26
Careful Houton! The Repugs will build a wall around your fair city to keep your blueness flashman13 Mar 2023 #29
A judge needs cannabis_flower Mar 2023 #31
Branch Davidian another cult that defied all suboenas bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #32
Gee, maybe WACO will be remembered for 2 disasters. louis-t Mar 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 2023 #68
Just to point out: dog-whistle messages are totally his style, as is the Mack truck metaphor. NullTuples Mar 2023 #36
Of course it's not a coincidence, it's sending a message. nt Raine Mar 2023 #38
i ordered two free tix :) and just got my instructions about where to park etc... samnsara Mar 2023 #40
I thought it was going to be outdoors. wnylib Mar 2023 #54
Man! I don't wanna get texts from Trump LeftInTX Mar 2023 #72
Hey, if they want to end up like the Koresh and his merry band, that's fine with me. paleotn Mar 2023 #59
I hope that no one is trying to sabotage this event LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 2023 #67
Heeeeeere's Timmy! moondust Mar 2023 #74
Aww, gee, what a nice all-American boy. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #85
I saw people reserving tickets (which won't be used)... Cracklin Charlie Mar 2023 #75
$20 bucks says Trump will praise David Koresh & the Branch Davidians in his speech ZonkerHarris Mar 2023 #78
His maghat minions do not have a clue randr Mar 2023 #80
Just finished the Netflix doc on Waco kimbutgar Mar 2023 #86
The cult comparison hits the nail on the head randr Mar 2023 #87
In the past, it has been claimed that Trump would not pay for the police support & rent of stadiums 40RatRod Mar 2023 #88
What time does this cult meeting start? Emile Mar 2023 #89

A HERETIC I AM

(24,875 posts)
16. If he tried to leave in his own plane it is easy as hell to keep that from happening.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:17 PM
Mar 2023

Just park a pickup truck or anything reasonably heavy in front of the nose wheel and behind one or both of the main landing gear.

That 757 wouldn't be going anywhere.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,875 posts)
56. Even a Tug would do the trick
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:59 PM
Mar 2023



Or better yet, just drop a couple of these in the right spots around the plane and be done with it.

sdfernando

(6,084 posts)
61. He ain't going to Russia
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 05:14 PM
Mar 2023

Putzler has no use for mango mussolini. He'd end up as something you needed to scrape off the sidewalk next to a tall building.

Martin68

(27,682 posts)
81. I would be very, very surprised if Trump fled to Russia. Trump is not a person who can survive
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:26 AM
Mar 2023

outside the US - or even outside either Florida or New York. He has no interest in other cultures, and would die of misery if he was a deprived of his Big Macs, Diet Coke (or is it Pepsi?), his golf courses, and his hordes of fanatical followers.

Martin68

(27,682 posts)
84. No, Putin would love to embarrass the US by giving Trump asylum. That doesn't mean
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:13 PM
Mar 2023

Trump would live in luxury. Give him a small apartment in some rural city.

COL Mustard

(8,196 posts)
90. Exile him to Mississippi
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:06 PM
Mar 2023

To the parts that got hit by the tornado yesterday.

Then again, cruel and unusual to punish those people like that.

Instead, send him someplace where he can only get knock-off Diet Coke. Yuk.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
10. I've thought so from the get-go. He wants violence and destruction, just like his pal Bannon.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:43 PM
Mar 2023

Anyway, as much as we’d all love to see the perp-walk with cuffs, ushering him in the back door of the jail or courthouse seems wisest — at a time determined by the judge and not announced to the public.

Initech

(108,700 posts)
12. I threw out the idea of a perp walk long ago.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:49 PM
Mar 2023

I called back in like 2020 that if he goes, he's going to go out in a fiery blaze of glory, like David Koresh did. When I saw the news of the Waco announcement, I started laughing so damn hard because this is exactly what I predicted!

Straw Man

(6,943 posts)
24. Trump?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:42 PM
Mar 2023
I called back in like 2020 that if he goes, he's going to go out in a fiery blaze of glory, like David Koresh did.

He's far too cowardly for anything like that. It's true that he craves violence and destruction, but he wants to watch it on TV from a safe distance.

If it looks like he's going to do any real time, he will bolt. He will run like a rabbit to anyplace that will shelter him. Maybe Russia.

Initech

(108,700 posts)
35. He won't be the one who will carry out the violence.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:16 PM
Mar 2023

He's got his own personal army in the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to do that for him.

homegirl

(1,964 posts)
37. For half a decade
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:30 PM
Mar 2023

I have predicted that Donald will flee to extradition free Russia. He will be welcomed, feted, even a few medals. What an achievement for Putin --a former POTUS flees to Russia. But Donald being Donald cannot be happy and content without massive amounts of media attention and will not recede into the woodwork. His attention seeking does not go well with Putin, Donald slips off a 6th floor balcony. THE END.

wnylib

(25,931 posts)
52. If he flees to Russia, Putin would use him to
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:56 PM
Mar 2023

keep divisions stirred up in the US and to push propaganda that the MAGA cult will eagerly embrace.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,947 posts)
43. This x 1000. He is too huge a coward to do anything himself.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:40 PM
Mar 2023

IF he can use others, yes, but he will NEVER do anything dangerous to himself.

Initech

(108,700 posts)
45. He wants the media circus.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:42 PM
Mar 2023

So he can give his brain dead followers their marching orders. I say we don't give it to him.

Celerity

(54,336 posts)
47. his nappy will prevent the wet stains
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:49 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Fri Mar 24, 2023, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)

would love him to try and do a runner on live telly



MyOwnPeace

(17,546 posts)
53. Sorry, but if 'that pic' happens........
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:57 PM
Mar 2023

as 'Sanford' would have said: "It's the BIG ONE!!!!"

Celerity

(54,336 posts)
65. lol
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 06:01 PM
Mar 2023
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Dan

(5,155 posts)
79. I wonder, if Trump
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:50 AM
Mar 2023

Will spill the beans on all the GOP members that enabled him and ultimately didn’t stop justice from happening. I also wonder what does he know about the various GOP members - that they are so afraid of - that they continue to support him. That aside from the MAGA base….

riversedge

(80,744 posts)
2. Several Tx Repugs are 'busy' that day!! ........so will not be attending as speakers.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:13 PM
Mar 2023


It is reported that Trump is also struggling to get GOP figures to appear as a guest speakers at the Waco rally amid suggestions the New York grand jury are gearing up to vote on whether to indict the former president in the coming days.

The names of other speakers in Waco have still not been confirmed by Trump's team, but several Texas Republicans have confirmed they will not be attending.

Aides for Rep. Troy Nehls, who has endorsed Trump for 2024, told Insider he cannot attend the rally as he has an engagement in Washington D.C. that day.

Rep. Pete Sessions, a Waco native, also has prior engagements on March 25, with Rep. Michael McCaul, and state GOP chairman Matt Rinaldi also saying they are unable to attend.

Waco Mayor Dillon Meek, will be another absentee as he is attending a centennial banquet for the 10th Court of Appeals on Saturday. He expressed concern that the event will once again highlight the Branch Davidian tragedy that the local community has spent decades striving to move on from..........................
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Agree with Meeks. The city takes two steps forward and
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:44 PM
Mar 2023

then something happens and it goes two steps back. It's way too red for me and we're leaving but do hate that he's tarnishing the place more than it has to be. Although city had to agree right??

calimary

(89,951 posts)
70. Yes. A city had to agree.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 06:46 PM
Mar 2023

And that city’s officials had to be either all in or willing to keep silent as long as they could keep their heads down til (they think) it’s safe to reappear. After the heat’s died down and most of the crowd’s dispersed or somewhere in custody.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
3. Davidians were a pedophile cult. Every adult in there was an accessory to child rape in my
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:15 PM
Mar 2023

book.

Gaugamela

(3,495 posts)
4. A cult centered on a narcissistic leader, who self-destructed and took a lot of
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:15 PM
Mar 2023

innocent lives with him.

Trump is showing us who he is.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
6. A cult centered on a narcissistic leader, who self-destructed and took a lot of sycophants,
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:24 PM
Mar 2023

lawyers, and enablers with him, not to mention the simps who did his bidding at the capitol. Hard to feel sorry for the trumpvidians.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
44. I watched a couple of documentaries
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:41 PM
Mar 2023

on Waco, I absolutely couldn't believe he convinced them to only let him have sex with their wives. How sick could those people be?

moondust

(21,284 posts)
7. Definitely not a coincidence.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:32 PM
Mar 2023

No accident that it's the 30th anniversary of the siege there.

How many of his new Branch Davidian cult will show up? With their guns?

Lovie777

(22,936 posts)
9. shithole and his cult, including the GQP politicians ...................
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:42 PM
Mar 2023

are welcoming total terrorism against Americans.

lindysalsagal

(22,903 posts)
11. "As well as the looming indictment and controversy about the location and date of the rally, Trump's
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:49 PM
Mar 2023
in Waco could also be hindered by a lack of guest speakers and a sabotage attempt from a member of his own family.

The names of other speakers in Waco have still not been confirmed by Trump's team, but several Texas Republicans have confirmed they will not be attending.

Aides for Rep. Troy Nehls, who has endorsed Trump for 2024, told Insider he cannot attend the rally as he has an engagement in Washington D.C. that day.

Rep. Pete Sessions, a Waco native, also has prior engagements on March 25, with Rep. Michael McCaul, and state GOP chairman Matt Rinaldi also saying they are unable to attend."

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
15. Use a throwaway email account. I signed up for tickets for a Hillary event years ago and I
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:08 PM
Mar 2023

still get constant fundraising emails. They sell the lists to everyone. Both parties. I imagine being on Trump's list would be worse though. He'd be begging for money every 10 minutes.

Wednesdays

(22,551 posts)
20. You got that right. Phone number, too.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:33 PM
Mar 2023

I imagine any phone number submitted will be bombarded with text messages and robo calls, begging for money.

Ford_Prefect

(8,608 posts)
55. A confirmation SMS will be sent to your phone. You will not be registered until you verify by phone.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:58 PM
Mar 2023

Could be easier said than done, no?

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
42. i got mine yesterday and the text today about the venue. Its first come first serve and..
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:37 PM
Mar 2023

..can get two tix each.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,152 posts)
17. They did.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:28 PM
Mar 2023
City officials said the Trump campaign has already paid the city in advance for use of the airport at 7909 Karl May Drive, security, and traffic-related costs.

“Donald J. Trump for President 2024, Inc. was billed $60,714.27 for city services. This has been paid,” the city told KWTX.

https://www.kwtx.com/2023/03/23/city-waco-releases-traffic-plan-trump-campaigns-visit-saturday/

But if I were them, I'd still want to make sure the check clears...

Farmer-Rick

(12,641 posts)
19. Holy crap
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:33 PM
Mar 2023

He owes $9 million to Washington DC and well over $500,000 to El Paso. And cities still want him to come?

allegorical oracle

(6,466 posts)
82. Recently read that he still owes Palm Beach for officer overtime to control traffic for his
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

motorcades to his golf course and the PB airport.

OMGWTF

(5,130 posts)
18. Mary Trump said to get tickets to this shitshow and then don't show. A sea of empty seats.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:31 PM
Mar 2023

Might just be enough to make this malignant misanthrope meltdown.

wnylib

(25,931 posts)
50. Seats? Isn't it an outdoor event at the airport?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:52 PM
Mar 2023

People will stand or bring their own chairs, I think.

MyOwnPeace

(17,546 posts)
51. Sorry, but at this point.....
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:54 PM
Mar 2023

there is NOTHING that will make this ______, _______, ______, ______, (go ahead, pick your own words - here's mine..) ignorant mother-fucker melt down!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,875 posts)
28. Mark Burnett created him.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:47 PM
Mar 2023

Trumpy was reportedly about to file personal bankruptcy just before "The Apprentice" came along. The idea that he is some successful business man with a knack for everything is a myth entirely created and promoted by Burnett.

And a shitload of gullible Americans bought it hook, line and sinker.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. I've never thought of tRump as physically brave,
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:44 PM
Mar 2023

and way too soon to be suicidal. (I admit his trying to force the driver to head to the Capitol on J6 was a surprise to me.)

It seems obvious that he chose Waco as an obvious PR/incitement stunt because the Branch Davidian event is a big deal to the anti-government far right, including DVE. Timothy McVeigh cited it as a main reason for Oklahoma, it's big to the militia movement, etc. He's trying to inflame civil unrest by equating what the evil Democratic government is doing "to" him with how they view Waco. Including that Koresh's followers resisted (to the death as it turned out, whether they intended that or not) to save their leader from arrest.

If more came out of it (very unlikely), this psychopath (I believe -- how many more than a million dead Americans, as well as permanently traumatized children, do we need?) would only count the bodies for what they say about devotion to HIM.

But he would be elsewhere, plotting next moves depending on results.

He's going to be disappointed in them.

flashman13

(2,378 posts)
29. Careful Houton! The Repugs will build a wall around your fair city to keep your blueness
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:56 PM
Mar 2023

from running all over the rest of the state. Austin, you be careful too. (WARNING Sarcasm in use)

louis-t

(24,614 posts)
34. Gee, maybe WACO will be remembered for 2 disasters.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mar 2023

tfg wants people dead. The lawsuits aren't working. The threats and intimidation aren't working.
Stamping his feet and screaming isn't working.

Response to louis-t (Reply #34)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
36. Just to point out: dog-whistle messages are totally his style, as is the Mack truck metaphor.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:19 PM
Mar 2023

He has practiced caging his speech so that it's wrapped in dogwhistles and innuendo for deniable culpability.

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
40. i ordered two free tix :) and just got my instructions about where to park etc...
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:34 PM
Mar 2023

..the map is showing three HUGE buildings set aside for the rally. Plz someone who is actually going, send us a pic of the empty seats.

Response to allegorical oracle (Original post)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
75. I saw people reserving tickets (which won't be used)...
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 10:51 PM
Mar 2023

On Twitter. I hope there are lots of empty chairs.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
78. $20 bucks says Trump will praise David Koresh & the Branch Davidians in his speech
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 11:07 PM
Mar 2023

Cult leaders love other cult leaders

randr

(12,643 posts)
80. His maghat minions do not have a clue
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:07 AM
Mar 2023

He is using them as extras for his own political gain which will be diving deeper into their pockets.

kimbutgar

(27,238 posts)
86. Just finished the Netflix doc on Waco
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:20 PM
Mar 2023

I knew about it but after watching I was horrified even more. What disgusting place to hold a rally. And they kept showing the photos of Timothy McVeigh . Interesting that these two disgusting individuals end up in Waco. Those poor children dying because there parents were in a cult of a false prophet.

I hope this rally is the last one he ever has because hopefully he’ll humiliated once and for all.

40RatRod

(566 posts)
88. In the past, it has been claimed that Trump would not pay for the police support & rent of stadiums
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:00 PM
Mar 2023

If that is accurate, why would any city allow him to come.

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