Breaking on MSNBC - Judge finds evidence of crime in Trump doc scandal

[Marius25]

Looks like the DoJ has convincing evidence, enough for even a Judge, that Trump committed a crime with regard to the document theft.

No surprise, but I wonder what this will lead to.

[Bayard]

1. Link?

[kentuck]

2. My first guess was that it is somehow connected to the named individuals Judge Howell...

...ordered to appear before the Grand Jury?

They are attempting to find the origin of the missing documents and who was passing them to Trump? Ratcliffe is a rat.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Yes, that is why she granted the fraud/crime exception

Because there was evidence of a crime.

[mucifer]

3. i thought i heard that yesterday could be wrong tho

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. 6 judges have ruled there was evidence of Trump crimes in recent weeks

So yes, you did hear it the other day, and you heard it again today.

[UTUSN]

4. K&R

[sl8]

5. This?

It's from earlier this week, though.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/21/politics/corcoran-trump-testimony/index.html

Justice Department convinces federal judge Trump used his attorney in furtherance of a crime in classified docs probe

By Sara Murray, Kaitlan Collins and Katelyn Polantz, CNN
Updated 11:10 PM EDT, Tue March 21, 2023

CNN
—
The Justice Department has convinced a federal judge that former President Donald Trump used one of his defense attorneys in furtherance of a crime or fraud related to the existence of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The finding – part of a major ruling Friday from Judge Beryl Howell of the DC District Court – makes clear for the first time that the Justice Department is arguing it has evidence that Trump may have committed a crime. And Howell ruled that prosecutors met the burden to overcome Trump’s right to shield discussions with his lawyers normally protected under attorney-client privilege.

[...]

Judges Nina Pillard, Michelle Childs and Florence Pan of the DC Circuit have demanded more information and arguments by early Wednesday morning, setting a deadline for Trump and his lawyers by midnight and for prosecutors to respond by 6 a.m.

The extremely tight deadlines – a turnaround essentially unheard of in this court – indicates the seriousness of the matter.

[...]

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. "Looks like" - is that your judgement, or that of someone on MSNBC

and are they eg a legal expert, or a journalist with a source in the DoJ, or just a general commentator?

[cilla4progress]

7. I'm watching - Ali is in for JoyAnn -

am I missing it?

[TeamProg]

8. It's really easy to add a link! Context is eveything.

[BradBo]

9. Thats treason.

[milestogo]

10. Is this with regard to the classified documents?

Is that now considered a "theft" and not a mistake?

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

11. Can I be the first to say LOCK HIM UP!

Woot

[Smackdown2019]

14. Kicking and Screaming!

Thats how he will go.......

[oldsoftie]

15. A strongly worded letter!!

THESE charges should come before Stormy

[Justice matters.]

16. Hurry up! National Security is at risk since 6 years and 2 months!

Agents abroad, those still alive, are waiting to resume their important work to protect the nation.

Allied nations are waiting to resume sharing their intel with the US and until that hair furhair is locked up, they will be wary to do that.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. 65 recs, and even someone watching MSNBC can't work out what this thread means

The best guess is that it's not "breaking", but what was said a few days ago.

[republianmushroom]

18. You mean having them mixed in with his shirts wasn't enough evidence.

Sure would of been, if it had been me. His attorneys sign how many affidavits that there wasn't any more,
but they just kept showing up. And even on a lap top. So, now, a judge finally says, yep, there is evidence that a crime has been committed.

[AverageOldGuy]

19. Do I remember correctly . . . .

. . . that it was only a few short years ago that Trump's adoring crowds were shouting "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"?

Does anyone else remember that?

[NullTuples]

20. It'll lead to the House Republicans screaming that Biden should be charged, too.

No need for rationality or logic or even actually charges being brought, just incendiary statements to the press to rile up their base.

And news media outlets will happily cooperate.