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highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:38 PM Mar 2023

Wharton professor uses AI to do business project in 30 minutes that would take team days

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:11 AM - Edit history (2)

This is both an "isn't AI amazing" story and a "look at all the job losses coming" story.

From Fortune - https://fortune.com/2023/03/26/wharton-professor-ai-tools-openai-chatgpt-30-minutes-business-project-superhuman-results/ - via Yahoo News:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wharton-professor-gave-tools-30-224951777.html

A Wharton professor gave A.I. tools 30 minutes to work on a business project. The results were ‘superhuman’

Steve Mollman
Sun, March 26, 2023 at 5:49 PM CDT

Artificial intelligence is presenting new possibilities on how to do work, and leaving many observers nervous about what will become of white-collar jobs.

Ethan Mollick, a management professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, has been closely following developments in generative A.I. tools, which can create essays, images, voices, code, and much else based on a user’s text prompts.

He recently decided to see how much such tools could accomplish in only 30 minutes, and described the results this weekend on his blog One Useful Thing. The results were, he writes, “superhuman.”

In that short amount of time, he writes, the tools managed to do market research, create a positioning document, write an email campaign, create a website, create a logo and “hero shot” graphic, make a social media campaign for multiple platforms, and script and create a video.

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His blog post is here: https://oneusefulthing.substack.com/p/superhuman-what-can-ai-do-in-30-minutes

Here are three ways of looking at what I did in 30 minutes:

-snipping sections on specific output and input-

Content: I “created” a market positioning document, an email campaign, a website, a logo, a hero image, a script and animated video, social campaigns for 5 platforms, and some other odds-and-ends besides.


This would have been a lot of work for me to do. Many hours, maybe days of work. I would have needed a team to help: I have never done an email marketing campaign, don’t know CSS, and certainly could not have staged a photo like the one in the hero image. I am sure humans could have done better, but they could not have been as fast. And that, I think, is both the problem and the opportunity. When we all can do superhuman amounts of work, what happens? Do we do less work an have more leisure? Do we work more and do the jobs of ten people? Do employers benefit? Employees? I am not sure. Historically, these sorts of disruptions lead to short-term issues, and long-term employment growth. Hopefully, we will be in a future where we do less boring work, offloading the annoying and unfulfilling tasks, so that we can focus on the more creative and generative work we like to do.

The key is that I was able to do this using the tools available today, without any specific technical knowledge, and in plain English prompts: I just asked for what I wanted, and the AI provided it. That means almost everyone else can do it, too. We are already in a world of superhumans, we just have to wait for the implications.



I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this:

When we all can do superhuman amounts of work, what happens? Do we do less work an have more leisure? Do we work more and do the jobs of ten people? Do employers benefit? Employees?


In a potentially utopian society, it might be hard to guess what happens.

In reality, without regulations to stop employers from exploiting AI to lay off workers, it's pretty obvious what will happen. It's already happening. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217681540 .

And teachers' jobs aren't safe, either. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217746844 .

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman never finished college, but launched his first startup at 19. He does think we'll need a universal basic income in the future, as the jobs disappear, but doesn't think it will need to be very much, because power will be free thanks to fusion, so food will be cheap, and you'll be able to get all the education you need from your smartphone. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217685127#post9 .

In that future, jobs as professors will be scarce.

As for what jobs aren't threatened by AI, OpenAI's own study explained:

Agricultural Equipment Operators
Athletes and Sports Competitors
Auto Mechanics
Cement Masons
Cooks
Cafeteria Attendants
Bartenders
Dishwashers
Electrical Power-Line Installers and Repairers
Carpenters
Painters
Plumbers
Meat, Poultry, and Fish Cutters and Trimmers
Slaughterers and Meat Packers
Stonemasons


But give them a bit more time to improve robots...


EDITING to add that Professor Mollick has more to say about AI causing disruptions on his Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/emollick . See reply 9 below for some tweets.

EDITING AGAIN to link to a thread I posted two days ago about an NPR story on another experiment he did, that one on deepfakes, and his warning about those: https://democraticunderground.com/100217756831 .
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Wharton professor uses AI to do business project in 30 minutes that would take team days (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2023 OP
Oh for crying out loud. How good is it? Pobeka Mar 2023 #1
Supposedly it isn't connected to the web. edisdead Mar 2023 #2
Probably no way it can do "market research" without a web connection. Pobeka Mar 2023 #3
I suppose I was talking about open AIs chatgpt edisdead Mar 2023 #5
The dataset these AI were trained on all scraped the internet. And highplainsdem Mar 2023 #4
Right. edisdead Mar 2023 #6
The quality of work that humans do is subjective also. former9thward Mar 2023 #8
Give me a topic right now and I'll run it through GPT4 Renew Deal Mar 2023 #14
That's an interesting story and very believable. Renew Deal Mar 2023 #7
Mollick's Twitter feed gives more attention to disruptions/jobs: highplainsdem Mar 2023 #9
You can be rich too if you just BootinUp Mar 2023 #10
He's really a professor. But I've seen hundreds of tweets from other highplainsdem Mar 2023 #11
I posted about another experiment and warning from him two days highplainsdem Mar 2023 #12
Just more hype. At least that what it smells BootinUp Mar 2023 #13
I wish it were just hype. The claim to be close to AGI with GPT-4 is most highplainsdem Mar 2023 #15
I posted a chart to give people some idea how many businesses and highplainsdem Mar 2023 #16
How many days did it take him to set up that test case? TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #17
Can we get an AI to help write your daily anti-AI diatribes? tinrobot Mar 2023 #18
Bahahahaha BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #20
Unlike some pro-AI people, I do NOT need AI to write for me. But highplainsdem Mar 2023 #21
+1 honest.abe Mar 2023 #23
I work in an office Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #19
That busy work is called "Bullsh*t Jobs" tinrobot Mar 2023 #24
This is amazing but I dont believe the massive job losses hype. honest.abe Mar 2023 #22
AI may be the next step in the evolutionary chain Kaleva Mar 2023 #25

Pobeka

(5,006 posts)
1. Oh for crying out loud. How good is it?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:51 PM
Mar 2023

All that stuff -- market research -- positioning paper -- web design -- is ENTIRELY subjective. One person might say it's good, then next person (or prof) might have problems with the results.

AI this, AI that. Big bucket of baloney, I say. All that underlying technology has been in place for years. Neural networks, big data (and the notorious problems with analysis and use of it). All that we are seeing recently is the ability to put the results in a natural language format. All it can really do is reorganize and regurgitate information it finds on the web. Creative new insights? -- not so much, me thinks.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
2. Supposedly it isn't connected to the web.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:03 PM
Mar 2023

Or it just got connected.

Not sure what I believe about that.

Pobeka

(5,006 posts)
3. Probably no way it can do "market research" without a web connection.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:05 PM
Mar 2023

Wouldn't be feasible (or smart) to have a database big enough to redundantly cover everything that exists on the web already.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
5. I suppose I was talking about open AIs chatgpt
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:07 PM
Mar 2023

I didn’t look to see what tool he was using.

I do agree with you about the big kerfuffle about some of this.

highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
4. The dataset these AI were trained on all scraped the internet. And
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:07 PM
Mar 2023

Bing AI (which uses OpenAI's GPT-4 because of the OpenAI/Microsoft partnership), Google's Bard, and now ChatGPT are all connected to the web.

Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
14. Give me a topic right now and I'll run it through GPT4
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:13 AM
Mar 2023

Any topic you want other than current events. Marketing, research, recipes, bedtime stories, or whatever you want.

Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
7. That's an interesting story and very believable.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:16 PM
Mar 2023

I've seen people use these systems more or less this way. They spend most of their time proofreading and editing. The mistakes are tolerable because time is saved overall.

It is scary for some career paths. It's not just marketing people that are in trouble. It's also not great for software developers. You can ask GPT to write a program in pretty much any language. I've heard that the results for relatively small requests are good quality and fast.

Based on that list, I think I'll try out for the NBA.

highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
11. He's really a professor. But I've seen hundreds of tweets from other
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:56 PM
Mar 2023

people promising to tell you how to become rich using AI. Lots of YouTube videos about it, too.

Professor Mollick's credentials:

https://www.gse.upenn.edu/academics/faculty-directory/mollick

Ethan Mollick studies innovation and entrepreneurship, with a special emphasis on how to give everyone more opportunities to be innovative and entrepreneurial. His papers have been published in top management journals and have won best paper awards from multiple divisions of the Academy of Management. His work on crowdfunding is the most cited article in management published in the last five years. Dr. Mollick is a Schultze Distinguished Professor and Kauffman Foundation Junior Faculty Fellow.

highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
15. I wish it were just hype. The claim to be close to AGI with GPT-4 is most
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 01:02 AM
Mar 2023

likely hype. But what Mollick is saying about what the AI we already have can do isn't hype. And he's right to be alarmed about how disruptive it will be.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
18. Can we get an AI to help write your daily anti-AI diatribes?
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:25 AM
Mar 2023

I'm thinking AI could totally increase your productivity.

highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
21. Unlike some pro-AI people, I do NOT need AI to write for me. But
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

feel free to automate standard objections to anyone posting news stories about AI you disapprove of. Maybe you could use AI to churn out letters to the magazines and other media publishing such stories, too.

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
19. I work in an office
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:31 AM
Mar 2023

I'm an engineer. My company will innovate and create ways to utilize AI. but I've been of the mind for years now that 70% of office jobs are just busy work.

Automation changed factories permanently. It will do the same for office work.

But people need to work, new non value jobs will be created to keep people busy.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
24. That busy work is called "Bullsh*t Jobs"
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:44 PM
Mar 2023

There was a book about it.


In Bullshit Jobs, American anthropologist David Graeber posits that the productivity benefits of automation have not led to a 15-hour workweek, as predicted by economist John Maynard Keynes in 1930, but instead to "bullshit jobs": "a form of paid employment that is so completely pointless, unnecessary, or pernicious that even the employee cannot justify its existence even though, as part of the conditions of employment, the employee feels obliged to pretend that this is not the case." While these jobs can offer good compensation and ample free time, Graeber holds that the pointlessness of the work grates at their humanity and creates a "profound psychological violence".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

I'm not sure if AI will replace workers or just create more bullshit jobs. I seems like a 15-20 hour workweek might be a bit too far of a reach for most companies.
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
22. This is amazing but I dont believe the massive job losses hype.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:33 PM
Mar 2023

What I see in the future are people being more productive and the playing field getting much more competitive. The people at risk of losing their jobs are those who refuse to or dont know how to use AI tools. AI is the future and I seriously doubt there will be serious regulation to stop it. That would only shoot ourselves in foot and make us less competitive on the world stage.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
25. AI may be the next step in the evolutionary chain
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 12:52 PM
Mar 2023

Humans, no longer relevant, will die out or be hunted to extinction .

In the future, it will be AI traveling to and conquering other worlds in the galaxy.

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