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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Ultimate Proof Iraq Was a Mistake: It Gave Us Trump
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Twenty years after the United States invaded Iraq, it is worth asking whether it was the right thing to do. As someone who was passively in favor of it (I was a loyal conservative Republican, but I wasnt a writer back then), Im now solidly in the no camp for one reason: The once (and future?) presidency of Donald Trump.
I realize this sounds both partisan and crazy. Instead of questioning if it was the right thing to do, shouldnt the question be, Did Saddam Hussein need to be toppled? Shouldnt the question be, Did Saddam have weapons of mass destruction (WMDs)or the ability to quickly reconstitute them? Shouldnt the question be, Were the Iraqi people better off being liberated from this monster? Shouldnt the question be, Is our geopolitical situation more secure?
If we evaluated the invasion using those criteria, it could conceivably be considered the right decisioneven in light of the dysfunctional manner in which it played out (ultimately requiring a troop surge in 2007 to provide security and prevent a humiliating withdrawal).
Remember, George W. Bush made this decision in 2003, after the 9/11 attacks. Everyone, including Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and even Joe Biden, had been making noise about toppling the butcher of Baghdad. Indeed, Saddam had previously used WMDs against his own people. And our most recent foray into Iraq (Operation Desert Storm) had been a walk in the park. In the heady days of 2003, it was easy to rationalize that this decision was morally correct, strategically sound, and likely to go smoothly.
It didnt go well, and the fallout was worse than expected. And Im not just talking about the insurgency. Not finding any WMDs resulted in faulty intel being held up as additional evidence that the so-called experts and elites were either incompetent, evil, or both. There is a straight line from this belief to todays animosity directed at our intel agencies (i.e., the deep state).
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The Ultimate Proof Iraq Was a Mistake: It Gave Us Trump (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Mar 2023
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Skittles
(153,193 posts)1. they knew there were no WMD
that was just the excuse to invade
MagickMuffin
(15,952 posts)2. I'd like to take us back to election year 2000
The United States Supreme Court gave us bush, which turned our country on its head!
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)3. No it didn't. The attacks on Hillary during the General gave us Trump...the likes of Jill Stein
and all the others who didn't vote for Hillary and essentially campaigned for Trump. Many on our side gave us Trump by not supporting Hillary. I will never forgive them.
Model35mech
(1,553 posts)4. hmm, I thought it gave us the 2nd Cheney administration
guess I'll have to scratch that from the thumb drive
JI7
(89,264 posts)5. No. RAcists and other bigots are why we got Trump and that includes those
that claim to be on the left .