MOTHER FUCKERS AT FAUX NEWS

[brettdale]

The shooter identified as a male. The authorities are looking at what at what role does this play in the shooting.

[AkFemDem]

1. Are you sure?

I read that she identified as female, I even read a male name she was born with.

ETA of course Faux probably misreported it.

[Celerity]

48. you have it flipped, he was born a biological female, but now (until his death) identified as male.

His fundie christian parents refused to accept him as a male, that is why they call him their daughter.

Aiden is the male name he started to use, Audrey Elizabeth is his birth name.

https://news.sky.com/story/nashville-school-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-killer-so-far-12843858

[AkFemDem]

49. She was still using Audrey according to friends and neighbors

And the art work is signed by either name within the same time period.

Frankly I have no clue what this creep identified as and I’ve decided I don’t care.

[BannonsLiver]

2. Be safe out there everyone.

This is a perilous time. And it will get worse as the media right wing or otherwise relentlessly flogs the shooters gender identity.

[Aristus]

3. Fox News got something wrong.

Stop the presses...

[Trenzalore]

4. Did the person get the guns legally?

If they did, it doesn't matter who the hell they were.

The gun laws were the problem.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

6. 400 million guns...lot of problems...gun laws to corral all these WMDs? Mandatory seizures.

Time for some shock and awe from law abiding citizens wanting laws forcing the Gun to abide.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

7. Oh really?

And who, pray tell, will be doing the mandatory seizures?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

8. Once the laws are in place then the enforcers of the law will do their jobs. Rule of law works

for many things,

Seize the Guns.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. How about the rural areas of the country?

Where most police/sheriff's are related to the towns population?

And you really think any court, liberal or conservative would sign off on such a law?

Dude, I want some of what you're smoking.

[NickB79]

12. 100 cops were afraid of one kid with an AR in Uvalde

We'd need the military to carry out a door-to-door confiscation.

And the enforcers of the laws you propose are currently largely gun-loving MAGAt's, so.......

[Alexander Of Assyria]

13. Australia did it, need I remind anyone.

Confiscation of banned weapons of mass death is not the obstacle, the problem is the mass delusion that it can’t be done, on the left and right.

What was written can be unwritten and rewritten…that’s what laws are.

Seeing the same delusion on a left wing board is evidence of the extent of the bad thinking.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. Ahhh, but what you fail to add is that Australia is a whole different culture

plus they don't have anything in their Constitution like the 2nd Amendment, however, IMO, mis-interpreted it is.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

22. Whole different culture, not so Gun loving and brainwashed by a look away media, give you that!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. My point exactly,

gun seizures in this country will not happen, whether by the courts or the law enforcement community.

[friend of a friend]

24. First there would have to be an amendment to the Constitution and that won't happen.

A liberal Supreme Court would probably allow some more laws on guns, but would not allow mass seizures.

[NickB79]

29. Australia BOUGHT BACK 650,000 guns

A mandatory buyback, not door to door confiscation. And this amounted to 20% of all of the guns in Australia at the time, meaning Australia had a total of 3 million guns out of a population of 19 million at the time. Whereas the US has 400 million guns for 325 million people.

So, if we did the same procedure here in the US, we'd need to collect at least 100 million guns, at a market value of $500-$1000 each, amounting to $50-$100 billion dollars. And since Australia collected ALL semi-automatic centerfire weapons, that's most handguns as well as all the AR's and AK's out there.

And that's assuming people actually turn them over. Australians in the 1990's weren't the paranoid MAGA gun nuts we have in the US circa 2023. And since we don't have federal gun registries in the US, and very few states have universal background checks, we have no way of tracing who owns what firearms.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

32. Mandatory buyback is great idea! Fund it it by not building another aircraft carrier.

Or two,or three, as needed. Maybe a couple less foreign bases.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. Or maybe have the Chinese police come in and do the seizures?

That's got about as much chance as a mandatory buy back in this country.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

38. That's what the Indians said about the end of colonialism..then it happened!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

41. LOL.

Okay, you just keep on believing that such a law would pass Constitutional muster and the cops would enforce it.

[Fla_Democrat]

45. That would be entertaining, to say the least.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

19. Exaggeration, all round.

[NickB79]

33. Just ask yourself: do you trust the same police that killed George Floyd?

Because those would be the "enforcers" you'd be sending out to get all those guns.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

43. Cops who got the Nashville shooter...there's what you looking for?

[friend of a friend]

14. And when would the Supreme Court vote those mandatory seizures is constitutional?

Even a liberal Supreme Court would not find that constitutional.

[Captain Stern]

44. You can't possibly be serious.

"Once the laws are in place then the enforcers of the law will do their jobs."

C'mon man. We've been watching how the 'enforcers of the law' do their jobs.

It's not good.

[RussBLib]

23. things are going to have to get a whole lot worse before seizures

like thousands and thousand gunned down, including members of Congress, state leges, etc, on TV, online.

People think things are impossible until they are not. But I'm afraid this country would be unrecognizable.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

28. Guns being the no. 1 killer of children not enough? Has to be children of politicians?

[RussBLib]

31. obviously not enough to move Republicans

or else we'd have some decent laws on the books

[Alexander Of Assyria]

34. The obstacle politically is Republicans, the obstacle politically is more Democrats with balls!

[MrsCoffee]

50. Guns would have to be the no. 1 killer of Republican politicians for anything to change.

I don’t know that they would change anything for their children, but we all know they will do whatever it takes to protect themselves.


P.S. - I’m not advocating for that. It’s just how absurd reality is right now.

[GenXer47]

27. the silent treatment is all we can do

I told my brother to fuck off because of his budding gun nutfuckery.
I loved my brother, I looked up to him my entire life. We never had so much as a disagreement that I can recall.
This is the only way - the law isn't coming to help us and we can't do it by force.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

30. We are the law, we should help it do it's job, it's a matter of national security and safety.

Safety For All….at least for the children gunned down by the nations number one killer, Guns!?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. So here's a question,

suppose by some miracle a mandatory buy back or nationwide seizure was enacted, highly doubtful, you say we should help the law, so, will you be there to help police enforce such a law?

You might be all alone because I don't think the cops are going to risk their lives like that.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

40. The lawmakers and the law enforcers, like the prosecutors and judges...are separate powers.

It’s in the opening credits of Law and Order TV show!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

42. Well, gee,

thank you for that Civic's lesson, amazing what you can learn from watching Law and Order.

I noticed that you didn't answer the question posed to you.

[Fla_Democrat]

46. Hear, hear!

I agree 100%. We should help. I got some things on the stove, so I'll have to catch up, but please, go right ahead and stack up. Those plates lvl 4?

[Sympthsical]

9. Always wait

The media in these cases always scramble to be firsties - not accurate.

By tomorrow morning, the picture will be clearer.

[BlackSkimmer]

10. Who watches Fox?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

17. In the not cray world, only the brave. In the Republican alt. Universe, all of them.

[Kingofalldems]

16. Ahhh--I see what's going on.

[brettdale]

18. Transgender

CNN. She identifies as transgender.

Faux news will blame this.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

37. The Gun is unisexual...takes no sides, that should be the only focus.

[IcyPeas]

20. they just said at the news press conference that the person was transgender

[Dave Bowman]

21. Fux...

[AkFemDem]

26. You know it occurs to me that all of the mainstream media is in on this

Intentionally or unintentionally- they're always looking for an "angle" and "we" fall for it every time. Example- Uvalde became all about the cowardice of the local police force. Even on this forum, it's all we posted about. Somehow we forgot about the guns. I think this started with Columbine when the country became fixated on blaming bullying- and years later when the facts were finally uncurled enough to reveal the shooters hadn't been targets of bullies but had often been perpetrators of it, no one cared enough to discuss it. The guns were forgotten early on. This time it'll be about "what would drive a transexual shooter?" and everyone will be debating if identity is relevant or not and guns will fade away quietly...

[Alexander Of Assyria]

35. Guns. Guns. Guns. 400 Million...full force media press needed to avoid that discussion!

[Celerity]

47. The shooter was a trans man, born a biological female, but now, up until they died, identified

as a male.

His fundie christian parents refused to accept him, and still call him their daughter.