Frampton: 'It IS the 'f***ing guns!'

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Peter Frampton @peterframpton 2h
I have posted this before but ..

26 years ago, a gunman entered
Dunblane Primary School in Scotland,
killing 16 kids and a teacher. The UK
govt responded by enacting tight gun
control legislation. In the 9400+ days
since, there have been a total of O
school shootings in the UK.

Peter Frampton @peterframpton
School shooting in Nashville pre k through 6th grade. Children, babies!!! It IS the fucking guns!

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[Srkdqltr]

1. Yes

[Stargleamer]

2. And Frampton Comes Alive when he says it! n/t

[Artcatt]

5. It's the fuckin' guns!

[Earth-shine]

17. Do you feel as we do?

[Dustlawyer]

3. This is what you get when you allow for campaign donations.

Majority of Americans wants some reasonable gun restrictions. We cannot get anything done because wealthy special interests bought our politicians. They also bought our media. That is why you never hear about campaign finance reform. The media is the recipient of all of the campaign money.

Publicly Funded Elections are one solution by it takes all of us to demand it. Not going to happen even though we could solve most of the country’s problems if the politicians answered to us instead of donors.

[Haggard Celine]

6. I agree. Corruption is our worst problem.

I think we're headed for some major upheaval in this country. Pretty much everyone is sick of the way things are now. I just hope we don't have any kind of violence that the military can't quell. Hope we can stick together and make things better for everyone.

[LiberalArkie]

19. Military can not act on U.S. soil. Posse Comitatus Act

[Haggard Celine]

20. That's right.

Maybe I’m thinking about the National Guard. I know they get called on for domestic disturbances. They did plenty of that in the South back in the 60s. It’s a good thing the people weren’t as armed back then as they are today. They had shotguns and rifles, sure, but I don’t think they had all of these weapons of war that we have today. Of course there weren’t nearly as many people in the country as there are today.

[LiberalArkie]

22. I don't think we have any hope as a civilized country. All weapons could be banned and there

would still be enough for every man, woman and child to have one. And it is apparent that American parents do not give a shit about children to vote the assholes out or demand a change.

[Haggard Celine]

25. Yeah, we're at a turning point.

I hope we turn off the road we’re on. We can’t continue unless we make some serious changes. I’m scared of what it’s going to take to do that.

[LiberalArkie]

28. But how many turning points have been reached?

I am 75, when I was in high school every guy had a gun rack in their truck with their rifles on it. I had never seen a handgun except for the 38's the policemen had. And I was raised in the hunting areas of south Arkansas.

[Paladin]

4. A thousand thanks, Mr. Frampton. (nt)

[Aussie105]

7. Well of course it is the guns!

Nothing wrong with the second amendment, if taken in its historical context and absorb the fact it is no longer applicable today.

When you allow it to be translated into the current interpretation that anyone can own whatever firearm is available for sale, and then use it to 'express' the insanity inside their heads, then you get the mess the US is in.

All motivated by the profit motive.
What is the annual 'collateral damage' in terms of human lives in the USA?

Get rid of the open/concealed carry, the 'yes you can have a licence' bullshit, close down gun shops, close down manufacturers, stop imports, confiscate firearms not in the hands of police or military.

Other countries have done it, why not the USA? Oh yeah, that profit motive . . . kill that, and you are partway there.

[Straw Man]

10. Eh?

When you allow it to be translated into the current interpretation that anyone can own whatever firearm is available for sale, and then use it to 'express' the insanity inside their heads, then you get the mess the US is in.

There is no interpretation of the Second Amendment that condones murder as self-expression.

[ShazzieB]

12. It's the profit motive PLUS the 2nd amendment.

As long as that amendment stands, the NRA and its bought and sold politicians can and will keep using it as a handy excuse on which to base opposition to gun control. 😬

But you're right about the profit and campaign finance issues. We could do an end run around the 2nd amendment and get some good gun control laws passed if not for that situation. 😠

[GB_RN]

31. It's Not The 2A, Per Se...

But the deliberate and willful misinterpretation of the 2A to favor the Nazi Rifle Association, the Gun MFGs and ammosexuals. This twisting of the 2A has only happened within the last 40 years or so thanks to a corrupt SCOTUS and GOPQ.

[LT Barclay]

46. What is also scary about the situation is the judges who keep issuing favorable decisions for the gun nuts which leaves

2 equally frightening conclusions:
We have people serving on the bench, making decisions that literally affect millions of people, who don't possess the reading comprehension skills of a 6th grader, OR they are just as easily bought off as the congress.

Oh heck, sorry, I was in my bookmarks and didn't realize this discussion was so old. But I guess you get a reply anyway.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

8. If I had a Gun...I wouldn't cause I would wonder...why?? My protein is in a grocery store.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. Thank You Peter Frampton. We are all eating Humble Pie and looking for a way forward.

[Trust_Reality]

38. The way forward...

Republicans (mostly) refuse to ban assault weapons.

So... BAN REPUBLICANS.

Someone (younger than me) needs to start a national campaign:

BAN REPUBLICANS !

[Trust_Reality]

39. Another idea...

The ban on assault weapons died during the administration of George W Bush. He did nothing to try to save it.

So, perhaps a letter writing campaign to "W" suggesting shame and calling him out for not saying anything about that being a big mistake. Asking him to finally speak up.

[fescuerescue]

42. I don't think that George W can renew it now.

It might be better to do the letter writing campaign to our current President who actually has some authority and influence with Congress.

[Evolve Dammit]

45. "Dubya" feels no shame. Incapable. As are the rest of his cabal.

[Doc_Technical]

11. Thank You Peter Frampton.

We want you, to show us the way.

[OMGWTF]

13. Beautiful!

[EnergizedLib]

14. I have to say

Peter Frampton, I feel like you do.

[Beartracks]

15. There are those who actually value childrens' lives...

... and those, like US Republicans, who only claim to value childrens' lives.

Guns kill and maim more children than pictures of naked statues do.

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[DallasNE]

16. At About The Same Time

As the UK shooting President Clinton signed into law the Brady Bill. That law outlawed military style assault weapons, such as the AR-15, and high capacity magazines.

George W. BUSH allowed the Brady Bill to expire 10 years later. Back came the AR-15 and high capacity magazines. And the rest is history.

[republianmushroom]

18. Nailed it

[stage left]

24. Absolutely!

It is the fucking guns.

[live love laugh]

26. Is McConnell back yet to offer "thoughts and prayers"? Or may r McCarthy already has.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Brilliant

[twodogsbarking]

29. Gee, maybe something should be done.

[Lunabell]

30. It's definitely the guns.

Facts don't lie!

https://studyfinds.org/mass-shootings-american-problem/

[elias7]

32. I don't care if criminals can get guns, they don't shoot up schools

I think it’s a specious argument to say that if guns are banned, criminals will still get their hands on them. That may be so, but it’s not the criminals who are shooting up schools.

[dlk]

33. The decades long Republican war on public schools includes doing nothing about mass shootings

They have no intention of making our schools safer.

[videohead5]

34. If some of you don't know

Peter lives in Nashville.

[runnergirl]

35. did not know that.

thank you.

[Your Darn Teuton]

36. Show Us The Way, Peter!

[Bluethroughu]

37. No guns, no gun deaths.

If a reward of $200,000. was offered to anyone turning someone in the has a gun, we'd have no guns.

If you were caught with a gun, and got an automatic 20 years, we'd have no guns.

I hate guns.

[Zilli]

40. In amerikkka (GQP world)

Guns are far, far more valuable than any life.

GUNS TRUMP LIVES not sarcasm

[SYFROYH]

41. Point of Order: the UK still has mass shootings, just not school shootings

They’ve never had much of one or the other historically.

There is something special about the US and it’s school shootings that goes beyond guns.

[WalkerinSC]

43. Most shooters are at heart cowards

very rarely do you see shooters gunning for armories, gun stores, gun shows, police stations, or really any place where potential armed people may be at. Schools and such present easy targets.

There is also a backlash to the bully culture in schools. Those that are powerless finally have a way to outlet that frustration and their (perceived or real) physical limitations are eliminated with a firearm.

The way I see it, others mileage may vary, is there is a gun access problem with a dose of violent culture (we have always been a violent people here), and a lack of counseling and mental health services, seen as taboo, by many. I have enough guns to outfit a platoon. Everything from AR-15s (in multiple calibers), handguns, hunting rifles, survival carbines, shotguns, etc. Just accrued from wills, purchases, trades over a lifetime. There are millions of people like me that have guns that will never kill anyone (in my case will probably never kill anything, I just don't have the heart to shoot game animals any longer). There has to be a balance of the individual right to self defense and bear arms and the social responsibility to the community as a whole. Both sides ardent and/or most strident proponents tend to drown out the center which is how we got to where we are today.

[GB_RN]

44. Everyone Should Read This WaPo Article

It has detailed, 3-D computer generated images showing what the damage looks like from an assault-style (0.223 caliber) rifle round as compared to a 9mm. Ironically, the article was published Monday morning, hours before the Tennessee school shooting.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/