Nashville killer shot open the door to gain entry.

[Cattledog]

The power of an assault weapon.

[kelly1mm]

1. As per military training a shotgun is the preferred and much more efficient

way to gain entry through secured doors. Did it many times in the service. A rifle or handgun will work in a pinch but potentially take many more rounds with a higher potential failure rate. Most entry teams will have one or more members with shotguns (in addition to their regular load out) just for this purpose.

[Cattledog]

2. The doors are glass panel types

Made it easier as well.

[kelly1mm]

5. Shoot, in that case a brick would probably have been more efficient than a rifle so it

definitely was not about the power of an assault weapon. Don't get me wrong, assault weapons (and maybe more importantly their ammunition dynamics) are VERY efficient in doing maximum harm to bodies they hit - they just are not designed for breech operations.

[Initech]

3. So locking the doors won't work.

[Igel]

10. Depends on the door.

My HS has glass doors and somebody suggested they replace them with opaque metal doors.

To which others said something about the 90 foot stretch of windows along the front of the building, or the glass wall to the caferia ...

[wnylib]

12. Well that's disturbing.

My church runs a day care. It's a liberal church that RW extremists and Evangelicals would definitely not agree with. For security, all doors in the building are locked all day, every day. There is only one door that any one can enter by. It has a buzzer and intercom for identifying yourself. A church employee can buzz you in or refuse to.

But if someone shoots open the door, those kids wouldn't have a chance.

Do we have to have armed guards at every institution in the country now?

[Initech]

13. I think that's where the NRA is going with this.

[wnylib]

14. Entrance to the church is guarded on Sundays, too.

People still need to get buzzed in for services on Sundays, but usually somebody is near the only entrance door that we use now and can open it from the inside for people that they know.

During Sunday School and regular church services, one member who has past military experience stands in a hallway that gives him a view and quick access to any breach of any of the entrances. He carries a concealed gun.

But he's not there on weekdays, AFAIK. I don't know what security there is on weekdays besides the locked door.

[yardwork]

4. Maybe it's time to ban these weapons. I don't know...

[lindysalsagal]

6. Hell, most schools have open windows at 3-4th off the ground. The don't need doors.

You can have a school, that's easy to escape in a fire, or a prison, which isn't.

No, it's not the job of the schools to stop gun violence.

[Kaleva]

7. As stated,earlier, a shotgun is better for that.

[womanofthehills]

9. Supposedly she had a shotgun and 2 assault rifles

And according to Heavy her mom posted on Facebook about the horrors of school shootings.

“ Hale’s mother deleted her Facebook page after Hale was identified as the suspect in the shooting. Posts viewed by Heavy show that Norma Fort Hale had posted about gun control and school shootings in the past. Hale’s mother and brother could not be reached for comment by Heavy.

In March 2018, she shared a link to a Sandy Hook Promise petition to “keep guns out of schools,” and wrote in the caption on the post “So important!” In February 2018, Norma Hale, the suspect’s mom, shared another link to a Sandy Hook Promise petition to “make large-capacity gun magazines illegal,” without any additional comment.” https://heavy.com/news/audrey-hale/

[Kaleva]

11. Yep.

[womanofthehills]

8. Three little 9 yr olds were killed & 3 teachers in their early 60's

A total of seven people, including the shooter, were killed at the school, police said. The victims have been identified by police on Twitter as Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs and William Kinney, all 9, along with 61-year-old Cynthia Peak, 60-year-old Katherine Koonce and 61-year-old Mike Hill. Koonce was the head of school.

https://heavy.com/news/audrey-hale/