Nashville Shooter Former Student Identifies as Transgender

[rustysgurl]

So her parents probably sent her to this school hoping to change her. Makes you wonder what she went through while a student there.

[mcar]

1. It's a preK-6

I think you are making quite an assumption here.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Young children can be bullied and teased.

Happens every day.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. Yes, but waiting until she's 28?

I was bullied in elementary school.

I never entertained murderous feelings, but if I had, I think they'd have faded some two decades later.

[Irish_Dem]

17. There could be many different kinds of variables and factors at play.

Perhaps the bullying started in elementary school, but didn't end there.
Perhaps it continued into middle and high school.

Also, it is possible there was more than bullying, bad things can happen in these religious schools.
Which yes could lead to mental illness or severe PTSD in later life.

There could also have been an underlying depressive disorder, or traumatic childhood experience in the home.

But yes why does it all come to a head at age 28.
Usually there is some sort of triggering event, with the past history as a back drop.

A job loss, broken romance, death of a loved one, etc.

Of course I am just guessing, I have no data.
Educated guessing based on training and experience.

[mcar]

11. They can and they are

but you are assuming the murderer knew she was trans at that early age (I know, some do), that her parents knew she was trans, that the school is fundamentalist (lot of Presbys are mainstream).

We will learn more in time.

[Irish_Dem]

23. My daughter knew she was different from about age 5.

She is gay, and she looked, acted and felt different from her peer group.

Young children don't know the terms and words for any of this, they just know they don't fit in
and they are getting teased.

[niyad]

40. The school is apparently of the more "conservative" branch of pres, as has

been pointed out in a number of posts.

[mcar]

41. Hadn't seen it here and I haven't perused the others

Thanks.

[sarisataka]

5. Lots of assumptions are coming fast

And the outrage is, well changing

[BlackSkimmer]

10. Spot on. nt

[rustysgurl]

12. I attended RC school from 1st through 8th grades

and was bullied constantly to the point I asked my parents to transfer me to public school in 7th grade. They didn't and I was miserable. You don't have to be in middle or high school to get bullied or to feel out of place.

[niyad]

26. There have been several posts about pedophilia issues in that school that were

covered up, one in 2009, I believe.

[mcar]

38. Oh, well that would make the story different

Those kids and current teachers were still innocent, though.

[NullTuples]

42. But not the institution. Tragically, brains work that way sometimes. (IF that's the case)

[Ocelot II]

2. That's still just speculation, not evidence.

They have a "manifesto," so let's wait for that.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

4. Do you ever fall and hurt yourself

When jumping to conclusions?

[rustysgurl]

15. You win the snark badge for today ... congratulations. n/t

[Irish_Dem]

33. There are two kinds of people in this world:

Those who refuse to speculate under any circumstance.

Those who love to speculate, have good imaginations and can connect dots.

[BlackSkimmer]

6. I thought this school only goes to 6th grade?

Maybe I misheard.

[rustysgurl]

13. You think bullying only happens from 7th grade on? n/t

[Irish_Dem]

7. The GOP wants us to forget that lax gun laws in the US are the problem.

[maxsolomon]

9. Coming soon: an absolute shitshow.

How much hay can the Right make of it? Will they get anti-Trans bills over the finish line as a result?

[Initech]

16. They've already got a few passed.

This will give them an excuse to go full Nazi.

[scarletlib]

37. Great. One trans person out of hundreds of shooters will be blamed as if being trans caused it.

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Meanwhile all the murderous white men get a pass.

[Initech]

39. Yup, that's how it usually starts in this country.

[Initech]

14. Oh great, the conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this one.

[Kaleva]

18. Are we looking for excuses now?

[maxsolomon]

20. I thought we're always looking for excuses.

Anything but the guns.

[Kaleva]

22. It should be about the guns. Not just about incels or any other group.

[maxsolomon]

36. Trying to understand the motive, the WHY of it, is human nature.

As my shrink used to say, the question isn't WHY, but HOW.

[Irish_Dem]

25. IT IS ABOUT THE GUNS.

Other countries have mental illness but much lower murder rates.

ETA Gender issues are not mental illness.

[Kaleva]

28. Here's what the OP stated

"Nashville Shooter Former Student Identifies as Transgender [View all]
So her parents probably sent her to this school hoping to change her. Makes you wonder what she went through while a student there."

Nothing there about her having easy access to guns .

[Irish_Dem]

29. But didn't she use guns to kill six people?

Or did she use something else to kill the children and adults?

[Kaleva]

30. Do you agree with OP the shooter may have had reasons to kill children?

[Irish_Dem]

31. I don't understand your question.

[Kaleva]

32. Read the OP. No mention of guns in it

Do you agree with the OP?

[Irish_Dem]

34. I cannot answer your questions, sorry.

I thought the shooter used guns to kill people.
So we are discussing that. But you seem to be saying guns were not used.
So I am confused.

And I have no opinion about the OP.
I do have my own opinions based on science and facts.

[Kaleva]

44. Why don't you respond to the OP then

From the OP:

"Nashville Shooter Former Student Identifies as Transgender [View all]
So her parents probably sent her to this school hoping to change her. Makes you wonder what she went through while a student there."

You could say to the OP that you have your own opinions based on science and facts and not conjecture like what the OP did .

[inthewind21]

19. And how

do we know this? And what does it matter? All I can find is they found evidence of pro-nouns on social media and a manifesto with drawings of the school and what she planned to do. I've seen nor heard anything concrete that she was transgender. Maybe she was? But plastering it all over the internet like it makes a difference is just, well, I'll refrain. For now. She is a murderer who shot and killed 3 kids and 3 adults. Period! Gay, straight or trans gender make no difference.

[bluestarone]

21. I could give a shit about any of this. BUT

I'd like to know who got what INFO first? FOX NEWS???

[ColinC]

24. Oh great now we're gonna get a new narrative from the right

…now demonizing transgender kids as hateful, evil murderers and the problem isn’t guns, it’s transgender people.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Gender issues do not cause homicide.

[lostnfound]

43. Please don't blame the parents unless there is evidence of their guilt or cruelty

Sometimes bad things happen to offspring of good parents that breaks them.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

45. Every other shooter/mass murderer in history identifies as cis gender,

to my knowledge.

I suspect that christo-fascist environments, propaganda, and abuse that Hale was forcibly exposed to made Hale go off the rails.

[LeftInTX]

46. Audrey is her birth name

Aiden was another name she used

So, I don't know if she is transgender in the sense that there was a transition or if her gender is fluid. I believe she was born female, but appears to have male tendencies also. (Sorry if I"m not articulating this clearly) My husband has a niece like that. She's been in a limbo phase for years.


It seems more like her gender is fluid, so I don't know if this is trans or not...

I'm referring to her as "she" because her linked in is "Audrey".
Apparently, there was also an Aiden somewhere