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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMost Americans are totally ignorant of what a human body subjected to gunfire looks like.
So long as that persists, will anything change from an electoral/policy standpoint?
Would that even be enough, to have graphic photos of every shooting victim on your TV and social media and in your newspapers/magazines?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,127 posts)I've seen first hand what a bullet will do to human flesh and it ain't pretty.
Irish_Dem
(81,844 posts)This is one reason military vets have PTSD.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,127 posts)I used to tell my Marines that anyone who thinks war is glorious will be transferred out of my platoon, those type will get you injured or killed.
Irish_Dem
(81,844 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,606 posts)quit the both sides stories.
I don't know, but I suspect that most of these victims have closed caskets.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)as long as the parents sign off, which I'd imagine a good number WOULD if asked.
Maybe a big difference.
M$M shields people from the horror, and IMHO that needs to stop.
Walleye
(45,081 posts)I remember during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which was televised, they showed a picture of the guy who survived and his arm has been torn up by that gun. You dont often see these pictures. You dont soon forget them
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)missing body parts and with subtle brain damage rotated out of Nam.
Seeing the damage seems not to help.
Initech
(108,943 posts)It definitely is not. It's the opposite of a joke.
niyad
(133,100 posts)Artcatt
(344 posts)Timeflyer
(3,771 posts)so maybe gun control advocates should show what weapons of war do to living children's bodies. But privacy issues, and just the true horror...and would the gun humpers care?
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)and I have seen it and it is horrifying. HOWEVER, that was in the 80's when I was doing that and there was nothing like what it must be like now. Gun shot victims were not common but they were terrible to see. I cringe and worry about anyone needing to see and deal with it now with these weapons. To think of someone having a loved one, especially their child having to live with this the rest of their lives is unthinkable.
I do agree with some that a controlled ad campaign might help. "See this? This was a 6 year old before the gunman took them down." As much as I think that might help I somehow think it would not really make for a change and to put sensitive people already clued into this through those kinds of images is a tough decision to make.
We have to do something but I am clueless to what it might be.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)I dont know where you lived but the national murder rate by gun was far higher in the 80s than it is now. We have more mass shootings now but the overall murder rate is considerably lower than it was in the 80s and 90s. One example of many is NYC. In 1990 2,245 people were murdered there. In 2021, 327 people were murdered. Not everywhere had declines that dramatic but you get the point.
Thats not to minimize the type of mass violence were seeing now. We need to ban assault weapons, large magazines, and, if I had my way, handguns.
GenXer47
(1,204 posts)Someone posted a stat on Vermont - no mass shooting there, ever, but they have concealed carry at 16, no permit.
But the whole state has 645,000 people.
When I was in New York, briefly, every single car was stopped before crossing to Manhattan and some were searched.
This is possible in a dense place where there's only one route.
moonshinegnomie
(4,030 posts)every time a gun hugging politician has an event plaster photos of the result of a gunshot wound all over the vent.
dont let them escape from it
Kaleva
(40,378 posts)Heads explode into a bloody mush.
"From pinning people's faces into the walls with a ' knife to sawing a guy's limbs off with a chainsaw. This game takes the cake, it's so violent, it's not even funny...I mean, it's still a decent game."
Not saying video games cause violence but people can get desensitized .
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)the murder rate was high. It went way up in the 70s and continued to climb until the mid to late 90s. Its climbed some since the pandemic but its still not near the rate it was 30 years ago.