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RockRaven

(19,549 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:37 PM Mar 2023

Most Americans are totally ignorant of what a human body subjected to gunfire looks like.

So long as that persists, will anything change from an electoral/policy standpoint?

Would that even be enough, to have graphic photos of every shooting victim on your TV and social media and in your newspapers/magazines?

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Most Americans are totally ignorant of what a human body subjected to gunfire looks like. (Original Post) RockRaven Mar 2023 OP
Not me, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #1
+1 Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #2
For sure. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #4
Exactly. Being reality based when in a life and death situation is a real asset. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #5
For sure, the press should see some photos so they LakeVermilion Mar 2023 #3
I absolutely think it would make some difference, esp. with children Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #6
They never see it Walleye Mar 2023 #7
I never saw action back in my draftee days, but I saw lots of guys... TreasonousBastard Mar 2023 #8
No, they think that violence is funny. That it's a joke. Initech Mar 2023 #9
The gunhumping deathcultists would probably get off on those images. niyad Mar 2023 #10
Yup. Guns 'n' Ammo porn for them. Artcatt Mar 2023 #11
Anti-choice protesters display graphic fetal pictures outside women's health care clinics, Timeflyer Mar 2023 #12
Old ER and ICU nurse MuseRider Mar 2023 #13
It was worse in the 80s. Elessar Zappa Mar 2023 #16
New York is very dense GenXer47 Mar 2023 #18
we need to do the same thing the pro lifers do moonshinegnomie Mar 2023 #14
One can see it replicated very realistically in video games Kaleva Mar 2023 #15
Even before graphic video games, Elessar Zappa Mar 2023 #17

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,127 posts)
4. For sure.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:45 PM
Mar 2023

I used to tell my Marines that anyone who thinks war is glorious will be transferred out of my platoon, those type will get you injured or killed.

LakeVermilion

(1,606 posts)
3. For sure, the press should see some photos so they
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:44 PM
Mar 2023

quit the both sides stories.

I don't know, but I suspect that most of these victims have closed caskets.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. I absolutely think it would make some difference, esp. with children
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:02 PM
Mar 2023

as long as the parents sign off, which I'd imagine a good number WOULD if asked.

Maybe a big difference.

M$M shields people from the horror, and IMHO that needs to stop.

Walleye

(45,081 posts)
7. They never see it
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:07 PM
Mar 2023

I remember during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which was televised, they showed a picture of the guy who survived and his arm has been torn up by that gun. You don’t often see these pictures. You don’t soon forget them

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. I never saw action back in my draftee days, but I saw lots of guys...
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:20 PM
Mar 2023

missing body parts and with subtle brain damage rotated out of Nam.

Seeing the damage seems not to help.

Initech

(108,943 posts)
9. No, they think that violence is funny. That it's a joke.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:22 PM
Mar 2023

It definitely is not. It's the opposite of a joke.

Timeflyer

(3,771 posts)
12. Anti-choice protesters display graphic fetal pictures outside women's health care clinics,
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 08:56 AM
Mar 2023

so maybe gun control advocates should show what weapons of war do to living children's bodies. But privacy issues, and just the true horror...and would the gun humpers care?

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
13. Old ER and ICU nurse
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:21 AM
Mar 2023

and I have seen it and it is horrifying. HOWEVER, that was in the 80's when I was doing that and there was nothing like what it must be like now. Gun shot victims were not common but they were terrible to see. I cringe and worry about anyone needing to see and deal with it now with these weapons. To think of someone having a loved one, especially their child having to live with this the rest of their lives is unthinkable.

I do agree with some that a controlled ad campaign might help. "See this? This was a 6 year old before the gunman took them down." As much as I think that might help I somehow think it would not really make for a change and to put sensitive people already clued into this through those kinds of images is a tough decision to make.

We have to do something but I am clueless to what it might be.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
16. It was worse in the 80s.
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:49 AM
Mar 2023

I don’t know where you lived but the national murder rate by gun was far higher in the 80s than it is now. We have more mass shootings now but the overall murder rate is considerably lower than it was in the 80s and 90s. One example of many is NYC. In 1990 2,245 people were murdered there. In 2021, 327 people were murdered. Not everywhere had declines that dramatic but you get the point.

That’s not to minimize the type of mass violence we’re seeing now. We need to ban assault weapons, large magazines, and, if I had my way, handguns.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
18. New York is very dense
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 03:35 PM
Mar 2023

Someone posted a stat on Vermont - no mass shooting there, ever, but they have concealed carry at 16, no permit.
But the whole state has 645,000 people.
When I was in New York, briefly, every single car was stopped before crossing to Manhattan and some were searched.
This is possible in a dense place where there's only one route.

moonshinegnomie

(4,030 posts)
14. we need to do the same thing the pro lifers do
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:37 AM
Mar 2023

every time a gun hugging politician has an event plaster photos of the result of a gunshot wound all over the vent.
dont let them escape from it

Kaleva

(40,378 posts)
15. One can see it replicated very realistically in video games
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:44 AM
Mar 2023

Heads explode into a bloody mush.

"From pinning people's faces into the walls with a ' knife to sawing a guy's limbs off with a chainsaw. This game takes the cake, it's so violent, it's not even funny...I mean, it's still a decent game."

Not saying video games cause violence but people can get desensitized .

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
17. Even before graphic video games,
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:50 AM
Mar 2023

the murder rate was high. It went way up in the 70s and continued to climb until the mid to late 90s. It’s climbed some since the pandemic but it’s still not near the rate it was 30 years ago.

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