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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM Nov 2012

Tuesday night Mitt was already going to set groundwork for his re-election bid

Top Republican officials, stunned by the extent of their election losses Tuesday night, have begun an exhaustive review to figure out what went so wrong and how to fix it.

Party leaders said they already had planned to poll voters in battleground states starting Tuesday night in anticipation of a Mitt Romney victory — to immediately begin laying the groundwork for midterm congressional elections and a Romney 2016 reelection bid.

But as they watched one state after another go to President Obama and Senate seats fall away, party leaders quickly expanded and retooled their efforts. Officials told The Washington Post that they’re planning a series of voter-based polls and focus groups, meetings with constituency group leaders, and in-depth discussions with their volunteers, donors and staff members to find ways to broaden their appeal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/republican-party-begins-election-review-to-find-out-what-went-wrong/2012/11/08/74acf0fa-29d6-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html

These guys really did think they were going to win!



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get the red out

(13,468 posts)
1. "in-depth discussions with their volunteers, donors and staff members"
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:30 PM
Nov 2012

I guess the answers from that group would have been to double-down on racism, sexism, and job growth for China.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
10. a campaign that's almost all-white, supporters who are almost all white, is it any wonder...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nov 2012

that they didn't know what they were doing wrong as far as minorities were concerned?

lacking diversity is a surefire way to deprive yourself of information and an honest view of yourself.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. All this and yet
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:31 PM
Nov 2012

their idiotic Operation Orca GOTV effort fizzled out horribly on election day.

They really thought they were going to win and on top of that were so incredibly stupid I have a hard time believing they were able to get as far as they did.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
4. I don't know why this seems so hilarious to so many people.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:34 PM
Nov 2012

Obama did not win by that much. His EV victory was a good one, but the actual vote count was not so hot.

8.2 Million fewer voters voted for Obama than voted for him in 2008. THIS IS A PROBLEM.

This means that they wouldn't vote for Obama, they just wouldn't vote for Rmoney.

All the repukes are going to have to do is put up a candidate that seems moderate, and temper their public image, and 2016 is in jeopardy.

This is no laughing matter. We are going to have to work 10x harder in 2014 and 20x harder in 2016 to keep moving forward.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Good thing Obama isn't running again.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nov 2012

"8.2 Million fewer voters voted for Obama than voted for him in 2008. THIS IS A PROBLEM."

The vote totals aren't in, but I don't see a single problem. People went from predicting a close race with Romney winning the popular vote to Romney winning by a landslide.

Obama crushed it, and actually did better among several groups. Turnout was down, but if people are turned off by the economic climate, it is improving.

Still, Obama isn't running again, and he has huge leverage to lift Democrats for the next four years.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
11. i don't know why you're coming to conclusions before knowing the final vote total
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012


there are millions of votes not even in the count yet from California alone!

if you are jumping to conclusions because you're comparing part of the vote that's counted with final totals from 2008 that were finished a month after that election --then you don't know what you're talking about.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
12. Are you aware that perhaps up to ten million votes haven't been counted yet?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

Turnout down from 2008? Too soon to tell

He pointed out that two days after the 2008 election, nearly 10 million votes hadn’t yet been counted. To put that in perspective, a total of nearly 8.4 million votes were cast in Florida that year.

Among those votes still to be tallied from Tuesday’s election are absentee ballots and provisional ballots cast, for example, by voters who went to the wrong precinct. (Some of those provisional votes may ultimately be invalidated and would not be counted, however).

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054671-turnout-down-from-2008-too-soon-to-tell?lite

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
15. 3.3 million votes outstanding in California alone
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

California counts each and every valid vote and it takes about a month to finalize their totals, and though they rarely change the outcome, they change the totals substantially.

The votes in counted in CA would amount to a 40% turnout --which is ridiculous, it was far higher. That's how misleading it is to consider these partial numbers as being close to final.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
8. The DNC needs to poll voters in battleground states and in blue areas of red states. and in blue
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:41 PM
Nov 2012

states. The blue state information can be used to set models that can be used to build more support in battleground and red states. We need to take back all of Congress in 2014 and set the ground to elect a democratic President in 2016, while holding Congress.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
13. I was convinced for a while that Romney was pulling the biggest Madoff yet...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nov 2012

and wasn't all that interested in the Presidency but was in all that cash flashing before his eyes (I'm sure Bain got a nice chunk of that somewhere along the line) but maybe he and his buddies really are that stupid?

any way you look at it, the most perplexing campaign/candidate/supporters ever.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
14. You really have to care about the people of this country
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:57 PM
Nov 2012

and not just the people that make the most money
The money people are not strong enough to carry this country forward
they can only stall or take the country backwards

malaise

(269,114 posts)
16. When their way of dealing with folks like Nate Silver
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:54 PM
Nov 2012

was to call him effeminate, they deserve to be shell-shocked!

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