Memo to those who insist they carry an AR-15 or have a high capacity mag for their pistol

[Atticus]

for "self defense": who the hell do you think believes that nonsense?

I just read that most "gunfights" in which a carried weapon is used to defend the carrier last THREE seconds during which THREE shots are fired at a distance if THREE feet. That was stated by a big gun manufacturer in an article on YOUTUBE.

If that is true---and it sounds right---why do you need a 16 round pistol with a laser sight or--- an AR?

Maybe a larger question would be "Why are you so damned scared in a donut shop or a mall? What have you done that makes you fear others are 'comin' for ya'"?

You are a pathetic invertebrate that has been bullied and lied to by the mega-corporations who want to SELL you ever more deadly weapons which have killing people as their obvious purpose.

You don't NEED those weapons; you WANT them.

We all know why.

[AndyS]

1. The gun makers told them so. That's the only reason.

All available data says none of what gun makers say is true yet gun buyers sop it up with a biscuit and flock to gun stores to be price gouged for something totally useless for the things they've been told they need it for.

[sanatanadharma]

2. You may have objectively described the reality of pathetic invertebrates ...

... however our problem is their subjective self-identity of super-importance.

It always boils down to desire, but desires are not all equal.
I desire to live is not equal to I desire to kill.
Having a gun is equal to a willingness to kill.

Advertising markets to egoic super-importance.
YOU (not you) can't be without IT.

[MenloParque]

3. These gun humpin' militia bros hoard ammo and 30 rd mags

Because they know the US military will not be rolling down American street in tanks and drone striking neighborhoods. These dirtbags are planning on using their firepower on those “bootlickers” who comply with the Gubermint. I asked my 30 year old ex-military co-worker if he thinks he and his boys can take the US Government down with his ARs and AKs, his answer was they don’t need to fight the government, they plan on fighting me, a “complier”. Fuck these dudes are sick.

[sl8]

4. Could you share the link?

I wouldn't mind reading it.

Thanks.

[Bonx]

5. "We all know why." Ok, I'll bite: why?

[maxsolomon]

9. I'll guess the "small dick" cliche.

But that's not why. That's code for the feeling of power and the thrill the use of the weapons confer.

The OP is correct: gunners WANT these weapons. Barely anyone NEEDS a firearm: hunters, maybe ranchers.

[Bonx]

13. How does that work for women? Is there a differenet cliche?

[sarisataka]

15. Yes, but you don't want to know

What it is.

[sarisataka]

6. I only have a laser sight

On my 5 shot .38 revolver that has a barrel under 2".

Is that acceptable?

[maxsolomon]

10. Because it's you, we'll make an exception.

You don't seem particularly unstable.

[sarisataka]

12. Thank you, I appreciate that

Although I must confess my wife would disagree

[NewHendoLib]

7. shorter memo -

y'all are a bunch of chickenshit cowardly assholes.

[RegulatedCapitalistD]

8. Because these Racist Nutters

...think there is a Race War coming. They know White people are losing their majority status and they believe that will ultimately lead to the Race War and they will "win back their country" that way....Giving the Rich all the wealth doesn't seem to be stopping it....so they are now looking at a race war as the "final solution"...

[CatWoman]

11. you're preaching to the choir:

Link to tweet

[PJMcK]

20. Imagine how much money those weapons cost!

A quality AR-15 will set you back around $1,500.

A Glock 9-mm handgun is around $600.

Ammunition for all those guns would cost additional thousands of dollars.

I found those prices online.

This guy has dozens of weapons that probably equal the cost of a decent education. But he loves his guns so much he posed for a picture with them.

Pathetic.

[CatWoman]

22. it's beyond pathetic

I'm sure he has a point but it's completely, utterly lost on me.................

[LiberalFighter]

14. Those are the traits that attackers want.

[LexVegas]

16. So, in your world, anything over 3 rounds is high capacity? nt

[CatWoman]

17. what do you suppose the guy in post 11 thinks is high capacity?

[LexVegas]

19. Not sure. I can't make out whether any of the weapons in the picture have a magazine inserted.

What state is he in?

[Atticus]

21. So, in your world, it's ok to put words in people's mouth?

We live in the same world and no one not in uniform needs an AR-15 or a 16 round pistol.

[Timewas]

18. Average gun fight

Takes place within about 8 feet and 77% of shots fired miss.

[Conjuay]

24. I remember a gun fight between the law

and some robbers in a mall in Winter Park Fl where something like 85 rounds were fired and NO ONE was hit. It was back in the ‘90s, and I still can’t believe it.

[Timewas]

25. Happens a lot

Under face to face stress it is hard to really aim well apparently....

[NickB79]

23. The old 1994 AWB capped it at 10 rounds

That seems to be about right IMO.

[yagotme]

26. This guy used one:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-church-shooting-suspect-resident-sutherland-springs/

[Atticus]

27. Yes, and that's SO common. NOT! nt