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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:36 PM Nov 2012

Uh-oh! Supremes to hear challenge to Voting Rights Act

Wow -- didn't take them long, did it. This has me extremely worried.

Supreme Court to review key section of Voting Rights Act
Nov 09, 2012 08:41 PM EST
The Washington Post

The Supreme Court on Friday said it would decide the constitutionality of a signature portion of the Voting Rights Act.

The justices three years ago expressed skepticism about the continued need for Section 5 of the historic act, which requires states and localities with a history of discrimination, most of them in the South, to get federal approval of any changes in their voting laws.

It is the second important case involving race that the court has accepted this term. Last month, the justices heard a challenge to the University of Texas’s admissions policy that could redefine or eliminate the use of affirmative action in higher education.

The Section 5 requirements were passed during the darkest days of the civil rights struggle, paving the way for expanded voting rights for African Americans and greatly increasing the number of minority officeholders... MORE

[url] http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/supreme-court-to-review-key-section-of-voting-rights-act/2012/11/09/dd249cd0-216d-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html [/url]

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Uh-oh! Supremes to hear challenge to Voting Rights Act (Original Post) theHandpuppet Nov 2012 OP
I am very worried that they will take away LiberalLoner Nov 2012 #1
Do you even know what the court is? Indydem Nov 2012 #2
You could answer without the snark theHandpuppet Nov 2012 #3
No, I can't. Indydem Nov 2012 #5
Especially when the SCOTUS usurps a state's rights to vote recount. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #12
Then how the fuck do you explain that Citizen's United decision? lonestarnot Nov 2012 #13
Really? Indydem Nov 2012 #15
Suffrage for minorities and women is enshrined in the Constitution, so no, they can't do that. Geoff R. Casavant Nov 2012 #4
Thank you. LiberalLoner Nov 2012 #9
"The justices three years ago expressed skepticism . . ." Geoff R. Casavant Nov 2012 #6
Gerrymandering is not covered by Section 5. former9thward Nov 2012 #7
Good to know. I stand educated. Geoff R. Casavant Nov 2012 #10
It is that section that requires pre-clearance. former9thward Nov 2012 #14
I predict a 5-4 decision. Scuba Nov 2012 #8
I predict this will be upheld. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #11

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
1. I am very worried that they will take away
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

Suffrage for minorities and women too
Can they do that, does anyone know?

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
5. No, I can't.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

The Supreme court is not some dictatorship. The idea that the really can "legislate from the bench" is GD ludicrous.

The VRA defines what states can and cannot do in regards to voting guidelines.

The SCOTUS isn't going to turn around and say "BTW, no one but white land owners can vote."

Get real. People who are so ignorant as to not understand how the court works make every single one of the members of the DU look stupid.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
4. Suffrage for minorities and women is enshrined in the Constitution, so no, they can't do that.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

But if that portion of the VRA is struck down, it becomes easier for southern states to gerrymander their districts to effectively disenfranchise large blocs of minorities. I think it's probably impossible to gerrymander to disenfranchise women specifically.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
6. "The justices three years ago expressed skepticism . . ."
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

". . . about the continued need for Section 5 of the historic act."

Well, considering the number of times the DOJ has had to invalidate gerrymandering in several southern states in just the last two years, I'd say yes, there's a continued need.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
7. Gerrymandering is not covered by Section 5.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:05 PM
Nov 2012

Section Five covers changes to voting qualifications or standards. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights issued a report saying that the DOJ objected to less than 0.1% of changes submitted to the DOJ by voting jurisdictions.

The VRA does not just cover "Southern States". Non-south states include New York, Michigan, Alaska, Arizona, South Dakota, California and New Hampshire.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
10. Good to know. I stand educated.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:44 PM
Nov 2012

I had thought it was the section that required states with a history of discrimination to get pre-clearance from DOJ.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
14. It is that section that requires pre-clearance.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nov 2012

But it just covers changes in voter procedures (picture i.d for example) but it doesn't cover gerrymandering. Usually any gerrymandering challenge goes directly to the federal courts. The Supreme Court over the years (both liberal and conservative courts) has made it very tough to challenge gerrymandering. Usually it is only successful when the gerrymandering is done strictly on racial grounds. That is usually not the case.

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