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prodigitalson

(3,193 posts)
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:10 PM Apr 2023

How do you get 30+ charges out of the Stormy Daniels payoff?

Or even that plus the other woman he paid off?

Are these charges going to include a bunch of other financial crimes?

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How do you get 30+ charges out of the Stormy Daniels payoff? (Original Post) prodigitalson Apr 2023 OP
Each check written is a criminal count Thunderbeast Apr 2023 #1
Were the payments made in installments prodigitalson Apr 2023 #6
Cohen did not get repaid with one check, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #7
Possibly could indicate more crimes, but it's just as likely that... LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #2
As I undestand it, he is allegged to have falsified the 30 plus records... Thomas Hurt Apr 2023 #3
Business and tax fraud. roamer65 Apr 2023 #4
I once got 8 tickets for going around a truck blocking traffic. KentuckyWoman Apr 2023 #5
gotta wait til Tuesday mucifer Apr 2023 #8
They could have stuff we've never even heard about. I've got a secret wish that during Vinca Apr 2023 #9
It's not the payoffs, it's the fact that he used campaign funds fraudulently FakeNoose Apr 2023 #10
I don't think he paid with campaign funds prodigitalson Apr 2023 #13
And manufactured invoices, Delmette2.0 Apr 2023 #11
I'm thinking some tax evasion kimbutgar Apr 2023 #12
It seems unlikely the 30;plus counts prodigitalson Apr 2023 #14

prodigitalson

(3,193 posts)
6. Were the payments made in installments
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:18 PM
Apr 2023

or lump sums? Cohen got repaid with one check so I'm guessing he had already paid SD when tfg wrote Cohen the reimbursement check. I think we are dealing with four checks total. Two from Cohen to the women and two from Trump to Cohen. Maybe there are more women (each representing more checks and criminal counts)

gab13by13

(32,360 posts)
7. Cohen did not get repaid with one check,
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:24 PM
Apr 2023

he was repaid with 11 checks, some signed by Trump, some signed by Jr.

LuckyCharms

(22,683 posts)
2. Possibly could indicate more crimes, but it's just as likely that...
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:12 PM
Apr 2023

each count represents the falsification or unlawful use of each individual business related document (ie: each signed check, etc).

Thomas Hurt

(13,984 posts)
3. As I undestand it, he is allegged to have falsified the 30 plus records...
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:15 PM
Apr 2023

not sure what records exactly. Don't know if they were some kind of sworn documents. I am guessing that each was fraudulent.

KentuckyWoman

(7,408 posts)
5. I once got 8 tickets for going around a truck blocking traffic.
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:17 PM
Apr 2023

I think they just charge everything they can think of hoping something will stick. It isn't a strategy I agree with.

The judge threw out all but speeding and ended up siding with me on that one too.

Vinca

(54,012 posts)
9. They could have stuff we've never even heard about. I've got a secret wish that during
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:30 PM
Apr 2023

the grand jury hearing it was revealed that Trump paid off someone for an abortion just before the election.

FakeNoose

(41,702 posts)
10. It's not the payoffs, it's the fact that he used campaign funds fraudulently
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:39 PM
Apr 2023

If Chump had paid Stormy Daniels out of his own private account, it would have been legal and private. We never would have heard about it. But he didn't do that. He took money out of the campaign funds and paid it to Michael Cohen, who had originally paid off Daniels to keep her quiet. The payment to Cohen was reported fraudulently and that's where everything went haywire.

Campaign funds come from donations and the laws are very clear how that money must be used and reported. There are New York State laws that control how the money is to be used, spent only for campaign items, and then reported for taxes. Chump broke the law and we already know from Michael Cohen's plea testimony (and subsequent conviction) how it was done. Chump lied about it and thought he got away with everything for years.

Of all the charges Chump is facing now and in the future, this is the only indictment for actions before he became President. All the other stuff that will come out of Georgia and Dept. of Justice will be for things he did as the sitting President. High Crimes in Office, you might say. This indictment from New York County is probably the least serious of all, and yet there's a mountain of evidence to prove his guilt.

prodigitalson

(3,193 posts)
13. I don't think he paid with campaign funds
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 05:53 PM
Apr 2023

He paid Cohen with Trump org. company money. The campaign finance part is that he didn't report the payoff as a contribution since it was meant to keep the story out of the public view hence affecting the election.

kimbutgar

(27,259 posts)
12. I'm thinking some tax evasion
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:55 PM
Apr 2023

He wrote off the payments as business deductions and something tells me there are charges related to the National Enquirer catch and kill stories About the orange maggot.

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