Survey: 1 In 8 Florida Incoming Freshmen Plan To Flee DeSantis's Education Policies

[Sancho]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2023/03/31/survey-1-in-8-florida-incoming-freshmen-plan-to-flee-desantiss-education-policies/

A survey released today finds that among Florida’s incoming college freshmen, dissatisfaction with Governor Ron DeSantis’s education policies runs deep—in some cases, deep enough to make them look for college opportunities in another state.

In March, Intelligent.com surveyed over 1,000 Florida students, including 783 still in high school and 364 current undergrads. Among the survey’s findings:

91% of prospective college students disagree with the governor’s policies.

DeSatan is the worst...

[Celerity]

1. Slack jawed yokel Floriduh Rethug voters and pols love the prospect of a state full of dullards.

Stupid is as stupid votes.

[samplegirl]

2. Good for them

They are smart to look elsewhere!

[genxlib]

3. It can be very difficult to leave due to economics

I live in Florida with a daughter in college.

She desperately wanted to leave the state and we were able to accommodate her. But it will end up costing us in excess of 100k to make that happen. I am extraordinarily fortunate to be in a position to make that work without going into a lot of debt.

I could describe the details but the bottom line is that Florida schools for Floridians is a quarter the cost of other state out-of-state tuition. Add on top of that the Bright Futures scholarships that are offered to Florida kids that stay in Florida schools and the finances are extraordinarily skewed to keep kids in Florida. And that doesn't even include the kids who need to live at home while matriculating.

Just know that there are lots of people who may want out but the economics are a prison to most of them.

[Delphinus]

7. Oh my ...

your last sentence states it so well for all these other states that are making it difficult for sane folk to live there.

I am retired but my husband still works. When he retires, any move will be looked at through the lens of climate change. And what kind of sucks is that Indiana is probably one of the best places to be to face that.

[jimfields33]

9. Yeah the law passed that grandparents residence can be included for in state tuition

has saved students a ton of money. Maybe other states should follow. This is one law Florida did right.

[genxlib]

13. Interesting. I had not seen that previously

A quick look up shows that it has some fairly high academic standards to qualify. So in that sense, it is probably more like a scholarship program to keep from turning away smart kids for financial reasons.

I agree it is the right thing to do. But I would rather see it be even more evened out but that is better than most states.

In general, I have had to admit that Florida is a better value in higher education than anything else I looked at. Generally, they have been doing it right.

Until now that is.

[piddyprints]

4. Bright Futures Scholarship

It's a lot of money for students to refuse and is only good for Florida colleges. I'd guess a percentage of students who have won the scholarship have no choice but to stay, unless they can afford to pay full tuition in another state.

Also, they might be hit with out-of-state tuition for the first year if they go to a public university in another state.

It's yet another reason college should be free in this country. I'm sure plenty of students would like to leave Florida and won't be able to.

[genxlib]

8. See my post above for a first hand account

I would add that in my experience, you get stuck paying for out-of-state tuition for all four years.

It can be very hard to establish residency in a state for the purposes of tuition. We looked into it for Ohio and the kid basically needs to be financially independent and making all of their own money in the state. Just living there isn't enough.

Short of moving the family to Ohio, it just isn't parctical.



https://blog.collegevine.com/can-i-establish-residency-and-qualify-for-in-state-tuition/#:~:text=If%20you%20aren%E2%80%99t%20genuinely%20interested%20in%20becoming%20a,establish%20residency%20for%20the%20purposes%20of%20in-state%20tuition.

[piddyprints]

10. Yes, I read it.

We must have been writing at the same time, only you were faster.

Our daughter moved out of Florida and established residency in another state on her own. It wasn't easy. I don't know how she did it, but she got a job in a restaurant immediately and was also able to work for the college. I don't remember what she did specifically for that job. She did need to take out school loans.

The other daughter won a full ride with her Bright Futures Scholarship, but joined the Air Force after one semester and never looked back.

Neither one of them could wait to leave the state, and that was 20 years ago.

[OrlandoDem2]

5. True but after college graduation they may easily leave for jobs elsewhere.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a brain drain. A lot of people I talk to in Florida are kicking around the idea of moving. Blue Floridians could turn Georgia solid blue and even help North Carolina become light blue.

[bearsfootball516]

6. The Dem Party organizations in Georgia, Texas and North Carolina should be pushing for these grads

[Lovie777]

11. Seems like a quite a few high school seniors that are going to a 4 year college.....

university do not plan to go by way of the south.

[tinrobot]

12. Driving liberals from the state is precisely the plan.

Those 1 in 8 probably are the most liberal and most likely to vote. Getting them to leave helps to cement a slim GOP majority.

[Raftergirl]

14. Most kids

have no choice but to go to state schools. That is how it is in every state.

There will be students from other states who will not apply to Florida state schools or private colleges/universities in Florida.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Also, I don't see reputable PhDs taking academic positions in the Florida University system.

No one wants their research to be stopped or destroyed.
Or being told how and what they teach.

Teaching in Florida will look very bad on their resumes.

It is career suicide anyway you slice it.