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Can the non-and never-rumpers of all flavors, collectively, impact the 2024 cycle? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 OP
Not Sure What You Mean ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #1
Do you mean impact for better, impact for worse, or either? RockRaven Apr 2023 #2
You bet! Some of them are poll workers and they won't be working for us. Runningdawg Apr 2023 #3
Reportedly Trump received 10% of Obama voters in 2020. kentuck Apr 2023 #4
I think those voters already had an impact in 2020 tinrobot Apr 2023 #5
Probably Not Deep State Witch Apr 2023 #6
All we have now is the media picks. Ron and Don pwb Apr 2023 #7

ProfessorGAC

(65,173 posts)
1. Not Sure What You Mean
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 05:14 PM
Apr 2023

I think the results in 2020 suggest that some "non-Trump" messaging had an effect.
Admittedly, I don't know how much but national elections are won on the margins

RockRaven

(15,001 posts)
2. Do you mean impact for better, impact for worse, or either?
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 05:16 PM
Apr 2023

Because I think it is possible for either, but there are too many unknowns to predict which way if any right now.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
4. Reportedly Trump received 10% of Obama voters in 2020.
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 06:48 PM
Apr 2023

That would be over 6 million Democratic votes. Probably more than the number of "never-Trumpers"?

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
5. I think those voters already had an impact in 2020
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 07:11 PM
Apr 2023
Biden did 10 points better than Hillary Clinton among Independents, and he doubled her showing among moderate and liberal Republicans. He improved on her performance among two swing religious groups—Catholics (up 5 points) and mainline Protestants (up 6). Most important, he raised the Democratic share of suburban voters by 9 points, from 45 to 54%, and among White suburban voters, from 38 to 47%.


https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/06/new-2020-voter-data-how-biden-won-how-trump-kept-the-race-close-and-what-it-tells-us-about-the-future/

I would think "moderate and liberal" Republicans would include quite a few "never that guy" voters.

pwb

(11,288 posts)
7. All we have now is the media picks. Ron and Don
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 09:11 PM
Apr 2023

will be overtaken by someone who makes sense to all America. IMO.

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