Making physical threats against a DA and threatening violence against a judge

[lees1975]

are both against the law. That's not free speech.

An ordinary American who did such things would be charged, and then held until trial. Those actions would also add to their sentence when convicted.

Why isn't anyone standing up to this bully? He's under secret service protection, order his detail to hand him over for arrest and stick him in a cell in New York until his trial, or at least, issue a gag order.

Why can't we seem to make our laws work in this country when it comes to the failed former President? He's had more free television time this past week than anyone in history, which is ridiculous.

It's beginning to look like pushing for a dictatorship in America is easier than it was in Europe in the 30's.

[Blue Owl]

1. Double Down, Diarrhea Donny

DOUBLE DOWN!

[Irish_Dem]

2. And threatening violence against the American people by encouraging riots and insurrection.

Why does Trump have all the rights and protections?
And the rest of us do not?

[lees1975]

3. My vote would go to any politician who would stand up to this ridiculous and illegal bullying

and did the right thing.

[Irish_Dem]

7. +1

Any politician who seems to care more about the American people than getting votes and receiving dark money.

[soldierant]

12. Stand-up politicians would help, certainly (and we have some)

but not with getig him locked up pre-trial. That's a judicial matter.

And judges are not easy to put into office, and not easy to replace, and that most of the time is a good thing.

[Beastly Boy]

14. Trump is getting all the rights and protections because he is entitled to them.

Everyone in the US is entitled to the same rights and protections, but many people don't get them. Yet, this issue keeps coming up at every mention of Trump.

Why wouldn't we want Trump to get all the protections he is entitled to? Would it be more just if he didn't?

And why don't we get equally outraged, regardless of Trump, over someone NOT getting them instead?

[lees1975]

15. He is not entitled to threaten DA's with physical violence or openly blast a judge sitting on a case

in which he is a defendant. That's against the law. An ordinary American would be jailed and held for trial for doing that, and then charged and lose any mercy in their sentencing.

Trump is certainly entitled, far more than any ordinary American citizen. He's entitled to break the law and get away with it. And it is time for that to stop and for people who have the authority to use it against him. Being photographed with a baseball hat aimed at the DA's head is a crime that warrants his being held in jail until trial, or at the very least, placed under a gag order.

Otherwise, we are not a nation of laws and we are deceiving ourselves saying that is so.

[Beastly Boy]

20. The question I responded to was far more general than the subject of the OP

"Why does Trump have all the rights and protections?"
It didn't raise the question of whether he is entitled to break the law. Or what an ordinary American would experience i a similar situation.

But, since you raised these issues, I will state the obvious: Trump is not entitled to break the law and get away with it. The photograph you are talking about is a composite of two images not created by Trump, and is not evidence of a crime or even suspicion of a crime. There is no such thing as a crime that warrants anyone being places under a gag order or being held in jail without cause. These conditions are decided by a judge, on an individual basis. They are not imposed arbitrarily, automatically or by default. Likewise, a crime is not a crime unless and until a jury decides it is.

Posting on DU does not meet the legal criteria to warrant arrest, or detention, or indictment, or conviction, or incarceration. Thank goodness we are a nation of laws.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

4. Justice does not yet have its sword yet, that begins when the writ is dropped. Needs a sharpening.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. He'll weasel out saying "It's technically not a threat!" . . . .nt

[Just A Box Of Rain]

6. Give him enough rope.

[republianmushroom]

8. like it

the poster nails it.

[mitch96]

9. I think he is pushing it so he DOES get arrested and thrown in jail to push his agenda...

He thinks his "base" will throw another insurrection like Jan6 and he will be king...uff
He does not care about anybody but himself... on second thought he likes his money also...
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[crickets]

21. That may be part of his strategy. I'm okay with it.

The thing is, after a few loud days of histrionics from Republicans and a handful of flag-wavers starting a tussle or two that might even land them in jail as well, the country would go back to a blissful lack of the bluster and noise from the orange one.

Ahhh...

[BigmanPigman]

11. I know, I know!!,

I've have a bruised head for the past 7 years after continuously banging it against a wall over this issue.

[ShazzieB]

13. We don't know what the judge is going to do at the hearing.

Let's see what happens on Tuesday. Trump may just get a nasty surprise or two. 🤞

[Joinfortmill]

16. Completely agree. I think they fear a riot. Not gonna happen

[ColinC]

17. What if -because of these actions, he ends up not being released after arraignment?

And is ordered to house arrest until his trial (or in a more fair world, jail).

[Martin68]

18. Donald Trump should be investigated and charged with every single crime he commits.

Threatening a judge, a district attorney, or a prosecutor is not protected are speech. Apply the same law to Trump that would be applied to each of us.

[Kablooie]

19. And he's trying to taint the jury pool.

He knows his rants will help sway many people to his side.

Will the judge treat him as he would anyone else who did this or will he let him get away with it?

[lees1975]

22. On the contrary, his support, while rallying some Republicans

is shrinking among the electorate. People are tired of hearing the name and they're sick of his antics. He has nut jobs, goons and as Hillary Clinton so aptly put it, deplorables. But he's losing a lot of what might have been marginal support for him in an election. Yeah, there's some cultural nut jobs who buy into all of this culture war crap and masculinity crap, but there are a lot more who see this as violent fascism and they don't like it.

We will see what the judge does, but I expect a gag order. I am hoping that he would be treated the same way any other defendant who made violent threats would be treated, held until trial without bail.

[Shipwack]

23. For some reason I read that heading as,

“Making physical threats against a DA and threatening violence against a judge is no way to go through life, son.”



(Where’s that from, “Animal House”?)

[AllyCat]

24. Hell, people peacefully protesting outside a SC Justice house

Was cause for the right wing to demand investigations and all over the news media.

[Initech]

25. Yeah he's not really helping his case as to why he shouldn't be imprisoned.

If anything he's making it worse.