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(45,527 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,111 posts)IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)🙏 😊
Archae
(46,347 posts)With Tom Snyder.
ImNotGod
(134 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)Watch Now: Charles Manson's 5 Most Outrageous TV Interviews
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3. TODAY WITH HEIDI SCHULMAN (1987)
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Among Charlies most volcanic declarations were these doozies:
Ive never killed anyone. Maybe I should have killed 400 or 500 people. Then I would have felt better. Then I should have felt like I really offered society something.
You know, if I wanted to kill somebody Id take this book and beat you to death with it and wouldnt feel a thing. Itd be just like walking to the drug store.
Believe me, if I started murdering people thered be none of you left.
Finally, upon parting, Manson turned to Schulman and said, You know youre about 10 pounds overweight, dont you? Im just telling you. Thats all. Im just sayin.
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This interview still haunts me - so chilling, and so chillingly trump like.
kacekwl
(7,021 posts)Was in prison at the time (where empty green should be among others) His name is synonymous with pure evil.
iscooterliberally
(2,863 posts)He's the Manson of politics. I remember years ago when they interviewed Manson. I think it was in 1989. I was playing in bands and some of the musicians I knew were walking around quoting some the stupid crap that Manson said. I never understood the appeal. The guy just said whatever stupid crap popped into his head and some idiot would go around repeating it like it was cool. TFG and MTG have the same appeal, which is NONE. They all need to be sent packing. I hope MTG and TFG both go to prison for what they have done.
Shermann
(7,440 posts)...and proudly serving them up like gourmet restaurant chefs.
It's all in the delivery.
ImNotGod
(134 posts)rep today they would welcome him with open arms, maybe put him on the crime committee.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Leslie is still convinced there's a feel-good story in there someplace.
Boomerproud
(7,964 posts)Traildogbob
(8,812 posts)Response nailed it. That is considered a MSM follow up.
Upthevibe
(8,072 posts)MayReasonRule
(1,461 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,078 posts)with Alzheimers. She admitted that she saw Reagan often and knew before his second election campaign that he was not mentally all there, but she stayed silent. Essentially she knew that Nancy and top advisors would be running the government if he was re-elected, but she stayed silent. I lost a lot of respect for her after that, though its fair to say that the whole White House press pool also stayed silent even though most of them would have observed Reagans decline but decided that voters should not know that they were voting for a man who was developing serious cognitive issues to lead the free world.
Farmer-Rick
(10,212 posts)The current crop of corporate media reporters are all about helping the oligarchy keep their power and stolen loot.
So they hide their dirty little secrets for them.... without even being asked. And they publicize the propaganda in the name of fair and equitable journalism. Cons and manipulation.
dchill
(38,539 posts)hunter
(38,328 posts)What I saw was a confused old man who didn't know where the hell he was or what he was doing there.
They pushed Reagan behind the podium and it was lights, camera, action! A bit of the old acting skills flickered to life and he managed to say a few lines. Then he was gone.
Astonished I went home and turned on the television news. Had anyone seen what I had seen? Nope. All they showed was the clip, and ha, ha, everything is wonderful and wasn't it great the President was visiting!
The newspaper reporting was no different.
I began to doubt myself, thinking yeah, it must be exhausting for an old guy to travel around like that on Air Force One and limos.
As it turned out, what I witnessed was reality.
Not that it mattered. Even before Reagan began to lose his marbles he'd sold his soul to the devil and enthusiastically embraced his greatest acting role as a fascist meat puppet.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)most venerated news magazine.
That how one slows the rise of populist extremism in my estimation.
I'm grateful to Lesley Stahl and 60 Minutes for shining a light on Greene's extremism and her brazen dishonesty.
NewHendoLib
(60,021 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)pwb
(11,291 posts)it appears you are quit alone on this. Not necessarily wrong but Earl's the boss eh?
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)and a few word that MTG expressed as well. Shall we?
Here are some from Stahl:
Known for her sharp tongue and radical views
has a history of believing in conspiracy theories
Words that have been said about you: crazy, Q clown, looney tune, unhinged, moron, pretty ugly stuff
People say you are Trump in high heel,..many consider MTGs behavior outlandish, even thuggish
Thats glib, thats glib, what does that mean?
Greene complains about the news media for harping on things she did in the past, likeas in this video [rolls tape] chasing after the survivor of the Parkland FL school shooting [then showing the evidence of Greene berating a shooting survivor]
And things shes says that are over-the top, like the Democrats are the part of pedophiles"
They are NOT pedophiles! What would you day that?!
Wow! [roll-eyes]...
Shortly after she arrived in Washington the Democratic-led House outside her from her committees because of her past endorsement of violence against some Democrats and her embrace of Q-Anon [rolls tape as evidence]
Did you ever apologize to Nancy Pelosi for the bullet to her head? [displays a liked Facebook post calling for Pelosi to be shot]
Did you apologize for your position on Parkland Florida [shows support for Facebook calling the shootings a false flag attack as Greene denies it]
Here are some of the things youve said: That America should have a Christian government, that abortion should be banned nationally, that you want to defend the FBI? You want immigration to stop, you want 4 years, youve said those things, correct? MTG agrees]
The Constitution, the very first amendment, prohibits having a religion in government
The latest nation poll shows her approval rating at just 29%.
And here are some words for Marjorie Taylor Greene's own mouth:
Margorie is crazy. Margorie is extreme. Margorie is a right-wing extremist
They call me racist. They call me anti Semitic
What made me run for Congress when [sic] I saw the Republicans in Congress, the House and the Senate, completely fail to deliver the agenda that we had all voted for
They failed us.. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, yea, those types, Mitt Romney, Im not even sure why he calls himself a Republican.
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Not exactly an endorsement of Republican fascism. LOL
pwb
(11,291 posts)I won't be convinced either way. Still not watching it. I don't like her.
Cha
(297,692 posts)happens to feel about the Stahl interview of mtg like I do & Visa Versa.
Lunabell
(6,110 posts)They're fairly new here. With LOTS of hidden posts.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)Nothing about sharing a stage with a Holocaust denying white nationalist. But the weight room stuff was cool!
niyad
(113,576 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)In my youth, the air in Los Angeles was often orange-brown and ones windpipe would burn from simply breathing out of doors.
Thank goodness for progressive liberalism.
orleans
(34,073 posts)Richard D
(8,774 posts)TeamProg
(6,247 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Today we dig up Charles Manson to interview him on the current state of the Republican Party!
And once they get him dug up
Mr. Manson, what is your opinion on the current Republican Party?
Those guys are crazier than I am!
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Rec.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,567 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)No link. I was watching an interview she did and that statement just jumped out at me. It was probably about 2 years back.
Cha
(297,692 posts)this interview?
..what a tool, imo.
TY
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)KS Toronado
(17,327 posts)Lesley Stahl didn't go after mtg more aggressively.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Contact Information
ADDRESS: 60 Minutes. 524 West 57th St. New York, NY 10019.
EMAIL: 60min@cbsnews.com.
PHONE: (212) 975-3247.
CBS HEADQUARTERS EXECUTIVES: 1-212-975-4321.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Sunlight is the best disinfectant. That was tue when CBS took down Joe MCCarthy, and it is true today.
Kudos to CBS News.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)the sarcasm emoji, right?
Seriously, there's enough good analysis here on other DU threads for anyone on this thread to launch a major criticism of why CBS and TV news should NEVER be normalizing the Freedom Caucus and the rest of Koch-bought GOP leaders.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)MAGA extremism was not "normalized" in my estimation, rather it was exposed.
That's the precisely the same way that Joe McCarthy was taken down.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)You saw it, right? And you think it did more to expose MTG than to normalize her?
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)I think Lesley Stahl and 60 Minutes did the nation a great service.
We would benefit from greater exposure of the populist extremist loons who are a threat to liberal democracy in this nation.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)that isn't already extremely widely known about her?
The media already gives an enormous amont of exposure to Greene, and other popular extremist loons. Giving her a respected national platform so spread those extremist views helps normalize them.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Left-of-center political junkies or the types of everyday Americans who watch 60 Minutes and are likely unaware of the myriad examples of nuttery that Stahl exposed? And that was only scratching the surface. I wish Stahl had the full hour, which still wouldn't be enough time.
I don't think any aspect of the 60 Minutes profile "normalized" Greene. She came off very badly.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)Anyone inclined to think badly of her already does. There absolutely no reason to give her a platform on a well-respected mainstream news show.
Remember all those people who wanted Trump to be candidate in 2016 because no one would actually vote for him? You seriously underestimate the stupidity of people inclined to like the likes of Trump or Greene. Treating her a person deserving of national attention definitely normalized her, now matter how she came off in your perception.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)even if they have a limited understanding how deep and how wide Greene's extremist behavior and crazy actions have been. Stahl's report may have added to these people knowledge of specifics, but few if any people who disliked her before seeing the program are likely to change any minds. That's absolutely true.
But there are many people in America who don't know what Greene is all about, and exposing her nuttery to a mass audience is vital. That you reference the "stupidity of people" should--I would think--lead you to embrace informing these people, so they are not sucked in to supporting this contemptible and dishonest bigot in the way some went for Trump. We've unfortunately been down that road.
Greene was not "platformed," instead her nuttery was exposed to scrutiny and she came off looking very bad.
What Greene "deserves" is close scrutiny. She is already gaining political power. She is not remotely "normal," and the 60 Minutes profile did not "normalize" her. It did the exact opposite.
60 Minutes is a well-respected mainstream news show because they put forward programs such as these. Americans trust them as a source and Lesley Stahl validated that trust.
This is an important work of journalism.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)You can expose someone and scrutinize them closely without giving them a national platform. Rather than dissuading anyone from supporting her, this fiasco simply amplified her message.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)It's the same deal.
Should we fail to prosecute Trump for his crimes because, being the grifter that he is, he will attempt to enrich himself in the process? I think the obvious answer is no.
So not surprise that Greene pulls the same stunts. Lesley Stahl referred to Greene as "Trump in a dress," and that's pretty spot-on.
We can not be deterred from going after populist extremists who embrace violence because those people will try to fundraise off being exposed.
I disagree entirely that people won't be dissuaded from supporting her. The piece was very damning. The 60 Minutes audience is probably made up of the most persuadable cohort of people in this country. And these people tune into the show as a source they've trusted for a long time.
I think Stahl did an excellent job of laying out the case--as good as anyone could do in 13 minutes (which is really insufficient time) and we ought to be thankful for her service to liberal democracy.
durablend
(7,465 posts)"Tell us about all the PAIN and SORROW and ANGUISH you've been going through"
llashram
(6,265 posts)the feel is all that and more with me
Paladin
(28,273 posts)A thousand thanks, EarlG.
llmart
(15,553 posts)It's also the reason I don't pay for TV.
Cha
(297,692 posts)for a few.
Not for me, either.
SunImp
(2,228 posts)different opinion on this. I doubt that they are brave enough to give you one of their obnoxious scoldings though
niyad
(113,576 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,636 posts)yonder
(9,676 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)It was pathetic and I'm sorry to say that I DVR their show every Sunday. I think this is the end for me.
twodogsbarking
(9,814 posts)Scrivener7
(51,014 posts)To each their own.
I thought the OP was great.
Cha
(297,692 posts)Initech
(100,104 posts)Permanut
(5,642 posts)EarlG has created one here.
yardwork
(61,711 posts)Dorn
(523 posts)'News' now is click bait as is most of the internet -- get eyes, get clicks, and get ad revenue.
Cha
(297,692 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)czarjak
(11,296 posts)Of course?
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,073 posts)RainCaster
(10,916 posts)I loved it. No "sarcasm" tag needed.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)I guess leslie has drunk the "set a new precedent" kool-aid. There is a great job waiting for her at Fux Nooze.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)KY......
usonian
(9,885 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Ask if you need help creating more.
But some antics of our media are hard to top.
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FOR YOU GRAPHIC ARTISTS OUT THERE:
Edit Away.
German postcard, ca. 1936 (Bavarian State Library)
Aussie105
(5,436 posts)then the interview may be an eye opener, like 'Wow, this lady is a bit of a nut case!'
That is the good part of it.
If you have seen her brand of extremism before, like we all here have, you might resent the free exposure she got, you might even think she was normalised to a certain extent.
Good or bad, depends on your perspective.
I still think 60 minutes should have recorded it but not aired it.