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Pic Of The Moment: Next Week On 60 Minutes (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2023 OP
K & R n/t FSogol Apr 2023 #1
Now that got a chuckle 🤭 Ray Bruns Apr 2023 #2
The many arrests of Republicans is proof of this Deep State Qonspiracy IronLionZion Apr 2023 #3
Thanks to CBS for exposing themselves so clearly as to which side they are really on. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #4
Manson did do a TV interview. Archae Apr 2023 #5
and ABC's Diane Sawyer in 94. nt ImNotGod Apr 2023 #9
Manson's most chilling & so chillingly trump like interview was w/Heidi Schulman (NBC 1987) AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2023 #26
The difference being is Manson kacekwl Apr 2023 #52
This is how I feel about TFG iscooterliberally Apr 2023 #6
Cult leaders tend to be prolific at tossing word salads Shermann Apr 2023 #70
I remember the Diane Sawyer/ Manson interview back in '94, Manson would be perfect for republican ImNotGod Apr 2023 #7
The Gaslighting! The Disrespect! What about OBJECTIVITY!!! tenderfoot Apr 2023 #8
LOL. hay rick Apr 2023 #10
Absolutely brutal but deserved. Boomerproud Apr 2023 #11
The "Wow" Traildogbob Apr 2023 #23
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Apr 2023 #12
Dead On Point -------------- Literally. MayReasonRule Apr 2023 #13
Many years ago, I read Lesley Stahl's book (forgot its name) written after Reagan was diagnosed Lonestarblue Apr 2023 #14
Yup, yup, yup Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #15
IOKIYAR. dchill Apr 2023 #16
It was insane. I saw Reagan at a quick public appearance during his second term. hunter Apr 2023 #50
I think it was very valuable to expose Greene's lunacy to the American public on television's Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #17
are you still at this? I think you stand alone here at DU for defending this. NewHendoLib Apr 2023 #19
Far from alone. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #20
Reviewing the post replies pwb Apr 2023 #56
Let's examine some of the things Lesley Stahl had to say in the interview Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #61
No. You shouldn't have taken so much time to reply. pwb Apr 2023 #63
I look at it this way.. the Admin Cha Apr 2023 #77
Aw, leave rain alone. Lunabell Apr 2023 #65
Hey at least we know how much she can dead-lift! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2023 #33
What colour is the sky in your world? niyad Apr 2023 #44
Blue. Thanks to the efforts of Democrats to protect us from grotesque levels of air pollution. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #53
"wow" nt orleans Apr 2023 #58
LOL Spazito Apr 2023 #68
Perfection in a meme (nt) Richard D Apr 2023 #18
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Apr 2023 #21
With special guest interviewer Geraldo Rivera? jmowreader Apr 2023 #22
Not big on memes, but this one is well done. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #24
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #25
Stahl once referred to MSNBC as a leftwing extreme news source during an interview. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2023 #27
What does that make Stahl after Cha Apr 2023 #71
Maybe Stahl will join Lara Logan over at NewsMax. They have 60 Minutes & poor journalism in common AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2023 #28
I was disappointed KS Toronado Apr 2023 #29
Contact info for 60 Minutes, if anyone wants to give direct feedback. ancianita Apr 2023 #30
Great, I should thank CBS for carrying on the fine tradition of Edward R Murrow and CBS News. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #34
You forgot ancianita Apr 2023 #36
No sarcasm on my part. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #37
Okay, then. ancianita Apr 2023 #39
Absolutely. 100%. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #40
What was exposed Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #41
+1 SunImp Apr 2023 #46
Think maybe we're talking about perception bias here? I'm just wondering. ancianita Apr 2023 #48
Known by whom? Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #49
Badly to whom? Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #82
Those who are inclined to think badly of Greene almost certainly do already, Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #83
It was so bad she's already using it in ads she's running for herself. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #84
Trump is fundraising off his indictment. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #85
I'm waiting for her exclusive with TFG durablend Apr 2023 #31
K and R. Mosby Apr 2023 #32
excellent llashram Apr 2023 #35
Dead. Solid. PERFECT. Paladin Apr 2023 #38
This is what passes for TV journalism these days. llmart Apr 2023 #42
Yeah, apparently that's what passes Cha Apr 2023 #72
Uh oh, some special princesses out there are probably extremely disappointed in you now for having a SunImp Apr 2023 #43
you nearly owed me a keyboard. niyad Apr 2023 #45
Kick dalton99a Apr 2023 #47
Nailed it MustLoveBeagles Apr 2023 #51
Well done Earl G. That perfectly highlights CBS' decision. yonder Apr 2023 #54
Has 60 Minutes destroyed itself? They earned every lampoon with the MTG piece. bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #55
Agree 100% - Mike Wallace turned over in his grave yesterday FakeNoose Apr 2023 #69
I would never use Manson in a humor piece. twodogsbarking Apr 2023 #57
I would never give empty green a platform bigger than the one she already has. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #60
It's not funny.. it's exposing Stahl. Cha Apr 2023 #73
Marjorie Greene represents the worst of us. Initech Apr 2023 #59
Once in a while, satire is done perfectly.. Permanut Apr 2023 #62
Perfect! yardwork Apr 2023 #64
All broadcast news ended when the Fairness Doctrine ended Dorn Apr 2023 #66
Thank You!! Cha Apr 2023 #67
CBS has joined Fox -- off my tv. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2023 #74
"Hitler wad ONLY lowering the karma level of the Jews." czarjak Apr 2023 #75
lol BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #76
Excellent, EarlG! RainCaster Apr 2023 #78
60 mins doesn't usually do such a huge disservice to our country SouthernDem4ever Apr 2023 #79
K&R. Put this on a billboard on the DC Beltway. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2023 #80
KEEP 'EM COMING! usonian Apr 2023 #81
+1 dalton99a Apr 2023 #86
If you have never seen MTG in action before, Aussie105 Apr 2023 #87

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,251 posts)
26. Manson's most chilling & so chillingly trump like interview was w/Heidi Schulman (NBC 1987)
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:16 PM
Apr 2023
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/watch-now-charles-mansons-5-most-outrageous-tv-interviews

Watch Now: Charles Manson's 5 Most Outrageous TV Interviews

- snip -

3. TODAY WITH HEIDI SCHULMAN (1987)

- snip -

Among Charlie’s most volcanic declarations were these doozies:

“I’ve never killed anyone. Maybe I should have killed 400 or 500 people. Then I would have felt better. Then I should have felt like I really offered society something.”

“You know, if I wanted to kill somebody I’d take this book and beat you to death with it and wouldn’t feel a thing. It’d be just like walking to the drug store.”

“Believe me, if I started murdering people there’d be none of you left.”

Finally, upon parting, Manson turned to Schulman and said, “You know you’re about 10 pounds overweight, don’t you? I’m just telling you. That’s all. I’m just sayin’.”

- snip -

This interview still haunts me - so chilling, and so chillingly trump like.

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
52. The difference being is Manson
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:40 PM
Apr 2023

Was in prison at the time (where empty green should be among others) His name is synonymous with pure evil.

iscooterliberally

(2,863 posts)
6. This is how I feel about TFG
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:32 AM
Apr 2023

He's the Manson of politics. I remember years ago when they interviewed Manson. I think it was in 1989. I was playing in bands and some of the musicians I knew were walking around quoting some the stupid crap that Manson said. I never understood the appeal. The guy just said whatever stupid crap popped into his head and some idiot would go around repeating it like it was cool. TFG and MTG have the same appeal, which is NONE. They all need to be sent packing. I hope MTG and TFG both go to prison for what they have done.

Shermann

(7,440 posts)
70. Cult leaders tend to be prolific at tossing word salads
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 04:29 PM
Apr 2023

...and proudly serving them up like gourmet restaurant chefs.

It's all in the delivery.

ImNotGod

(134 posts)
7. I remember the Diane Sawyer/ Manson interview back in '94, Manson would be perfect for republican
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:33 AM
Apr 2023

rep today they would welcome him with open arms, maybe put him on the crime committee.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
14. Many years ago, I read Lesley Stahl's book (forgot its name) written after Reagan was diagnosed
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:46 AM
Apr 2023

with Alzheimer’s. She admitted that she saw Reagan often and knew before his second election campaign that he was not mentally all there, but she stayed silent. Essentially she knew that Nancy and top advisors would be running the government if he was re-elected, but she stayed silent. I lost a lot of respect for her after that, though it’s fair to say that the whole White House press pool also stayed silent even though most of them would have observed Reagan’s decline but decided that voters should not know that they were voting for a man who was developing serious cognitive issues to lead the free world.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
15. Yup, yup, yup
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:53 AM
Apr 2023

The current crop of corporate media reporters are all about helping the oligarchy keep their power and stolen loot.

So they hide their dirty little secrets for them.... without even being asked. And they publicize the propaganda in the name of fair and equitable journalism. Cons and manipulation.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
50. It was insane. I saw Reagan at a quick public appearance during his second term.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:36 PM
Apr 2023

What I saw was a confused old man who didn't know where the hell he was or what he was doing there.

They pushed Reagan behind the podium and it was lights, camera, action! A bit of the old acting skills flickered to life and he managed to say a few lines. Then he was gone.

Astonished I went home and turned on the television news. Had anyone seen what I had seen? Nope. All they showed was the clip, and ha, ha, everything is wonderful and wasn't it great the President was visiting!

The newspaper reporting was no different.



I began to doubt myself, thinking yeah, it must be exhausting for an old guy to travel around like that on Air Force One and limos.

As it turned out, what I witnessed was reality.

Not that it mattered. Even before Reagan began to lose his marbles he'd sold his soul to the devil and enthusiastically embraced his greatest acting role as a fascist meat puppet.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. I think it was very valuable to expose Greene's lunacy to the American public on television's
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:54 AM
Apr 2023

most venerated news magazine.

That how one slows the rise of populist extremism in my estimation.

I'm grateful to Lesley Stahl and 60 Minutes for shining a light on Greene's extremism and her brazen dishonesty.



pwb

(11,291 posts)
56. Reviewing the post replies
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 02:03 PM
Apr 2023

it appears you are quit alone on this. Not necessarily wrong but Earl's the boss eh?

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
61. Let's examine some of the things Lesley Stahl had to say in the interview
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 02:49 PM
Apr 2023

and a few word that MTG expressed as well. Shall we?

Here are some from Stahl:

Known for her sharp tongue and radical views…has a history of believing in conspiracy theories…Words that have been said about you: crazy, Q clown, looney tune, unhinged, moron, pretty ugly stuff…

People say you are Trump in high heel,..many consider MTG’s behavior outlandish, even thuggish…

That’s glib, that’s glib, what does that mean?…

Greene complains about the news media for harping on things she did in the past, like—as in this video [rolls tape] chasing after the survivor of the Parkland FL school shooting [then showing the evidence of Greene berating a shooting survivor]…

And things she’s says that are over-the top, like “the Democrats are the part of pedophiles"…They are NOT pedophiles! What would you day that?!…Wow! [roll-eyes]...

Shortly after she arrived in Washington the Democratic-led House outside her from her committees because of her past endorsement of violence against some Democrats and her embrace of Q-Anon [rolls tape as evidence]…

Did you ever apologize to Nancy Pelosi for the bullet to her head? [displays a “liked” Facebook post calling for Pelosi to be shot]…Did you apologize for your position on Parkland Florida [shows support for Facebook calling the shootings a “false flag” attack as Greene denies it]…

Here are some of the things you’ve said: That America should have a Christian government, that abortion should be banned nationally, that you want to defend the FBI? You want immigration to stop, you want 4 years, you’ve said those things, correct? MTG agrees]…The Constitution, the very first amendment, prohibits having a religion in government…

The latest nation poll shows her approval rating at just 29%.

And here are some words for Marjorie Taylor Greene's own mouth:

Margorie is crazy. Margorie is extreme. Margorie is a right-wing extremist…

They call me racist. They call me anti Semitic…

What made me run for Congress when [sic] I saw the Republicans in Congress, the House and the Senate, completely fail to deliver the agenda that we had all voted for…They failed us.. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, yea, those types, Mitt Romney, I’m not even sure why he calls himself a Republican.

***

Not exactly an endorsement of Republican fascism. LOL

pwb

(11,291 posts)
63. No. You shouldn't have taken so much time to reply.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 03:26 PM
Apr 2023

I won't be convinced either way. Still not watching it. I don't like her.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
77. I look at it this way.. the Admin
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 08:03 PM
Apr 2023

happens to feel about the Stahl interview of mtg like I do & Visa Versa.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
33. Hey at least we know how much she can dead-lift!
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:50 PM
Apr 2023

Nothing about sharing a stage with a Holocaust denying white nationalist. But the weight room stuff was cool!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
53. Blue. Thanks to the efforts of Democrats to protect us from grotesque levels of air pollution.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:48 PM
Apr 2023

In my youth, the air in Los Angeles was often orange-brown and ones windpipe would burn from simply breathing out of doors.

Thank goodness for progressive liberalism.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
22. With special guest interviewer Geraldo Rivera?
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:04 PM
Apr 2023

“Today we dig up Charles Manson to interview him on the current state of the Republican Party!”

And once they get him dug up…

“Mr. Manson, what is your opinion on the current Republican Party?”
“Those guys are crazier than I am!”

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,251 posts)
27. Stahl once referred to MSNBC as a leftwing extreme news source during an interview.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:23 PM
Apr 2023

No link. I was watching an interview she did and that statement just jumped out at me. It was probably about 2 years back.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
30. Contact info for 60 Minutes, if anyone wants to give direct feedback.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:33 PM
Apr 2023
How do I contact 60 Minutes for a story?

Contact Information

ADDRESS: 60 Minutes. 524 West 57th St. New York, NY 10019.

EMAIL: 60min@cbsnews.com.

PHONE: (212) 975-3247.

CBS HEADQUARTERS EXECUTIVES: 1-212-975-4321.
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
34. Great, I should thank CBS for carrying on the fine tradition of Edward R Murrow and CBS News.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:54 PM
Apr 2023

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. That was tue when CBS took down Joe MCCarthy, and it is true today.

Kudos to CBS News.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
36. You forgot
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:01 PM
Apr 2023

the sarcasm emoji, right?

Seriously, there's enough good analysis here on other DU threads for anyone on this thread to launch a major criticism of why CBS and TV news should NEVER be normalizing the Freedom Caucus and the rest of Koch-bought GOP leaders.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
37. No sarcasm on my part.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:08 PM
Apr 2023

MAGA extremism was not "normalized" in my estimation, rather it was exposed.

That's the precisely the same way that Joe McCarthy was taken down.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
40. Absolutely. 100%.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:20 PM
Apr 2023

I think Lesley Stahl and 60 Minutes did the nation a great service.

We would benefit from greater exposure of the populist extremist loons who are a threat to liberal democracy in this nation.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
41. What was exposed
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:25 PM
Apr 2023

that isn't already extremely widely known about her?

The media already gives an enormous amont of exposure to Greene, and other popular extremist loons. Giving her a respected national platform so spread those extremist views helps normalize them.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
49. Known by whom?
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:33 PM
Apr 2023

Left-of-center political junkies or the types of everyday Americans who watch 60 Minutes and are likely unaware of the myriad examples of nuttery that Stahl exposed? And that was only scratching the surface. I wish Stahl had the full hour, which still wouldn't be enough time.

I don't think any aspect of the 60 Minutes profile "normalized" Greene. She came off very badly.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
82. Badly to whom?
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 10:09 PM
Apr 2023

Anyone inclined to think badly of her already does. There absolutely no reason to give her a platform on a well-respected mainstream news show.

Remember all those people who wanted Trump to be candidate in 2016 because no one would actually vote for him? You seriously underestimate the stupidity of people inclined to like the likes of Trump or Greene. Treating her a person deserving of national attention definitely normalized her, now matter how she came off in your perception.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
83. Those who are inclined to think badly of Greene almost certainly do already,
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 10:26 PM
Apr 2023

even if they have a limited understanding how deep and how wide Greene's extremist behavior and crazy actions have been. Stahl's report may have added to these people knowledge of specifics, but few if any people who disliked her before seeing the program are likely to change any minds. That's absolutely true.

But there are many people in America who don't know what Greene is all about, and exposing her nuttery to a mass audience is vital. That you reference the "stupidity of people" should--I would think--lead you to embrace informing these people, so they are not sucked in to supporting this contemptible and dishonest bigot in the way some went for Trump. We've unfortunately been down that road.

Greene was not "platformed," instead her nuttery was exposed to scrutiny and she came off looking very bad.

What Greene "deserves" is close scrutiny. She is already gaining political power. She is not remotely "normal," and the 60 Minutes profile did not "normalize" her. It did the exact opposite.

60 Minutes is a well-respected mainstream news show because they put forward programs such as these. Americans trust them as a source and Lesley Stahl validated that trust.

This is an important work of journalism.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
84. It was so bad she's already using it in ads she's running for herself.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 10:30 PM
Apr 2023

You can expose someone and scrutinize them closely without giving them a national platform. Rather than dissuading anyone from supporting her, this fiasco simply amplified her message.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
85. Trump is fundraising off his indictment.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 10:41 PM
Apr 2023

It's the same deal.

Should we fail to prosecute Trump for his crimes because, being the grifter that he is, he will attempt to enrich himself in the process? I think the obvious answer is no.

So not surprise that Greene pulls the same stunts. Lesley Stahl referred to Greene as "Trump in a dress," and that's pretty spot-on.

We can not be deterred from going after populist extremists who embrace violence because those people will try to fundraise off being exposed.

I disagree entirely that people won't be dissuaded from supporting her. The piece was very damning. The 60 Minutes audience is probably made up of the most persuadable cohort of people in this country. And these people tune into the show as a source they've trusted for a long time.

I think Stahl did an excellent job of laying out the case--as good as anyone could do in 13 minutes (which is really insufficient time) and we ought to be thankful for her service to liberal democracy.

durablend

(7,465 posts)
31. I'm waiting for her exclusive with TFG
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:33 PM
Apr 2023

"Tell us about all the PAIN and SORROW and ANGUISH you've been going through"

SunImp

(2,228 posts)
43. Uh oh, some special princesses out there are probably extremely disappointed in you now for having a
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:27 PM
Apr 2023

different opinion on this. I doubt that they are brave enough to give you one of their obnoxious scoldings though

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
69. Agree 100% - Mike Wallace turned over in his grave yesterday
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 04:20 PM
Apr 2023

It was pathetic and I'm sorry to say that I DVR their show every Sunday. I think this is the end for me.

Scrivener7

(51,014 posts)
60. I would never give empty green a platform bigger than the one she already has.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 02:45 PM
Apr 2023

To each their own.

I thought the OP was great.

Dorn

(523 posts)
66. All broadcast news ended when the Fairness Doctrine ended
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 03:44 PM
Apr 2023

'News' now is click bait as is most of the internet -- get eyes, get clicks, and get ad revenue.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
79. 60 mins doesn't usually do such a huge disservice to our country
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 08:32 PM
Apr 2023

I guess leslie has drunk the "set a new precedent" kool-aid. There is a great job waiting for her at Fux Nooze.

usonian

(9,885 posts)
81. KEEP 'EM COMING!
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 09:51 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Mon Apr 3, 2023, 11:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Ask if you need help creating more.

But some antics of our media are hard to top.


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FOR YOU GRAPHIC ARTISTS OUT THERE:

Edit Away.

Aussie105

(5,436 posts)
87. If you have never seen MTG in action before,
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 04:03 AM
Apr 2023

then the interview may be an eye opener, like 'Wow, this lady is a bit of a nut case!'

That is the good part of it.

If you have seen her brand of extremism before, like we all here have, you might resent the free exposure she got, you might even think she was normalised to a certain extent.

Good or bad, depends on your perspective.

I still think 60 minutes should have recorded it but not aired it.

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