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JUST SO YOU KNOW........MASKS CAN STILL HELP
228 AVERAGE DAILY U.S. COVID DEATHS
Notes: Data as of March 31, 10:10 a.m. ET
Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Beachnutt
(8,910 posts)I asked the pharmacy the other day if I should get another shot since it's been 6 months since my last booster and she said no not until the newer one is available.
So am I still vaxxed up ?
Goonch
(5,057 posts)
BSdetect
(9,048 posts)Fully vaxxed of course. All three have to travel for work.
Relatively "mild" symptoms but not pleasant at all. One lost sense of taste and smell.
Gradually recovering smell and taste after 2 weeks.
JonAndKatePlusABird
(368 posts)And for context, fully up-to-date vax-wise (received the bivalvent booster the day it was available in September).
Wasnt the worst thing in the world, though it was a _wicked_ sore throat. And while the original infection was gone in a week, still had lingering crumminess for a good three weeks following.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)and getting hit with it. Be safe! get vaxxed/boosted, mask up in crowds, avoid restaurants, bars, concerts etc.
niyad
(132,440 posts)I still mask in public.
Abigail_Adams
(333 posts)Outdoors, it depends on the level of crowdedness. Most people I know who have flown on planes have caught Covid. It's beyond me why airlines don't require masks anymore. Or if they do require masks, enforcement is lax. I ain't flying in the foreseeable future.
niyad
(132,440 posts)pleased to see that many are still masking in stores and the library on my side of town. Have no idea what the reichwing fundie side does.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Pinback
(13,600 posts)These old geezers and geezettes are about dead anyway, so why should I care?
To clarify, Im not ascribing that mindset to you, but its definitely a thing in the U.S.A., where simply being old makes one expendable in the minds of many.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)To get vaccinations 2nd. 3rd shots and boosters into the arms of the over 65s. That has always been where the major problem is.
IronLionZion
(51,269 posts)very mild for me since I was vaxxed to the max. It was like a cold with coughing and some headache and brain fog. Theraflu and Tylenol PM helped a lot. I felt crummy for about 2-3 days and then was fine.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)That's the key to surviving covid. At this point, masks won't offer that much protection because they require that you wear the correct one, wear it at all times in public, and make sure that everyone in your household follows these practices as well. It's impossible for humans to do this over an indefinite period of time.
Hence, at this point, it's safer to assume that you will contract covid or at the very least be exposed to it. So, get vaccinated and get boosted, and get Palaxovid if you contract it.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)That I put up a couple of weeks ago:
Infections will remain; the virus will mutate, and our antibodies will wane. Every infection will boost immunity, new epitopes will become part of our immune memory: we will immunologically mature. Infection is unlikely every year, but every 3-4 years is quite possible, with asymptomatic or mild disease the most likely outcomes.
We have gained long-term, immunological memory to the virus, the same as we do against other pathogens. This was achieved with vaccination and infection. Continued infection may still strengthen this further. For other respiratory infections, we would have been infected several times before we reach adulthood. Adults now exposed to SARS-CoV-2 have not had the opportunity to build up immunity from an early age, so damage from a new pathogen was expected and vaccination has been an incredible help to avoid more. With vaccination we are like adolescents, with additional infections we will be immunologically speaking, adults again. This takes some time, nothing much more can be done about it.
https://www.thematic-ai.eu/prof-marc-veldhoen/sars-cov-2-new-and-familiar
To answer your question: Most people dying of covid in the US are vaccinated, but this is because most elderly people are vaccinated. But you are still 4 more times likely to die of covid if you are unvaccinated.
Botany
(77,324 posts)If people had gotten vaccinated this "thing" would be behind us.
moreland01
(870 posts)I think the next paragraph in that report is equally important:
There is a gap in our knowledge, for other pathogens as well, how SARS-CoV-2 can cause debilitating damage in some people with long-term consequences. We know too little about how this works, how to prevent, how to treat and heal. A new frontier of research that hopefully will bring understanding and solutions.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)I am interested. Thank you. I'm not on the bird site anymore.
Noticed the Update on March 20: This article has been updated to clarify that research has identified biological changes that can occur in association with symptoms present following a COVID infection.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)And had an easy path to the blood stream allowing the virus to infect other parts of the body.
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Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Also, are there other contributing factors e.g. obesity, smoking, etc.?
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Vaccines and/or infection, has to mean fewer deaths. I guess it will end up being similar.
Commorbidities make a difference. In Jan 2022 covid was the primary cause of death as reported on death certificates. By April, the end of omicron, the number was 60% and has stayed that way through September which was the last date I have seen cdc info on the subject. For the other 40% covid was thought to have contributed to but not been the primary cause of death.
I do kind of wish they would tell us that when compiling the statistics.
xocetaceans
(4,442 posts)You make very good points. One thing that is frequently said is to have a plan for when one encounters the virus. Be vaccinated fully. Be boosted. Have the discussion with your healthcare provider before you encounter it so that you are on the same page. Getting treatment quickly makes a difference as there are phases to the disease. So, be prepared.
I support your post.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)rather easy for me as i do not like people.
never understood my social anxiety as a survival skill.
who knew
my goal would be that if i do get it, my max vax supply would keep it mild
no symptoms would be nice being as reclusive as i am, being infectious and spreading to others is not a huge risk
I don't think i have had it yet.
for me its lifestyle changes more than precautions
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)patphil
(9,068 posts)Still a major cause of death in the United States.
Delphinus
(12,522 posts)I saw about deaths in the US were: heart disease, all kinds of cancer, and then Covid.
barbtries
(31,308 posts)Mask everywhere. no plans to stop, ever
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Especially If it is someone who did everything right. But we have that many in gun deaths everyday, so I am not sure the people of America will blink an eye over it.
It may take a more visible killer, like mushroom heads for people to care.
8+ billion is a breading Petri dish ready to explode.
So why not give tax credits to breed 10 kids (white) per family.
Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)It's about half that with suicides and homicides combined.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)106 die each day from guns. Includes murders, suicide and accidents. You are correct. No where near. Thank god.
EnergizedLib
(3,040 posts)The pandemic isnt over even though people are pretending it to be. Ive gotten COVID just one time in three years - not shaking hands with people and masking indoors unless Im by myself somewhere/far away from people or Im at my place.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)To be the only place that distinguishes between hospital admissions because of covid and those admitted for other reasons and test positive in the hospital. Only 1/3 of covid hospital admissions are because of covid.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-response-reporting
On March 28 there were 315 covid patients but only 84 were admitted because of covid.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)how many people actually died "from" Covid and how many "with" Covid. If it's at the same 2/3 ratio of Covid positivity being an incidental finding as in MA (closer to 3/4, actually), then the Covid death rate would no longer be such a dramatic statistic -> 60 Covid deaths per day. Sad, but maybe not headline material. Hopefully this mortality/morbidity question can be addressed more directly and clearly at the national level.
Orrex
(67,111 posts)Lets not fall into the Trump kkkults tactic of downplaying every COVID death when the deceased had pre-existing conditions. That tactic was all the rage during the height of the pandemic, intended to diminish the actual daily death rates.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Orrex
(67,111 posts)Fully faxed/boosted and endlessly reminded how little anyone cares about anyone else if it involves the slightest effort or inconvenience.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)mask. I had all available shots and no one else had a mask. Well, several people at the wedding including the mother of the bride and the bride caught Covid. I got it too. I felt OK and thought I was over it...I was 10 days after testing positive. When I developed terrible pain in my left side. My daughter insisted I go to the hospital...I was in AFIB and had blood clots in my kidney and my lungs. I had covid pneumonia.
What wasn't caught was my bicuspid valve which is hereditary and I had my entire life...in the late 50s or early 60s, the valve begins to wear out. They got me out of AFIB and I was sent home on meds. My heart at that time was working OK... but Covid attacks weakness and by January, I was in real trouble...I was taking a high dose of Metropolol which tanked my already low blood pressure and Eliquis. I was in cardiac failure as my heart could no longer pump blood to my entire body. I was having trouble breathing too...I was admitted and spent 46 days in the hospital. Eventually, I was stabilized and my Aortic valve was replaced. My prognosis is good. I wear a mask everywhere. If you get it, take the meds that are available. I wish I had done so.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)I wonder when the next booster will be available.