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PCIntern

(25,576 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:15 PM Apr 2023

I have a theory which is mine, belongs to me, and is mine too:

My theory is that Trump has told key individuals such as Lindsay Graham, many other elected officials, the Attorney General, various House members, individuals in the intelligence community, and certain others that he knows enough to bring down the US Government as it stands as well as individuals personally and that is the reason for the “loyalty”.

The info he obtained in his position as President plus what Putin gave him is sufficient to wreak havoc. This information would be positioned to be released if anything untoward happened to him and/or his family.

If you honestly think he wouldn’t do this, you have not been paying attention sufficiently.

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I have a theory which is mine, belongs to me, and is mine too: (Original Post) PCIntern Apr 2023 OP
Would Graham flip ? Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #1
Quite possible. Call his bluff. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #2
I just don't think anyone is stupid enough to give him louis-t Apr 2023 #3
How about PCIntern Apr 2023 #6
Well, repugs have disclosed classified info before. louis-t Apr 2023 #24
I think whatever info/evidence Trump has would primarily damage the Republican Party. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2023 #4
LOL - Shirley you are a fan of the Flying Circus ? Pluvious Apr 2023 #5
He is a halibut PCIntern Apr 2023 #8
ROTFL - An elk ! Pluvious Apr 2023 #9
That's ANNE... PCIntern Apr 2023 #13
I'm not here for AN argument ! Pluvious Apr 2023 #18
Yes you are! PCIntern Apr 2023 #21
I thought that was Eric the 'alf a bee. louis-t Apr 2023 #22
And dinosaurs edhopper Apr 2023 #7
"This is my theory." louis-t Apr 2023 #23
Perhaps. He is a known liar after all. cachukis Apr 2023 #10
Oh, I think he would do this. Most certainly. Nt Baked Potato Apr 2023 #11
Not saying you're right, but I won't say you're wrong Maeve Apr 2023 #12
I like the simple reason. They can't win without him. Hamlette Apr 2023 #14
I have always thought MOMFUDSKI Apr 2023 #15
I believe Lindsey et al would be glad... ret5hd Apr 2023 #16
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #17
This would kind of make the argument for more transparency ... no? Caliman73 Apr 2023 #19
TFG has proven time and again that he's a clueless fuck Kaleva Apr 2023 #20

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
3. I just don't think anyone is stupid enough to give him
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:32 PM
Apr 2023

the kind of information that would "bring the country down". And what kind of information would that be? Space Aliens? There is no Easter Bunny? I've often wondered about the nutcases that talk about the Illuminati, chemtrails, and the Rothchilds. If those entities control the world, so what?

PCIntern

(25,576 posts)
6. How about
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:39 PM
Apr 2023

Who the spies are and perhaps the safe houses, or nuclear submarine protocols…or anything which is harmful. I’m certain there are a thousand things which we have no idea about that are critical to the stability of the US.

And if you think we were so very competent, recall the line of dialogue from one of the Die Hard movies, which was something like Don’t ever forget that It took five days to get water to the Superdome after Katrina.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
24. Well, repugs have disclosed classified info before.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 07:44 PM
Apr 2023

Outed CIA agents for political purposes, etc. The world didn't end.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,570 posts)
4. I think whatever info/evidence Trump has would primarily damage the Republican Party.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:34 PM
Apr 2023

Wikileaks got the stolen Democratic Party's emails from Russia. But Trump probably got the stolen Republican emails. Remember when that Republican delegation went to Russia on July 4th, 2017? I think that was the tell.

Pluvious

(4,315 posts)
5. LOL - Shirley you are a fan of the Flying Circus ?
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:38 PM
Apr 2023

And if so, you named your fish Eric

The theory is not impossible

My thoughts are The Groper has delish dirt on Lindsey,
and if The Groper goes down, he’s going with him

Pluvious

(4,315 posts)
18. I'm not here for AN argument !
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:30 PM
Apr 2023

So kindly just show me how to get properly hit on the head already !!

Thank you !

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
22. I thought that was Eric the 'alf a bee.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 07:40 PM
Apr 2023

"Picked 'im meself out of thousands. 'e had an accident."

cachukis

(2,262 posts)
10. Perhaps. He is a known liar after all.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:00 PM
Apr 2023

Would anything he spouted be believable to the normal world?
I suspect he is a blackmailer. But most sane people he has attacked have survived his bluster.
Should he have access to intelligence that matters?
No doubt, but I'd bet the intelligence community has shifted away from his knowledge over the last two years.
He has probably compromised us already.
I'd read that the intelligence community only provided him with boiler plate stuff and I'm confident he was excited to be in the know.
If he commits treachery, I would hope he would be pulled away from a microphone, regardless of MAGAT world.
I do fear his treachery, however. He didn't look too thrilled yesterday.

Maeve

(42,287 posts)
12. Not saying you're right, but I won't say you're wrong
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:03 PM
Apr 2023

He's a vicious little worm who would turn on something-smaller-than-a-dime, and it's not like he didn't have time to dig the dirt in the White House.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
14. I like the simple reason. They can't win without him.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:11 PM
Apr 2023

Trump brought millions of people to the GOP who were non-voters. Without this new mass of people, the GOP was surely on the way out.

Trump has threatened many times to run as a 3rd party candidate. The GOP is dead if that happens.

Lindsay and the lot need to kiss his ass to keep him from doing that.

I can't think of any information that could sink any of them. And how does that bring down the government?

No. It's blackmail of another sort.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,627 posts)
15. I have always thought
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:14 PM
Apr 2023

the orange clown has dirt on all of them and will use it if he has to. That is where the fear comes from.

ret5hd

(20,516 posts)
16. I believe Lindsey et al would be glad...
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:20 PM
Apr 2023

to have the government disintegrate.

They have been attempting to do that for decades. Koch etc would rejoice. No more EPA, FDA, IRS, EEOC, etc. A few years of chaos, then they are in charge. The only responsible choice, ya’ know…serious men with responsibility and honor.

H2O Man

(73,594 posts)
17. Recommended.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:26 PM
Apr 2023

Some of the highly classified documents he stole were intelligence from two of our allies. This is one of the reasons that Jack Smith was appointed to handle the investigations.

This, of course, is part of the difficulties that the ex-president is threatening those you note with.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
19. This would kind of make the argument for more transparency ... no?
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:43 PM
Apr 2023

I know there are some secrets that need to be kept (I.E. Troop movements and positions, new superweapons, etc...) but the reality is that if a government has too many secrets it chooses to keep from its citizens, then that government will tend to lose legitimacy.

I would imagine that the secrets guarded most closely are about the levels of corruption within the "representatives" in government and just how much they are actually benefiting from the positions of trust to which they were elected. I already have a healthy mistrust of government. I would prefer to know about those things they think would "scare" me.

That way, an idiot like Trump wouldn't really have anything to hold over anyone's head.

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