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applegrove

(132,571 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:18 PM Apr 2023

Do Critics of Trump's Indictment Have a Point? Good advice from Nick Kristof

OPINION
NICHOLAS KRISTOF

Do Critics of Trump’s Indictment Have a Point?
April 5, 2023, 6:24 p.m. ET
4 MIN READ

By Nicholas Kristof, Opinion Columnist

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opinion/trump-charges-presumed-innocent.html

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Republican leaders and Fox News personalities have erupted at the arrest of Donald Trump, so let’s consider some of their concerns.

“I believe the New York prosecutor has stretched to reach felony criminal charges in order to fit a political agenda.” — Senator Mitt Romney

Is this indictment a legal stretch? It may be. Even some sharp critics of Trump find the case thin. We liberals should recognize our biases and tread carefully.

Paying hush money to a porn star is not inherently a crime. To get a felony conviction, District Attorney Alvin Bragg must show that business records were falsified to advance a second crime that for now is not charged. It may be a violation of state or federal election law or perhaps of state tax laws (one of the few surprises this week).

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Do Critics of Trump's Indictment Have a Point? Good advice from Nick Kristof (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2023 OP
I can see those with MAGA relatives getting through to them by being applegrove Apr 2023 #1
Personally I was hoping the Georgia indictments would have come out first FakeNoose Apr 2023 #2
Fareed Zakaria said "They got the right man, but for wrong charges." Silent Type Apr 2023 #3
Fuck that. All the right-wingers and namby-pamby equivocators can ask themselves... W_HAMILTON Apr 2023 #4
+++++ emulatorloo Apr 2023 #5
+1 orangecrush Apr 2023 #8
No. tavernier Apr 2023 #6
I believe the AG has another case that shows a distinct pattern of the Trump family Johonny Apr 2023 #7
It's like nailing Al Capone for tax evasion. Eugene Apr 2023 #9

applegrove

(132,571 posts)
1. I can see those with MAGA relatives getting through to them by being
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:20 PM
Apr 2023

serious instead of argumentative.

FakeNoose

(41,936 posts)
2. Personally I was hoping the Georgia indictments would have come out first
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:22 PM
Apr 2023

Both of them are solid cases with mountains of evidence, but the Georgia indictments will be for things he did while in office. For that reason they have more weight.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. Fareed Zakaria said "They got the right man, but for wrong charges."
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:26 PM
Apr 2023

He said that after listing many of trump’s crimes.

If one of the other investigations yields an indictment, this one will likely fade away. Heck, the next court appearance is not until December.

W_HAMILTON

(10,372 posts)
4. Fuck that. All the right-wingers and namby-pamby equivocators can ask themselves...
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:27 PM
Apr 2023

...what the fuck would they be saying if it had been, say, Clinton that had an extramarital affair and paid for the person to shut up during a campaign so they could get elected and then charged the expense to The Clinton Foundation?

Right-wingers heads would fucking explode and all these hand-wringing types in the so-called middle would have no problems declaring their guilt.

And how the fuck is it a surprise to any thinking person that this would have been a violation of state tax laws? It's a personal payment that was recorded on the books of a business so that it could be deducted it from income to lower their tax liability. Of course it's a fucking violation of state tax law (and federal tax law while we're at it -- looking at you Garland and the IRS).

Johonny

(26,340 posts)
7. I believe the AG has another case that shows a distinct pattern of the Trump family
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:35 PM
Apr 2023

falsifying business records. AGs rarely bring cases to trial they don't think they can win.

Eugene

(67,170 posts)
9. It's like nailing Al Capone for tax evasion.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:43 PM
Apr 2023

He did the fraud, but the charges are beatable. It is being compared to John Edwards' alleged campaign finance violations.

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