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@SenatorDurbin 's statement on reports of undisclosed gifts accepted by Justice Clarence Thomas. (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 OP
We all know that as long as Republicans angrychair Apr 2023 #1
But this is the Senate, which Dems control. Maybe there are actions they spooky3 Apr 2023 #2
The Senate has no control over the Supreme Court. former9thward Apr 2023 #18
No one claimed that. You may want to ask Dick Durbin what spooky3 Apr 2023 #19
The Senate Judiciary Committee doesn't have "control" over SCOTUS, but they have a lot of influence. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #25
Senate Judiciary Chair Dick Durbin will investigate Clarence Thomas LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #3
And, his GD wife, too. Cha Apr 2023 #5
Slappy also forgot to include his traitor wife's income on his disclosure forms for 5 fking years. OMGWTF Apr 2023 #21
Oh that's right.. I forgot about Cha Apr 2023 #23
There is nothing in that statement about an investigation. former9thward Apr 2023 #17
If this isn't the lead up to launching one, I'll est the keyboard I'm typing on. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #24
Enough with the talk. Form a committee and investigate. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #4
yes, i am sick and tired of watching fascists in the country go unchecked, we need a strong Federal ImNotGod Apr 2023 #7
agree republianmushroom Apr 2023 #6
Citizens United has had awful impacts on America ..... I don't know if that covers paying off .... Botany Apr 2023 #8
. dalton99a Apr 2023 #9
I'll get this news elsewhere; not from a post that only includes a link to musk's platform. erronis Apr 2023 #10
It's on the Senate Judiciary Committe's website. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #14
Thanks, ShazzieB. My point is please post the definitive links, as much as possible, erronis Apr 2023 #15
I agree. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #22
Thanks much. I didn't even see that it is the Committee that is doing the click-bait! erronis Apr 2023 #27
Tiktok has its own special set of issues. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #29
Who else has he accepted gifts from? Red Mountain Apr 2023 #11
So get it done and don't be wimping out letting republicans water it all down. Bev54 Apr 2023 #12
I see no reason to assume Durbin is going to do that. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #20
Did he declare it as income and pay taxes? LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #13
Probably not Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #16
My experience.... Red Mountain Apr 2023 #26
I'm not saying you are wrong Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #28
Thanks for reading Red Mountain Apr 2023 #30
ProPublica has done the country a huge solid. I donated to them today on the page reporting this JudyM Apr 2023 #31
There's a lot of noise on this here thread DC77 Apr 2023 #32
Lawmakers Call for Investigation and Ethics Reforms in Response to ProPublica Report on C Thomas LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #33

spooky3

(38,553 posts)
2. But this is the Senate, which Dems control. Maybe there are actions they
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 01:59 PM
Apr 2023

Can take given their special role in the judiciary.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
18. The Senate has no control over the Supreme Court.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:35 PM
Apr 2023

The confirm or reject Justice nominees. But they have no control over the court.

ShazzieB

(22,511 posts)
25. The Senate Judiciary Committee doesn't have "control" over SCOTUS, but they have a lot of influence.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:55 PM
Apr 2023

Sounds to me like the Committee is getting ready to launch an investigation which is going to be extremely embarrassing for Thomas and his wife, at the very least. They can't "fire" him, but they can sure as hell him under the microscope and lay his corruption out for all to see.

I am SO here for this!

Cha

(318,644 posts)
5. And, his GD wife, too.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 02:40 PM
Apr 2023

How did they find out about these Gifts that weren't Disclosed? TY.

I bet ginni is having a conniption.

OMGWTF

(5,093 posts)
21. Slappy also forgot to include his traitor wife's income on his disclosure forms for 5 fking years.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:40 PM
Apr 2023

It's well over $600K but as we all know, IOKIYAR.

Cha

(318,644 posts)
23. Oh that's right.. I forgot about
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:43 PM
Apr 2023

that sneaky criminal asshole move by the scotus Asshole.

ShazzieB

(22,511 posts)
24. If this isn't the lead up to launching one, I'll est the keyboard I'm typing on.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:48 PM
Apr 2023

This message is just the opening salvo. Watch and see!

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
7. yes, i am sick and tired of watching fascists in the country go unchecked, we need a strong Federal
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 03:08 PM
Apr 2023

government, not a paper tiger.

Botany

(77,139 posts)
8. Citizens United has had awful impacts on America ..... I don't know if that covers paying off ....
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 03:11 PM
Apr 2023

.... Clarence Thomas but payments to Krysten Sinema are covered by C.U..

erronis

(23,638 posts)
10. I'll get this news elsewhere; not from a post that only includes a link to musk's platform.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 03:13 PM
Apr 2023

No offense to you, OP. This seems to be a norm for many posters. Links and no comments or context. Almost like they are posted as click-bait to twitter.

I know I'm still in a minority who don't mind their privacy shafted constantly.

erronis

(23,638 posts)
15. Thanks, ShazzieB. My point is please post the definitive links, as much as possible,
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:24 PM
Apr 2023

not some opinion piece already filtered through 10-20 news rehash sites.

It seems that many posters have gotten really sloppy - at best.

At worst, all they're doing is trying to get clicks on some site that they have an interest in.

erronis

(23,638 posts)
27. Thanks much. I didn't even see that it is the Committee that is doing the click-bait!
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 05:32 PM
Apr 2023

What I've heard from past pols is that "everyone uses twitter, so we need to also."

And yet they're apparently able to say that tiktok is an evil platform.

Politics and intelligence don't go together much.

Politics and money do.

ShazzieB

(22,511 posts)
29. Tiktok has its own special set of issues.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 05:55 PM
Apr 2023

I haven't heard anyone call Tiktok "evil," but there are security concerns about that particular platform that many are not comfortable with.

https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/the-fbi-has-a-warning-for-tiktok-users-why-it-says-you-should-be-extremely-concerned.html

Twitter has issues for sure, especially since Eloon took over, but it has a ompletely different set of issues from Tiktok.

Red Mountain

(2,324 posts)
11. Who else has he accepted gifts from?
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:00 PM
Apr 2023

Or any of the rest of them?

Did he pay taxes on those gifts?

ShazzieB

(22,511 posts)
20. I see no reason to assume Durbin is going to do that.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:38 PM
Apr 2023

This is not just a personal statement. Durbin issued it in his capacity as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and it's posted on the committee's website. I have a feeling this is just the opening salvo in what is going to be an investigation by the Senate Judiciary Committee into Thomas' corruption.

There are 11 Democrats on that committee, as follows:

Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Alex Padilla (D-CA)
Jon Ossoff (D-GA)
Peter Welch (D-VT)

I would be extremely shocked if all of those people would go along with Durbin issuing this statement if they weren't planning to follow it up with some decisive action.

Farmer-Rick

(12,599 posts)
16. Probably not
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:27 PM
Apr 2023

I couldn't find anything that says Gifts have to be declared as income. Winnings, like Oprah's free cars to audience members and lottery money must be declared, which confuses people.

But there are rules against federal employees accepting gifts of large amounts. We pay Clearance and all federal judges with our tax dollars. I would think they are federal employees. Let's stop paying them for awhile and see what happens.

Red Mountain

(2,324 posts)
26. My experience....
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 04:58 PM
Apr 2023

is that current tax rates allow a gift of up to $17000 from another in 2023 without paying taxes.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gift.asp

What Is a Gift?

A gift is property, money, or assets that one person gives to another while receiving nothing or less than fair market value (FMV) in return. Under certain circumstances, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) collects a tax on gifts. Transfers of money or property that are given freely or exchanged for less than market value may be subject to the gift tax if the donor has exceeded the annual or lifetime gift exemption.



Sounds like he accepted a lot of gifts.

Or he gave them something in return.....but I'm sure there is lots of documentation regarding exactly which decisions the gifts paid for and what they cost.

Farmer-Rick

(12,599 posts)
28. I'm not saying you are wrong
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 05:40 PM
Apr 2023

But isn't the gift tax payed by the giver and not the recipient?

I may just have gotten this all backwards because what I know about taxes you can fit on a flea's back.

This I got from your link: The gift tax is a federal tax levied on a taxpayer who gives money or property to someone else.

So Clarance wouldn't have to report it but the billionaire, if he's an American oligarch, has to report it. But maybe I missed a big something.

DC77

(144 posts)
32. There's a lot of noise on this here thread
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:54 AM
Apr 2023

Please stop with the links and bad info. The facts are that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas failed to disclose gifts as required on annual financial disclosure forms set by the Ethics In Government Act of 1978. Per the form’s reference to “Judiciary Policy, Volume 2D, Ch. 3, § 330 Gifts and Reimbursements; § 360 Spouses and Dependent Children,” gifts over $415 must be disclosed. They clearly were not.

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,895 posts)
33. Lawmakers Call for Investigation and Ethics Reforms in Response to ProPublica Report on C Thomas
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 04:36 PM
Apr 2023

There will be hearings on this betrayal. The SCOTUS is not above the law and it may necessary for Congress to force a true code of ethics on the SCOTUS



https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-harlan-crow-durbin-ethics-investigation?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter

Influential Democratic lawmakers have called for immediate investigations and vowed to create stricter ethics rules following a ProPublica report that revealed Justice Clarence Thomas has, for decades, failed to disclose luxury trips he received from a real estate magnate and conservative megadonor.

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee — influential for its role in vetting and confirming Supreme Court nominees — said his panel is calling for an “enforceable code of conduct” for justices. “The ProPublica report is a call to action, and the Senate Judiciary Committee will act,” Durbin said......

On Thursday, a growing chorus of Democratic lawmakers said Thomas’ failure to disclose the luxury vacations is an example of why public trust in the Supreme Court is faltering.

Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen said in a statement that Americans’ confidence in the Supreme Court is “tanking because of this kind of conduct.”

“We need answers,” he said. “And the Court needs a code of ethics.”

Rhode Island Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said in a statement that the Supreme Court has lost its ethical compass, calling for Chief Justice John Roberts to open an investigation. “It’s no wonder that the American people are losing faith in the idea that they can get a fair shake before the nation’s highest court when they see a Supreme Court justice openly flouting basic disclosure rules in order to pal around with billionaires in secret,” he said.

This year, Whitehouse and others introduced a bill that would strengthen the Supreme Court’s disclosure and recusal rules, among other reforms. In his statement, the senator called for a hearing and vote on the bill.

“The Supreme Court urgently needs an enforceable system for holding justices accountable,” he said.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Americans deserve a judiciary that is “accountable to the rule of law, not wealthy Republican donors.” ProPublica’s reporting, she added, “is a stark reminder that judges should be held to the highest ethical standards and free from conflicts of interest.”
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