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Tennessee Republicans exit after vote to expel (Original Post) underpants Apr 2023 OP
This is gone beyond white privilege to white arrogance Walleye Apr 2023 #1
It's who they've always been... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #2
Tennessee republicans have become racist christians, Emile Apr 2023 #3
'Have become'? More like 'always have been'! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Apr 2023 #5
Bigoted xtian fascists! ananda Apr 2023 #10
... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #4
Spot on underpants Apr 2023 #14
I watched... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #15
Tell me something about Animal Farm. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #32
It's certainly thought that Orwell was writing about Communism underpants Apr 2023 #33
Mr. Blair was a Democratic Socialist. He believed in liberties and open society. NutmegYankee Apr 2023 #37
It's very clearly about Communism in particular. ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #40
Well, that's better than a Cliffs note. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #41
They didn't expect to do the perp walk. Hortensis Apr 2023 #6
The nervous shifting eyes PatSeg Apr 2023 #20
:) National TV coverage, cable covering entire procedures, evening news... Hortensis Apr 2023 #35
Apparently they weren't expecting PatSeg Apr 2023 #36
Guessing you're spot on. They've been believing what they Hortensis Apr 2023 #38
They got too comfortable PatSeg Apr 2023 #39
Obama clearly points out that Emile Apr 2023 #7
When do they put their sheets and hoods on? dem4decades Apr 2023 #8
They don't need them anymore. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #16
I see nobody tans over there, very pasty white JuJuChen Apr 2023 #9
"very pasty white" pazzyanne Apr 2023 #23
Yo repukes we see you!!!! The Jungle 1 Apr 2023 #11
I think Donald Trump's comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln is a dog whistle, Meadowoak Apr 2023 #12
That flag tie! niyad Apr 2023 #13
Anybody know what the vote count was for all 3? KS Toronado Apr 2023 #17
Old, white, fat lardasses. Balding men, bottle-blonde women Tarc Apr 2023 #18
On behalf of old, white, Liberal lard asses; I take offense. Magoo48 Apr 2023 #29
Fucking KKKowards SuperCoder Apr 2023 #19
Repubs will be bragging to each other: 'We sure showed those uppity ______ who is in charge!' keithbvadu2 Apr 2023 #21
Too much gilligan Apr 2023 #22
Repugs attend an attempt to overthrow the government louis-t Apr 2023 #24
ugly white Marthe48 Apr 2023 #25
How many of these _____ _____ are grooming their children to become dangerous Nazi zealots? OhNo-Really Apr 2023 #26
The question that EVERY "news" person should be asking this morning... Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #27
YES!! peggysue2 Apr 2023 #30
Smirking waddlers StarryNite Apr 2023 #28
None of the women have their natural hair color. kacekwl Apr 2023 #31
Inbreds. live love laugh Apr 2023 #34
Parade of Morons. betsuni Apr 2023 #42

2naSalit

(99,692 posts)
2. It's who they've always been...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 06:24 AM
Apr 2023

They've just decided it's time to take off the robes. So the big losers of the civil war want a redo and will foment it with expediency from this point on. They have shown their cards and it's not the winning hand.

As long as WE can gain control over the situation in the next 24 months, we might have chance of surviving the climate crisis.

underpants

(194,578 posts)
14. Spot on
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 07:54 AM
Apr 2023

I used to make money in college writing reports on Animal Farm. Every year I high school that was my big report.

2naSalit

(99,692 posts)
15. I watched...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:08 AM
Apr 2023

The animated movie when I was about ten. It stayed with me all this time. I keep a copy of the book in my tiny library.

We were warned.

Baitball Blogger

(51,634 posts)
32. Tell me something about Animal Farm.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:59 AM
Apr 2023

Specifically about this: When I read Animal Farm at a young age, I didn't know about the Communist angle. I believe a teacher was pushing the idea that the writer wrote it to show how Communist usurp the power of the people. I didn't see it that way. I always saw it as people who rise to represent you can turn into the very people who are oppressing you. A concept that rings true regarding to my local situation. (Just made that connection, though it was right there under my nose.)

Anyway, I know that over time, my take on it is now the popular one. It's so established, that I am second quessing if the writer really meant for the pigs to represent Communist leaders? Or was that the teacher's take?

underpants

(194,578 posts)
33. It's certainly thought that Orwell was writing about Communism
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:50 AM
Apr 2023

when it was published in 1945. That’s a good interpretation. I was writing these papers in the mid 80’s so during the Reagan era (Cold War in general) so again that was a safe bet.

It’s really about total power corrupting totally. As well as exploiting workers (Boxer). Neither of which are exclusive to Communism or any other name that a government/power operates under.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

NutmegYankee

(16,454 posts)
37. Mr. Blair was a Democratic Socialist. He believed in liberties and open society.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:41 PM
Apr 2023

The authoritarianism of Stalinism frightened him while he was fighting against the fascists in the Spanish Civil War.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
40. It's very clearly about Communism in particular.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:41 PM
Apr 2023

Orwell didn't even try to be subtle about basing several characters on actual historical figures.

Mr Jones = Nicholas II

Old Major = Karl Marx

Napoleon = Stalin

Snowball = Trotsky. Snowball even escapes and is subsequently blamed for every failure of the farm thereafter, just like Stain blamed Trotsky anytime something went wrong in Russia. Even after he'd arranged to murder Trotsky, Stalin still blamed Trotsky via his supposed followers in the country for his own failures.

Squealer = Vyacheslav Molotov and the Pravda propaganda machine he created. The Sheep are part of this machine, representing journalists who repeat what they're told to say, willy-nilly, rather than being a skeptical voice for the people.

Mr Frederick = Hitler

Other characters represent groups/abstractions:

Boxer = poster child for the ideal Bolshevik worker.

Benjamin = pretentious intellectuals who neither support nor oppose Stalin, or are wishy-washy about standing up for what's right.

Mollie = Bourgeoisie, fat, dumb and happy but ultimately not very free under standard capitalism.

Muriel = the semi-educated working class. They are too busy to be serious intellectuals, and thus can be slow to pick up on things going on around them.

Clover = working class women with poor educations. Or none.

Mr Pilkington = Western capitalism, particularly that of Britain and the US.

Moses = Religion and how it was exploited to control the masses. Before you start in on how the USSR was an atheistic state--it wasn't. Not really. In fact, Stalin reopened or even rebuilt most of the churches early Bolsheviks had closed, in the late 30s and early 40s, because he knew religion could create mindless followers. Get the churches to tell their congregations to go to war, and they would. Happily. It worked.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. They didn't expect to do the perp walk.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 07:02 AM
Apr 2023


The more they show themselves for what they've become before the next election, the better. Amazing that dangerously many people still don't know what to think, but the right has been sowing confusion for decades.

60M didn't vote in 2020 when we elected Biden, but that was down from 80M in 2016 when they elected tRump.

PatSeg

(51,958 posts)
20. The nervous shifting eyes
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:19 AM
Apr 2023

of that last guy says it all. That was one uncomfortable dude. I think they know they went too far.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. :) National TV coverage, cable covering entire procedures, evening news...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:36 PM
Apr 2023

The Repub caucus chair got up and left in the middle of a CNN interview.

As you say... Looks bad on so many fronts. That said, it merely reveals them for how terrible they are and have been intractably so for decades -- while even other southern states have been moving away from some of their worst practices.

They have a lock on state government, and it seems unlikely any fallout will change them, except to harden righteously. If every "indie" voter voted Democrat next time, it'd put Dems maybe one point up. Hope I'm missing some big stuff, but at least they'll probably want to hide who they are even more when they travel.



PatSeg

(51,958 posts)
36. Apparently they weren't expecting
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:19 PM
Apr 2023

so much national media. They've probably been getting away with all kinds of crap for a long time, because only a handful of people were paying attention. I'll bet they're just hoping it will all just blow over in a couple of weeks, but I don't think so. Even I was surprised by the extensive coverage.

I remember some footage of the Wisconsin legislature early in the Walker years. This reminds me of that. I was shocked by the rude and callous behavior of republicans in that body. They acted and sounded like Mafia thugs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Guessing you're spot on. They've been believing what they
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 02:20 PM
Apr 2023

tell each other and a nasty surprise broke through. To those on the outside, of course, like the Walker era legislature they are the nasty surprise. Awakening for yet more, please!

PatSeg

(51,958 posts)
39. They got too comfortable
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 03:20 PM
Apr 2023

and thought they were untouchable. A better understanding of history could have warned them.

Emile

(40,311 posts)
7. Obama clearly points out that
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 07:11 AM
Apr 2023

what happened in Tennessee is the latest example of a broader erosion of civility and democratic norms. Silencing those who disagree with us is a sign of weakness, not strength, and it won’t lead to progress.

2naSalit

(99,692 posts)
16. They don't need them anymore.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:09 AM
Apr 2023

This was the removal of their sheets because we can see who they are and they are fine with that.

Meadowoak

(6,605 posts)
12. I think Donald Trump's comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln is a dog whistle,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 07:46 AM
Apr 2023

They want a do over.

KS Toronado

(22,876 posts)
17. Anybody know what the vote count was for all 3?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:10 AM
Apr 2023

Late news said the woman survived by one vote, could have my numbers off but I think they said
there's 23 Democrats and 76 reQublicans total.

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
18. Old, white, fat lardasses. Balding men, bottle-blonde women
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:10 AM
Apr 2023

Probably a "Live, Laugh, Love" decoration in every kitchen.

'MURICA!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
21. Repubs will be bragging to each other: 'We sure showed those uppity ______ who is in charge!'
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:27 AM
Apr 2023

louis-t

(24,566 posts)
24. Repugs attend an attempt to overthrow the government
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:40 AM
Apr 2023

no problem. Democrats show their disdain for children being murdered and get expelled. Sick.

Marthe48

(22,627 posts)
25. ugly white
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:50 AM
Apr 2023

I'm surprised they stand and walk erect, epitome of knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathers

OhNo-Really

(3,996 posts)
26. How many of these _____ _____ are grooming their children to become dangerous Nazi zealots?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:58 AM
Apr 2023
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z34ane/neo-nazi-homeschool-ohio

This article is a Must read. 1000s of children are being brain washed.

The Ohio Nazi curriculum home school is hooking up internationally.

Its young female founder is from Netherland and hooked up with an American at a German Octoberfest to marry. She became a citizen in 2017. Launched a Nazi indoctrination home school in 2021 just ahead of GOP led states to push and some pass school vouchers.

Are we really going to allow Nazi home schooling to receive school funds?

Is there any a state vetting planned to disallow dangerous anti-democratic indoctrination?

Zealots are dangerous. Children are being groomed to become gun-toting, hate-fueled zealots.

Do good people need to infiltrate and expose or will we rely on the government?

We ignore this at our own peril.

The Spanish Civil War is as important to understand as Nazi Germany.

How many blatant nihilistic hints do good people need, to be prompted to take risks, protest, and expose the fascists among us?

peggysue2

(12,369 posts)
30. YES!!
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:30 AM
Apr 2023

The appalling spectacle coming out of the Tennessee legislature yesterday is a sickening example of Republican radicalization and authoritarianism.

UnAmerican and anti-democratic.

There's no wiggle room on this one!

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