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Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:36 AM Apr 2023

Clarence Thomas blaming the advice he got from his peers.

Said that he checked before hand and he was told he did not have to disclose. But now there is new rules and he will begin to follow the new rules.

So, he knows what he did is wrong, but he is blaming whoever counseled him. The big ask that we should get is who did he ask? Was it Roberts? Or is he going to blame Scalia since he's dead and can't be exhumed for a rebuttal?

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Clarence Thomas blaming the advice he got from his peers. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 OP
Bye Bye Uncle Tom Clarence malaise Apr 2023 #1
Uncle Thomas? Earth-shine Apr 2023 #7
Even better malaise Apr 2023 #9
I wish you were right, robbob Apr 2023 #22
We have an old proverb here from way back to the days of enamel buckets malaise Apr 2023 #24
He Better Call Saul yonder Apr 2023 #23
lol bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #2
He will blame Scalia perfessor Apr 2023 #3
This wasn't a minor gift from a close friend. Marius25 Apr 2023 #4
Not To Mention Gifts Me. Apr 2023 #6
OK, so Clarence Thomas, a sitting Associate Justice on the United States no_hypocrisy Apr 2023 #5
I was told... Shermann Apr 2023 #17
30 years of bad advice, or ... sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #8
So a Supreme Court Justice needs a lawyer or someone to guide him in these basics of ethics? Jarqui Apr 2023 #10
Hopefully someone with authority will give him a choice: resign or we go after both you & Ginny. CrispyQ Apr 2023 #11
Won't happen unless Dems do full court press. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #15
Such a liar Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #12
I just wonder who else has been bribing him? I bet he's been on the take Meadowoak Apr 2023 #14
Brought to you by The Party of Personal Responsibility.️ Qutzupalotl Apr 2023 #13
"But... but... everybody's doing it C_U_L8R Apr 2023 #16
He probably asked Ginni.🤔 sheshe2 Apr 2023 #18
So, a SC justice is going to claim that he didn't understand the law? Chainfire Apr 2023 #19
His accountants, law clerks, personal attorneys don't know the law either I guess. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #29
It's possible that Scalia and maybe even Rehnquist told him that advice Polybius Apr 2023 #20
This is the likely excuse. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #21
Is ignorance of the law now an excuse? gratuitous Apr 2023 #25
If he's really that stupid, he doesn't belong on the bench. Firestorm49 Apr 2023 #26
someday he will pass on, maxsolomon Apr 2023 #27
My friends say it is legal for me to rob a bank. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #28
If All Your Friends RobinA Apr 2023 #31
Ordinary Americans know the law and ethics more than Ivy League lawyers. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #32
Isn't This RobinA Apr 2023 #30
For those who make the rules, there are no rules. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #33
I don't think that sleazy guy really was asking about the law as written, Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #34

robbob

(3,538 posts)
22. I wish you were right,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:12 PM
Apr 2023

but these people (reThugs) have no shame. The press will cluck disapprovingly and it will all go into the memory hole. I mean, he just got over being married to an insurrectionist, refusing to recuse from cases involving TFG and Jan. 6th, I don’t see him resigning now. Plus, his resigning would open the door for a Biden nomination, and the people who pays his bills don’t want THAT. So they’ll instruct him to sit tight until it blows over, which, given the corporate control of our media, shouldn’t be more then a week or two.

Again, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong…

malaise

(269,159 posts)
24. We have an old proverb here from way back to the days of enamel buckets
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:57 PM
Apr 2023

‘Every day carry bucket go a well, one day di bucket bottom must drop out”.
The last straw is nigh for Uncle Thomas. 😀😀😀

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
4. This wasn't a minor gift from a close friend.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:41 AM
Apr 2023

This was things like a $500,000 trip to Indonesia on private jets and yachts with personal chefs, and long stays at luxury, exclusive resorts with members of the Federalist society.

It's another nail in the coffin of American Democracy that Thomas isn't forced to resign or facing criminal consequences.

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
5. OK, so Clarence Thomas, a sitting Associate Justice on the United States
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:44 AM
Apr 2023

Supreme Court, wants us to believe that just asking his "peers" was sufficient advice. He didn't do his own research to confirm.

Sure. And does that mean that he also doesn't check the work of his law clerks for every brief submitted to the USSC? He trusts their due diligence?

Thomas has been a graduate of Yale Law School, an attorney, worked under Reagan's EEOC, was an associate justice on the D.C. Court of Appeals as well.

And he does shotty research for something as imperative as receiving gifts while on the Bench?

I'm not buying it.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
10. So a Supreme Court Justice needs a lawyer or someone to guide him in these basics of ethics?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:50 AM
Apr 2023

He couldn't figure this out for himself?

Basically, he's admitting he isn't up to the job.
Of course, Anita Hill told us that in 1991.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
11. Hopefully someone with authority will give him a choice: resign or we go after both you & Ginny.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:51 AM
Apr 2023

on edit: Actually I'd like them to go after both of them, but I doubt that would ever happen.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
12. Such a liar
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:51 AM
Apr 2023

He damn well knew he was taking bribes and didn't care. He wasn't violating tax code but he was violating the constitution.

Did he really think taking bribes from filthy rich greedy men was a good look?

He said well I know it's wrong but what are they going to do about it? Nothing. So, I'll do it until they scream then claim I didn't know. It worked when his wife was accepting bribes on his behalf.

Directly from the constitution:
"The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour,"

This is NOT good behavior. Anyone with common sense would have known. Any one can see it's a bribe nothing more or less.

Polybius

(15,481 posts)
20. It's possible that Scalia and maybe even Rehnquist told him that advice
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:10 PM
Apr 2023

Scalia openly hung out with doners. Maybe Rehnquist just didn't get caught.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Is ignorance of the law now an excuse?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:02 PM
Apr 2023

Bog standard Republican responses to bad news:

1. I haven't seen what so-and-so said. "Oh, here it is on my phone." I don't have my glasses, so I can't read that.

2. Someone (not saying who) told me what I was doing was copacetic. "Aren't you a lawyer yourself?" [Silence]

3. I can't comment on an ongoing investigation. "Haven't you subpoenaed the prosecuting attorney?" That's different.

And so on, with the fearless bulldogs of the Fourth Estate swallowing every last ounce of bullshit as if it were proffered in good faith.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
31. If All Your Friends
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:49 PM
Apr 2023

are lawyers from Ivy schools holding top jobs in this country, I would say go for it.

Irish_Dem

(47,406 posts)
32. Ordinary Americans know the law and ethics more than Ivy League lawyers.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:53 PM
Apr 2023

And certainly more that Supreme Court justices.
Sad, isn't it.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
30. Isn't This
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:48 PM
Apr 2023

dumb f*** supposed to be a lawyer? And a federal employee long before he was on the Court? Federal employees are not allowed to accept gifts.

Irish_Dem

(47,406 posts)
33. For those who make the rules, there are no rules.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:54 PM
Apr 2023

These idiots know the law, they just don't follow it.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
34. I don't think that sleazy guy really was asking about the law as written,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 02:03 PM
Apr 2023

He was asking what the practice was for other justices. And they might have had an interpretation that might have involved a dinner. Maybe because of Scalia's excessive acceptance of gifts, Thomas took it beyond that exponentially.

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