Who had "revenge toll roads" on their 2023 Bingo Card?

[303squadron]

In his fight with Disney Desatan now wants to enact tolls on roads leading into Disney World.

Freedom! Just like our founding fathers envisioned it.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/os-ne-desantis-disney-void-reedy-creek-deal-20230407-5edgygdxb5hytdzyxztwxovzwa-story.html

[Meadowoak]

1. Fuck Florida, too many better places to spend my liberal dollars

That will appreciate them.

[Initech]

3. I'm kind of in a pickle.

Because I need to go to Tampa some time in the next year - year and a half to visit my relatives there. But believe me, they are both liberal and hate DeSatan.

[Meadowoak]

4. I have family in Tampa also, wingnuts, last time they visited me, I couldn't wait for them to leave.

[Initech]

9. Your decision is pretty obvious then!

My cousins in Tampa both have a very long liberal history and they're both in their 80s. They've been wanting us to come for a while now (last time I saw them was at my brother's wedding which was many years ago now). I was going to try to visit them when I'm in New Orleans in a couple of weeks, but I couldn't find a flight that worked out. So it will either be later this year or early next year.

[Irish_Dem]

29. Go visit your relatives. Don't let DeSatan to ruin your visit.

Your relatives are at an age where you aren't going to have many opportunities left to see them.

[Initech]

32. And that's exactly why the visit.

Because we definitely want to see them while we still can. But like I said in my earlier post right now it's going to be either later this year or early next year because of schedules, flights, etc.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Yes good.

[Traildogbob]

50. Take all the

Food and alcohol the whole family will need during your visit. From a blue state. Fill up gas takes at the state line coming and going. Bring all your trash from a previous week from home to dump there.
Like the Certification Class for Wilderness visits I taught to my Natural Resources college students. “Leave No Trace”. Not a penny. My dad just died in January, lived in Augusta. I will never step foot in that state again. Thick with trump MAGA assholes. My brother will need to come to me.
Damn I feel bad for the hood people in Florida. But we got some real shit going down here in North Carolina. Here in the western part of our State, 50 percent of vehicle tags are Florida.
Had to go to NCDMV to renew my tags last a few weeks ago. For sale on the wall behind the workers where they sell all kinds of tags for the front of vehicles like, Veteran, College logos, In God We Trust (🤮🤮🤮 etc, they sell a tag that looks like a typical Florida tag, but days “Native” on it. Why?? WTF, who up here gives a damn if you are native Floridiot. Even MAGA’s up here hate Floridians. Florida tags up here are like Bumper stickers against guns in Texas.

[MLAA]

30. Sooner rather than later given they are in their 80s.

Enjoy your visit!

[Initech]

33. Yeah we won't let DeSatan ruin our visit!

[Pacifist Patriot]

15. There are plenty of liberals here chafing under the fascist yoke.

[CaptainTruth]

31. Yep, & fighting DeFascist every way I can.

[Tommy Carcetti]

17. We won't eat you.

I promise.

[Chakaconcarne]

21. Just try and limit the amount of money you spend there...

about all you can do if going there is a given.

[Fla Dem]

69. Believe me, you are visiting your relative will be the nicest thing you could ever do for them.

As a former Northeastern Democrat, lifelong liberal, there is no better gift you can give them than spending a few days with them trashing Trump, SC Judge Thomas, all the idiots on FOX News, Don Jr and Eric, and above all, Ron DeSpot Desantis.

I have friends here who I can thankfully go out with to dinner / lunch, play 9 holes of golf or go to a movie where I DO NOT have to be careful about what I say.

There are others, who yes I am friends with, but we very carefully avoid any discussion that even borders on politics. So even talking about how much 1 lb of hamburger costs can start an argument on why prices are so high.

These are friends I have known for over 20 years. Politics generally were never an issue until Trump came on the scene. We disagreed on some issues, but never with venom. Are they rabid MAGA idiots? No, but there is an appeal I just can't put my finger on. Basically, everything wrong in the US is Biden / Democrats fault, while Trump and his ilk and the Republicans are not to blame for anything. Useless to try and change their minds.

So when I have family or friends come to visit it is a breath of fresh air where we can have reasonable discussions about current events, and yes politics. If we disagree on something we discuss it like adults and don't throw a tantrum like children. So I'm sure they you'll be welcomed with open arms.

When I moved here, 23 years ago, Florida had a unbroken string of Democratic governors since before 1900 and for the 1st time over 100 years Florida elected a Republican Governor (Jeb Bush 1999) and it's been all downhill ever since.

Thank God for DU, it's been my lifeline to sanity since 2001.

[Initech]

75. Certainly true!

[calimary]

52. I wish Disney would do likewise.

I bet every state in the union would take a cash cow like that. And the east coast likely has other appealing locations.

Hey Ronnie-boy, how’d you like to kiss that cash cow and ALL those jobs goodbye? What would your voters think if Florida suddenly lost that big an employer?

[Takket]

73. moving Disneyworld is financially impossible. even for Disney

politicians come and go. Disney isn't going anywhere

[Initech]

2. Desantis is such a fucking asshole.

[2naSalit]

6. +1

I despise him with the intensity of a thousand suns.

[Pacifist Patriot]

16. at a minimum!

[Initech]

20. Him, Marjorie Greene, and Trump are three of the worst people in this country.

[ananda]

41. I despise the Texas Reeps worse, the trifecta of evil:

Greg Abbott, Dan Patrick, and Ken Paxton.

[Ilsa]

55. There must be a special circle in Hell for these people. nt

[Cha]

60. Yes, I take his Filthy Fascism

personally bc I have family in Gainesville and St Pete whom I love dearly.. they and all Dema Deserve Exponentially BETTER Than deSTUPID SADIST for their Governor of Florida.

[Coventina]

5. Remind me: How'd a similar tactic work out for Chris Christie?

[NJCher]

71. LOL

He's still trying to crawl back into the political game.

To people I know and talk to, it's like he never existed.

When he was in office and we were doing teacher contract negotiations, we were always running into some snag caused by his fiddling around with PERC rules. Now, however, most of those impediments have been removed and it's smooth sailing on the contracts. Not as much as we'd like but some fairly decent increases.

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Regarding the toll increases, he should just go home and die already. Disney will find a way to make him the fool again.

[Fullduplexxx]

7. the tantrums of MEATBALL, the child king.

[scarletlib]

8. Wow. Really going to hurt Disney.

Only the locals and tourists will be paying these tolls. Tolls won’t slow down visitors to Disney.

[Meadowoak]

11. They don't even realize that sticking it to the libs, burns them

Even worse. Meanwhile, some fat cat will be charging them everyday for the privilege of driving to work. So long as they think they are sticking the libs.

[Pacifist Patriot]

14. To add a little bizarreness to the mix, several of the main roads to Disney are already toll roads!

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528 and 417 ring any bells for the Fascist Fuckwad?

[Haggard Celine]

44. I thought I remembered toll roads down there.

I haven't been to Florida, except the panhandle, for about 30 years. But even back then there were toll roads down there. They'll shoot themselves in the foot just to stick it to liberals. People on vacation have extra money to spend, but locals driving back and forth to work have less to spend. They aren't going to hurt Disney. Disney raised their prices years ago because the parks were so crowded. But that still didn't stop the tourists. If they want to really hurt Florida, they could shut the parks down. The whole state would be harmed by that, and Florida would lose all that tax money. If I were CEO of Disney, I'd be telling DeSantis that he needs to shut his fucking mouth unless he wants to be remembered as the guy who ran Disney out of the state.

[dchill]

56. Tolls are how they avoid state income taxes.

That and high sales tax. Owning libs is quite expensive. And predictably regressive.

[Pacifist Patriot]

58. Not really. Tourists are how we avoid state income taxes.

The toll money is reinvested into the roadways. And yes, state income taxes do pay for that in other states, but there are also states with state income taxes that also have toll roads. Massachusetts springs to mind.

The tourist dollars are the biggest contributor to not having state income tax in Florida.

[ShazzieB]

72. We have toll roads in Illinois, too, along with a state income tax

Most of the tollways are in the Chicago metro area, with a couple (?) that extend further out. And we have had a state income tax for decades.

[scarletlib]

49. That is true because JEB privatized the toll roads while he was in office.

[SpamWyzer]

10. I have to call him

Dumb Santis. Imposing a new tax on the people who have just paid hundreds or thousands of dollars to go to "The Happiest Place on Earth" in order to punish Disney for outsmarting you is hardly a brilliant election or re-election strategy. Pukes pledged "no new taxes"...Dumb Santis has just broken the cardinal rule of puke politics. He will NEVER be the GQP choice for (failed) President. The voters will respond to his toll road with a caravan of votes for the other guy...Pres. Joe Biden #47. GOTV.

[Cha]

66. One thing.. deStupid can't run again for Gov

bc of term limits unless the Florida jackboots change that law.

But hopefully it will mess up his Nazi paved road to our WH.

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. Gee, it's almost like he has no idea what butters the bread in his state.

[Meadowoak]

18. If us liberals boycotted Florida, half their revenue would dry up overnight.

Not only Disney, but all the hotels, motels, restaurants, water parks etc. They would be begging us to visit Florida and spend our democrat money there within a month.

[Pacifist Patriot]

22. It would hurt me as a local and I say "go for it!"

I would love to see tourist dollars dry right up and find out how much the electorate likes their Floridian Fuhrer then.

[Meadowoak]

25. We should boycott for a month, just long enough to teach Duh-Santis a hard lesson.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Disney should suspend operations there for 6 months and

see how DeSantis likes the loss of tourism and revenue.

[Meadowoak]

19. Yep

[TheBlackAdder]

28. They don't even have to close, just sell 50% less tickets, with preference to in-park stays.

.

Disney will get their room money, less in admission, food and concessions.

They could boost the price a bit on the room rates and other amenities.


The park would be less crowded, like it is in the Spring, before Summer season hits.

They would have less waste, require less staff and it would be more enjoyable.

In-State and commuters would suffer, including anyone staying in off-park lodging and eating off-park.
Less people would bring their own food in from the local Walmart and supermarkets too, helping to offset food sales.

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[A HERETIC I AM]

70. OR.......

They should run a huge promotion for Florida residents (they do it regularly) but on a much bigger scale than usual. Slash ticket prices and hotel rates for all state residents. Flood the place with Florida voters basically, and do it AFTER Ronnie DeathSentence does whatever he is going to do.

Let several hundred thousand (or millions of) Florida voters pay his stupid tolls and see how far that gets him.

Florida already has more miles of toll roads than any other state in the country and they want to build more!

Sooner or later people are going to say enough. He is catering to the old blue hairs in The Villages, Boca Raton and Naples. The rest of us see right through him and wont put up with this bullshit. It’s clear to anyone paying attention that he is a tiny little man with skin like rice paper and a fragile ego that rivals Trumpy’s. I think he will wear out his welcome in this state pretty soon.

[Meadowoak]

23. When I lived in Florida in the 80s, I worked in a restaurant waiting tables.

Everyone used to say it was famine or feast in Florida, famine during off season, feast during season, when all the vacationers and snowbirds came from all the blue states.

[TheBlackAdder]

27. Shut down for 6 months like they do to oil refineries to perform 'maintenance' and keep prices high.

[bluestarone]

54. Good idea!

Motels and Hotels and Restaurants would be SCREAMING, i bet!

[Takket]

74. that would only hurt Disney financially and the great many liberal cast members they have

[TheBlackAdder]

24. Ooo.. I did! I did! Waiting on Sewage and Power Grid Surcharges to complete my row.

[Freethinker65]

26. So screwing families and surrounding non-Disney tourist traps of tourist spending money?

Been to Disney three times if my life and never enjoyed it myself, but even I know Disney IS the destination drawing tourists to Orlando. Tourists will continue to pay admission fees and spend money on food and souvenirs at Disney. They will just now have less in their budget for activities off the Disney campus.

Really stupid move by DeSantis.

[Meadowoak]

36. I'm going to vacation in California this year, I'll spend my money where it is appreciated.

[ProfessorGAC]

35. So Let Me Get This Straight

People spending 3 grand on a vacation are going to be dissuaded from going to Disneyworld because of a highway toll that cause them a few extra bucks?
Thus, the toll doesn't really hurt Disney.
This guy is a moron.

[Meadowoak]

37. Yeah, that'll really hurt the libs.

[ProfessorGAC]

40. Exactly

This won't do anything except give political ammunition to hit the R leaning independents who can now be told he raised taxes.
Dumb!

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. Marginally more geniusier than TFG's geniusing.

[ProfessorGAC]

61. Well Done!

I don't know, though. Does revenge that doesn't extract vengeance even count?

[Irish_Dem]

38. Fascists like to burn everything down to win.

They destroy everything in sight to get their way.

But nothing is ever enough.

Putin is the richest man in the world, it's not enough.
Hitler had most of Europe, and it wasn't enough.

They also enjoy the suffering and damage they cause.
They get off on it.

[Aviation Pro]

42. So, fuck up I-4 even further?

Smooth move Guv. Man Bewbs.

[GuppyGal]

43. Glad to know this will screw only tourists and not residents of the state....like WTF am I

missing here?? LOL

[republianmushroom]

45. Was any federal monies used to construct or maintain those roads.

If so DeSantis can go pound sand.

[Roy Rolling]

46. Ha ha ha

Disney has operated in Florida for almost 50 years. They will be there long after DeSatan crawls back to the underworld.

This is a battle for the ages.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

47. Too bad it would be too expensive to uproot D-world and move it to Georgia.

There was a time when Florida was an inviting place for tourists. No more.

Make Florida Florida Again.

[Bristlecone]

48. Lol. Such a petty, shitty little man.

[Chili Pepper]

51. DeSantis is turning out to be one of the biggest Snowflakes around

He was thoroughly embarrassed when Disney outplayed him. Now, like a little child, he's got to find some way get revenge on his smarter adversary.

Good luck with that. He'll only find himself digging a deeper hole that he may not be able to get out of. All because of his pride!

[Marius25]

53. Disney should seriously consider starting to move out of Florida

I know logistically it's nearly impossible with so much property, but this isn't going to end even if DeSantis is gone. The entire state is bad for business.

[jmowreader]

63. There are problems beyond logistics here

You know the old real estate mantra of “location, location, location.” Well…it turns out that location is perfect for Disney - it’s exactly two days’ drive from New York. (The exact halfway point between the two cities is a welding supply store in Fayetteville, NC.)

[hay rick]

57. At this rate, DeSantis will be giving petty tyrants a bad name. nt

[jmowreader]

62. Uh-huh

“We’re going to enact tolls on the roads leading to Disney to discourage people from going to Disney!”

Dude, have you seen what a Disney ticket costs? You can get into the Daytona 500 cheaper, and that’s one of the most expensive tickets in auto racing. It’s also a one-day event and A LOT of Disney-goers spend several days at the parks. A toll on the roads leading to Disney is basically a rounding error for someone who’s bringing a family of four to the park. And it makes DeSantis look like a petulant child.

[IronLionZion]

64. Florida is a banana republic, a failed state

and their idiot governor is picking a fight with a company that is very popular with families across the US as he runs for president. This could backfire badly on him. With Trump on trial and DeathSentence hating children, there's not much left for that party.

[Warpy]

65. What a petty little troll!

I think Disney will win that one easily since he's not going to be charging for access to any of Florida's other attractions.

One thing to consider, all this stuff is popular in Florida, Disney is not well liked. Their prices are too high for most people and their wages are far too low. While it looks like a stupid fight to pick from out of state, it is increasing his popularity in state, although it stupidly fails to address the problems of high prices and low wages.

[NullTuples]

67. Taxing the public for visiting a popular business...not your GrandPa's Republican Party

[Katcat]

68. Great idea dumbass

When you put up the toll roads people will either bypass them or stay away from Disney. And while you might think that’s great, let’s see how FL manages without tourist dollars!