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bif

(22,747 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:44 PM Apr 2023

Anyone else apprehensive around crowds these days?

Maybe it was the pandemic that did it to me. But I just don't feel as comfortable around crowds as I used to. Yesterday I had to work at the Tiger's Opening Day. It was a huge crowd, as you'd expect. Lot's of drunks. And I just felt a little on edge the whole time. I was outdoors, so there was little chance of catching anything. Maybe this is the new normal for me. Thoughts?

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Anyone else apprehensive around crowds these days? (Original Post) bif Apr 2023 OP
Absolutely. n/t LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #1
Same here... Large crowds are soft targets for wackos with guns. Also the covid thing... mitch96 Apr 2023 #13
Me! (raising hand) Diamond_Dog Apr 2023 #2
Yes gun violence PTSD. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #8
+1... Also if in a venue face the entrance and see what's coming your way... mitch96 Apr 2023 #14
The GOP is deliberately creating a hostile, dangerous environment. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #16
A sad comment I heard.. "They ban books, They ban Drag, kids are still in body bags".. horrible mitch96 Apr 2023 #21
I heard that chant too. Should be standard at all protests now. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #23
Protests about teenagers in body bags ended the Viet Nam war. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #24
I feel the same way. It is Covid PTSD. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #3
Yes Butterflylady Apr 2023 #4
Very apprehensive RussBLib Apr 2023 #5
I have since 2016. People became rude and hateful almost overnight. Meadowoak Apr 2023 #6
I've never been comfortable in crowds. Now they produce full on panic attacks. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2023 #7
I hear you. I once loved being an anonymous part of large open-air events: fairs, festivals, Backseat Driver Apr 2023 #9
No moreso than previously sarisataka Apr 2023 #10
Went to a concert by one of my favorite artists a couple years ago. Midnight Writer Apr 2023 #11
Yeah, mostly because the general public annoys the shit out of me.... Chakaconcarne Apr 2023 #12
I've never been a fan of crowds. davsand Apr 2023 #15
Yes, I am wendyb-NC Apr 2023 #17
No. maxsolomon Apr 2023 #18
Yes but it's because of guns,guns,guns everywhere scarletlib Apr 2023 #19
Nope brooklynite Apr 2023 #20
No. I'm vaccinated and up to date. I went to a fish swap a few weeks ago and GuppyGal Apr 2023 #22
No. Not as fun, though, just knowing how many "good people" voted for tRump Hortensis Apr 2023 #25
I've seen how quickly a crowd can turn into a mob, Buns_of_Fire Apr 2023 #26
I regularly go to concerts and sporting events. Initech Apr 2023 #27
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #28
Nothing new for me, I've hated crowds since my mid 20s Amishman Apr 2023 #29
During Covid got used to leaving my house only once every five days. Am a solitary person so allegorical oracle Apr 2023 #30
Nice to know I'm not the only one! bif Apr 2023 #31
Yes but not for Covid, crowds make me nervous because GUNZ. nt Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #32
I've always been on edge in crowds ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #33

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
13. Same here... Large crowds are soft targets for wackos with guns. Also the covid thing...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:08 PM
Apr 2023

I'm kind of a loaner anyway so it just makes sense to me...
m

Diamond_Dog

(32,066 posts)
2. Me! (raising hand)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:49 PM
Apr 2023

Not so much Covid anymore (although I still avoid indoor crowds, well, mainly theatres)

Now I’m thinking of gun violence….

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
14. +1... Also if in a venue face the entrance and see what's coming your way...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:10 PM
Apr 2023

It's a shame we have to be this way but it's survival techniques and common sense..
m

Irish_Dem

(47,410 posts)
16. The GOP is deliberately creating a hostile, dangerous environment.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:13 PM
Apr 2023

A frighted population is a docile, compliant one.

Putin is also thrilled, showing the world what a foolish, dangerous place the US is.
How democracy is a failure.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
21. A sad comment I heard.. "They ban books, They ban Drag, kids are still in body bags".. horrible
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:34 PM
Apr 2023

image in my mind but gets to the point..The gun lobbies don't care about your kids lives..
Like Carlin said. Protect them till they are born then fuck'em...
It's all about the money and power. To them, everything else is rubbish...
m

Irish_Dem

(47,410 posts)
3. I feel the same way. It is Covid PTSD.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:49 PM
Apr 2023

I was in Krogers talking to a clerk the other day and she was sneezing and blowing her nose.
I became anxious.

It is a very legitimate PTSD because Covid is life threatening.

RussBLib

(9,036 posts)
5. Very apprehensive
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:50 PM
Apr 2023

Not to mention COVID is still out there and killing lots of people, but crowds also attract shooters. All it takes is one gunshot and a crowd of people can get scared and stampede, killing innocent people.

Backseat Driver

(4,399 posts)
9. I hear you. I once loved being an anonymous part of large open-air events: fairs, festivals,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:58 PM
Apr 2023

sports spectator, holiday celebrations or parades, even shopping center window shopping...Now I last about 10 minutes before I want to go home...get-in; get out shopping. I even wonder about attending a small live concert at our burb's new amphitheater; TPTB instituted DORA events and then extended that "amenity" to all year, noon to 9PM - street drinking while no-rules CCW packing?

DORA - stands for Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area. You can now purchase an alcoholic beverage to-go, served in a special DORA cup from participating locations, and enjoy a beverage within the DORA boundaries as you head to a game or event.

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
11. Went to a concert by one of my favorite artists a couple years ago.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:02 PM
Apr 2023

There was a group of folks and the men were wearing holsters with pistols. They were drinking lots of beer and at one point a couple of them took their guns from their holsters and were handing them to each other, showing them off. All this in a crowded auditorium.

I'm sure they were "good guys with guns" there to protect us all. What could go wrong?

davsand

(13,421 posts)
15. I've never been a fan of crowds.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:12 PM
Apr 2023

However, I do feel even more anxiety now. Between the gun crazies, the "ammosexuals" fantasizing about being a "good guy with a gun" and any challenges to my weakened immune system, I have a definite fear whenever I go any place where there will be a bunch of folks. We all just came out of an extended period of being told to be afraid of anybody lest they give us a killer disease or else gun us down. I don't think that's gonna fade for me anytime soon.

It's become my new normal.



Laura

wendyb-NC

(3,330 posts)
17. Yes, I am
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:28 PM
Apr 2023

I avoid them as much as possible. It's not a good feeling for me to be in a crowded environment. I get hyper alert, and my anxiety
gets elevated.

I just do not feel comfortable. I wear an N-95 mask in crowded indoor spaces, along with, going to places like Walmart, as the doors open on Sunday morning. Outdoors, I don't wear a mask the whole time.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
18. No.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:29 PM
Apr 2023

I went to outdoor sporting events unmasked during the Pandemic (while my wife masked the whole time). I didn't catch Covid.

You should keep going until your subconscious mind relaxes and realizes there is no proximal threat. That is how I have overcome a fear of heights - repeated exposure.

brooklynite

(94,729 posts)
20. Nope
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:33 PM
Apr 2023

Just flew to and from Istanbul. Spent two weeks traveling with a group. Everyone was vaccinated.

I'll wear a mask on the subway but not in most other locations.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
22. No. I'm vaccinated and up to date. I went to a fish swap a few weeks ago and
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:37 PM
Apr 2023

I don't even think about it anymore.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. No. Not as fun, though, just knowing how many "good people" voted for tRump
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:42 PM
Apr 2023

to be able to resume and expand his (their) crimes against humanity. Not that they think of themselves that way at all, of course, but they've become too potentially dangerous for me not to.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,196 posts)
26. I've seen how quickly a crowd can turn into a mob,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:45 PM
Apr 2023

so I've never liked being in a crowd. I like it even less these days.

Initech

(100,103 posts)
27. I regularly go to concerts and sporting events.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:53 PM
Apr 2023

Doesn't bother me at all. I was at a music festival last weekend with my brother, who's in emergency medicine, and I don't think COVID or anything else came up once in conversation during the whole weekend.

H2O Man

(73,616 posts)
28. Recommended.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:57 PM
Apr 2023

I am, but to be honest, I always have been. As a young man, I was only comfortable with crowds when I was in the boxing ring. I was happy to be fighting in front of 5,000 people ..... but would have been uncomfortable sitting in that crowd. These days, I'm a hermit.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
29. Nothing new for me, I've hated crowds since my mid 20s
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:59 PM
Apr 2023

Perfectly happy to live in the woods in the middle of nowhere, and work from home as much as possible.

Crowds and cities are not for me; ugly stinky, noisy places.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
30. During Covid got used to leaving my house only once every five days. Am a solitary person so
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 02:09 PM
Apr 2023

it wasn't that difficult. Plus, it saved gas, car wear and tear. Continue this practice. But have noticed I get more antsy about going to big box stores since all the shootings have occurred. Went to a Walmart a few weeks ago and seemed to look at other shoppers more closely than before. Makes me feel so sorry for what school kids and teachers must go through.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
33. I've always been on edge in crowds
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 12:03 AM
Apr 2023

I have pretty severe claustrophobia to begin with, compounded by having asthma and allergies. So I've always worried about anything that threatens my air supply. Bodies piled in too close to me has always made me panic about having enough air.

But it got really bad when my thyroid went bonkers. By the time I (finally) got diagnosed with thyroid disease, mine was so huge it took around 4 hours to remove. It was everywhere, all the way around my neck up to my jawline, over my shoulder blades and down my chest in front to almost the bottom of my sternum.

Gee, I wonder why I was constantly out of breath...

Anyway, all those years of my out-of-control thyroid making it hard for me to breathe has made me permanently terrified about anything that threatens my access to air. That includes swimming, elevators, MRIs, and even my head under a blanket. Since my thyroid problem, I'm even more terrified of crowds than I was before.

COVID doesn't help there, either.

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